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Thorondir 42
Krittapong
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Posted - 2014.10.01 22:51:01 -
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The vengeance actually shoots a shitload of defenders .. depending on your timing they might eat quite a few missiles. |
Lenartowicz
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:06:00 -
[182] - Quote
after losing a fair few expensive ships and getting no where I decided to take a different route:
[Harpy, burner] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script [empty med slot] [empty med slot] 1MN Afterburner II
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot]
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
stuck at 18km from the vengeance and had at the logi, eventually they must have separated as the repping stopped, as soon as one logi was down the rest was a piece of cake...
most of the fits posted are unreal isk. |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:42:00 -
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tried the rocketgarmur on tranq today. first was the enyo team and i was not able to break the first logi. on sissy it was no prob yesterday. then i upgraded the bc to cnbc but still the same thingy.
second was the hawk team. first logi takes a while but i noticed 3 hits with 400 damage from the hawk orbiting at ~18 k. never had them on sissy.
rest was also a piece of cake. |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:42:15 -
[184] - Quote
tried the rocketgarmur on tranq today. first was the enyo team and i was not able to break the first logi. on sissy it was no prob yesterday. then i upgraded the bc to cnbc but still the same thingy.
second was the hawk team. first logi takes a while but i noticed 3 hits with 400 damage from the hawk orbiting at ~18 k. never had them on sissy.
rest was also a piece of cake.
Lenartowicz wrote:
most of the fits posted are unreal isk.
depends on when it is safe or not, and you can use them for other purposes. |
Nidodog
Higher Source Contract Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2014.10.03 16:51:52 -
[185] - Quote
T2/meta AB kestrel with LM works for the enyo one and probably some others. In fact, as I look at it its stats, seems it perfoms similarly to that expensive bling bling "unified" whatever ship thats listed here so it might work for all. |
Jori McKie
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
171
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:46:00 -
[186] - Quote
Nidodog wrote:T2/meta AB kestrel with LM works for the enyo one and probably some others. In fact, as I look at it its stats, seems it perfoms similarly to that expensive bling bling "unified" whatever ship thats listed here so it might work for all.
Work, doubt it. The LML Kestrel has not heated 142 DPS, you won't break the Burner Logi in any acceptable timeframe. Usually you need +10mins or don't break the Logi tank at all. Sometimes you are lucky as in some case the Logi Burner get out of range of each other that seems to have happened in your case but it isn't reproduceable at all, not yet at least.
Especially the Enyo has some odd features, see Ploing post above yours. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." --áAbrazzar |
Jori McKie
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
176
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Posted - 2014.10.03 18:46:52 -
[187] - Quote
Nidodog wrote:T2/meta AB kestrel with LM works for the enyo one and probably some others. In fact, as I look at it its stats, seems it perfoms similarly to that expensive bling bling "unified" whatever ship thats listed here so it might work for all.
Work, doubt it. The LML Kestrel has not heated 142 DPS, you won't break the Burner Logi in any acceptable timeframe. Usually you need +10mins or don't break the Logi tank at all. Sometimes you are lucky as in some case the Logi Burner get out of range of each other that seems to have happened in your case but it isn't reproduceable at all, not yet at least.
Especially the Enyo has some odd features, see Ploing post above yours.
I did a lot of Burner missions, roughly 100 and all of them with pimped fittings. So far i didn't lost any Frig but today it was close even in pimped fittings with a big margin of error you have to be very careful. I warped into a Burner Worm, everything as usual but instead of overheating one kin Hardener i shut it off. After the first volley i noticed something is wrong all my armor was gone. Panic mode, overheat everything and then the famous wtf moment one hardener was not cycling. The 2nd volley got me in 50% structure after that i stabilized and was able to finish the mission, thanks to the pimped fitting.
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."
--áAbrazzar
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Saulstarinsh
StiGas
2
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Posted - 2014