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Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
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Posted - 2014.08.25 04:36:00 -
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NO THIS IS NOT AN 'EvE IS DYING' THREAD! I BELIEVE THAT EvE IS VARY MUCH ALIVE ATM!
I hope that EvE will last many more years, but all good things must come to an end at some point whether it's because the servers will shut down or because too few people will play EvE as it becomes unpopular.
So my question is, how many years do you think that EvE will last? "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.08.25 04:36:00 -
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I can tell you how long I think this thread will last? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2014.08.25 04:40:00 -
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Everytime someone says EVE is Dying, a player biomasses. You can do the math from there, Q.Q
Think of the players! Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Scipio Artelius: I find your continued optimism for the outcome of the CSM vote endearing |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.08.25 04:47:00 -
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Its already dead apparently |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.08.25 05:05:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Its already dead apparently
It's just twitching on the ground right now. No amount of bullets and insults shouted at the dying body of EVE will kill it as it is right now. You can see the suffering and pain in EVE's eyes as it pleads you to let it finally die but alas the bittervets injected even more moon goo and renter ISK into EVE just to see EVE squirm even harder as it edges between Dying and still functioning. Then you have the newbies that give EVE lots of sustenance and denies it from dying in the form of forum tears on how EVE should be and having EVE see their armor tanked autocannon moa wrecks with speed rigs.
Also once or twice a year the bittervets crush EVE's nodes under their combined weight as they drag as much bittervets and newbies into sov wars then take time to rest. But alas EVE has no reprieve as soon as the sov war ends it'll be fed even more tears in the form of ignorant highsec carebears that demand another sov war and thus prolonging EVE's state between Dying and just barely alive.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves for letting a game such as EVE suffer. Just let it die already. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.08.25 05:08:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Its already dead apparently
It's probably pining for the fjords.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
90
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Posted - 2014.08.25 05:17:00 -
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It will last a very long time. Eve has a very anemic growth rate but an incredibly huge retention rate and a significant rate of player return. Currently, economically it's already somewhat stalled out, yet we receive a fairly decent pace of improvement and expansion. In the coming years there will be some stuff competition with Elite, Star Citizen, etc. this could result in some significant reduction in players, yet Eve will continue as a niche game. People often remember fondly 'the good ole days' but back then the player base was significantly smaller. A lot of the game's development happened with a smaller player base and less money.
Also, while competition will stiffen things up, none of the other games are attempting to match what has always made Eve unique: CCP supports the player base acting like total psychopaths. Nowhere will you ever be able to screw someone over like in Eve. Eve will always be unique, so SOMEBODY will always be playing it.
Not to mention, Eve does have some pretty intense stuff in store. Player built star gates will make the sandbox infinite in shape. And Valkyrie and Legion and potential integration of these games will ensure that Eve supplies an incredible range of play that others will be hard to match. There's a good chance that Eve will return to the growth rate of the last few years or exceed it.
No worries. Eve will be very very hard to kill. The game is better than it ever has been but is in a bit of a rough patch for various reasons and people get scared about new games coming out and all, but Eve actually shutting down is pretty inconceivable. It's got another decade in it easy. |
corebloodbrothers
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
631
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Posted - 2014.08.25 07:04:00 -
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With the subscription we pay comes the right to complain and ***** about it. And even more, people thta *****, whine and moan genuinly care in general, why else would you bother.
I have played many games, but never did a game captivate me too the extend and lenght i decided to out time as a csm in. Eve is in many ways still unique and i dont see any rival that, except promises and vague ideas. The niche thing works for eve, and i woudl happely bralw it out for years with the same players in an ever changing environment, even the current drop in big null is an intresting way to see what people will do, do they have the creativity or look at ccp. Ofc ccp is busy as well there.
So its both love and uniqueness for me personally that drive eve, i couodnt imagine doing something else, so this next decade, yeah, looking forward too it, hope and despair, closely tied |
Mira Robinson
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Posted - 2014.08.25 07:32:00 -
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This is always an interesting debate.
Eve was my very first MMO. I have tried others, and there is an undeniable uniqueness to New Eden. It's also home to one of the most dedicated communities I have ever seen in my 20 years of gaming.
However, for most of it's life, Eve has had very, very little in the way of competition. The games that were thought to pose a threat to Eve ended up sputtering and losing steam (I speak of Star Trek Online and The Old Republic. I no longer play STO, but I remain subbed to TOR, and I believe it brought in more revenue than Eve last year. It was a top ten chart, SWTOR was #4 and Eve was #6.)
However, competition just means better things for the players, so every month, every quarter, I anticipate more games stepping up to compete for a piece of Eve's pie. No one can deny the piles of money Star Citizen has raised, and there will no doubt be others. I continue to look forward to a space-based sci-fi MMO that can cater to the "carebear" portion of the playerbase (never cared for that term), because this community is very hostile towards people of that playstyle, and there should be a space-based game that can cater to them.
Another interesting way to look at is where will the players go if Eve does go bottom up. Currently, no other MMO allows what Eve does (scamming, borderline griefing, open PVP on a single server cluster). As such, Eve contains, you guessed it, what many other communities view as "belligerent undesirables". Currently, the cutthroat gameplay they crave cannot be had anywhere else.
There is no doubt in my mind that the sub money from Eve keeps CCP's office electricity on. I'd love to see the universe expand, and I'm a huge fan of the lore, which can be expanded so much more. But is CCP a one trick pony with Eve? Or can they eventually make another game that can last over a decade?
Time will tell. Earlier today, the Dixon Mining Guild and the Butz Manufacturing Corporation formed a coalition.
It's hard to tell if there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the Dixon-Butz Alliance. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
5502
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Posted - 2014.08.25 07:37:00 -
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As long as a piece of string. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4272
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Posted - 2014.08.25 08:05:00 -
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Hopefully till October, when my subs run out. |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.25 08:27:00 -
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In 5.5 billion years when the sun expands and the earth gets cooked. Then we celebrate the release of Eve Online 2 in the Andromeda galaxy. |
Fr3akwave
Shattered Sword
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Posted - 2014.08.25 08:40:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:NO THIS IS NOT AN 'EvE ... EvE ... EvE ... EvE ... EvE ...
You put so much effort into the capitalization of "EVE", yet, if you look at the top left of your forum where you see a big "EVE" logo, do you notice that the V is in fact bigger than the Es?
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Quant Predictorian
Futarchist Singularitists
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Posted - 2014.08.25 08:54:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote: all good things must come to an end at some point
EVE is not a good thing. EVE just like RL is a good thing for people who play and live with it, and of course people die, but RL (lets call it Multiverse1) goes no matter who dies and born. It is same for EVE (multiverse 2), it doesn't care who log-in the server and live in the multiverse2. Do you think multiverse1 will come to an end at some point? I don't think so. Just inhabitants come and go. That's it.
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:07:00 -
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20 - 30 years, at least. |
Marc Durant
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:17:00 -
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Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen are actually good for EVE, those are carebear heaven PVE games (don't fall for the "we're fierce PVP space sims" thing, they're not) so tons of bears will flock there and new players of that type will go there first. That means that CCP will (have to) focus more on PVP related content to keep and enhance its niche; less super safe silliness, reverting changes that have been happening for years to make it more mainstream (or at least stopping the inevitableness of it).
It also makes EVE less of a candidate to be taken over by a "larger entity" (EA). It's win-win really. Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:22:00 -
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All MMOGs have a period of expansion, followed immediately by a period of inexorable decline.
EVE's been on a (somewhat volatile) plateau for years.
All games dwindle to few or no players eventually, everything comes to and end.
But with the continuing reworks of old mechanics/code/graphics/etc, "EVE 1" is arguably already ended and we're playing "EVE 2".
In summary I'd give this thread potato out of hammock. [witty image] - Stream |
Jegrey Dozer
Ruatha Holdings
32
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:23:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I can tell you how long I think this thread will last?
+1 for creativity and not just saying "IB4L"
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:24:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen are actually good for EVE, those are carebear heaven PVE games (don't fall for the "we're fierce PVP space sims" thing, they're not) so tons of bears will flock there and new players of that type will go there first. That means that CCP will (have to) focus more on PVP related content to keep and enhance its niche; less super safe silliness, reverting changes that have been happening for years to make it more mainstream (or at least stopping the inevitableness of it).
It also makes EVE less of a candidate to be taken over by a "larger entity" (EA). It's win-win really. Let me guess, you're a pvper. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1524
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:53:00 -
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At least another 5 years. Epic Space Cat |
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Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:54:00 -
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Forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever *GêP
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Grainsalt
6-10s Northern Associates.
206
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Posted - 2014.08.25 12:05:00 -
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Eve will last until... |
Alastair Ormand
Running With Scissors. Apocalypse Now.
76
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Posted - 2014.08.25 12:11:00 -
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Alas, the servers will someday shut down and this Universe will come to an end and the cold dead void of New Eden will be no more. Maybe the data will be kept so that one day we can look back and see the destruction that was wrought and the memories that we made.
Man. Got a little nostalgic there. Sorry guys. Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7762
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Posted - 2014.08.25 12:18:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:In 5.5 billion years when the sun expands and the earth gets cooked. Then we celebrate the release of Eve Online 2 in the Andromeda galaxy.
I predict that this will happen. I also predict that Ishtars will still be OP.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7762
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Posted - 2014.08.25 12:32:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen are actually good for EVE, those are carebear heaven PVE games (don't fall for the "we're fierce PVP space sims" thing, they're not) so tons of bears will flock there and new players of that type will go there first. That means that CCP will (have to) focus more on PVP related content to keep and enhance its niche; less super safe silliness, reverting changes that have been happening for years to make it more mainstream (or at least stopping the inevitableness of it).
It also makes EVE less of a candidate to be taken over by a "larger entity" (EA). It's win-win really.
Those games will never have any impact on EVE, in the exact same way that NO game has had an impact on EVE in the last 11 years (despite sooooo many predictions that they would). Not even for the carebears.
You see, our 'carebears' complain loudly about the freedom everyone else has (freedom to screw with their carebearing), they lobby CCP for more safety, they crap up both forum and blog with their cries. Then another MMO comes out that caters EXACTLY to what they say they want (protection from 'griefers', 'good/immersive pve', walking around, 'procedural generation', a less stringent 'death penalty' etc etc etc). They go there and play and are happy for 5 minutes.
Then they realize that they aren't having fun, because now their are no 'griefers' against which they can measure themselves and give themselves a false sense of 'I'm better than those gankers because I'm nice to people in a spaceship game' superiority. Without the people they claim to hate and want to get away from, they are lost and have no reason to post in threadnaughts or blog incessantly about how terrible people are.
Point blank, those carebears need EVE way more than EVE needs their subscription.
So while they will always LOUDLY depart EVE, they will of course come back (much more quietly), not because EVE is a great game (it is), but because EVE exposes something about themselves that they both hate and can't live without. |
Marc Durant
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Posted - 2014.08.25 12:50:00 -
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Normally I'd agree with that but so far EVE hasn't had any real opposition in that regard, Roberts and Braben are big names and they're both big titles in their own right. E:D is very limited but SC is going to grab a whole bunch of folks who are happy to avoid interaction with other players in regards to PVP. Yes, yes-áI am. Thanks for noticing.
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Velarra
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Posted - 2014.08.25 12:58:00 -
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As it hasn't shown up in the thread:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility |
Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2014.08.25 13:00:00 -
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It'd be foolish to believe there's not a certain amount of inevitability involved. For instance, it was inevitable the original CCP development team would come out of the garage with this game, and that it would flourish...and they'd get grey and less daring...and it would become corporate, though less so than other counterparts - games that is.
It's inevitable this all be passed along to a younger generation coming up that already exhibits signs of lacking any intellectual or imaginative prowess. Even their organizational skills lag far behind their "look at me, ain't I cool?" skills. So, the future does look grim in a lot of respects.
I believe EVE will last as long as there's electricity to run it, and people with money to fund it. I even think it'll last far beyond us in some form - and you'll be able to find it even on a wildly bootlegged, underground internet - should that eventuality occur in more than futuristic tales and movies.
But, right now I'm looking at a volcano that might have something to say about it all in the near term. SURE, the servers are in ENGLAND, but the brains! Where are the brains! *checks his pockets*
I don't have them! Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
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Posted - 2014.08.25 13:11:00 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: Everytime someone says EVE is Dying, a player biomasses. You can do the math from there, Q.Q
Think of the players!
Well with 20,000 of those posts a day you would think the playerbase would be about dry by now. |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.08.25 13:13:00 -
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A caring player makes lots of noise, developers need to be concerned of those saying nothing. |
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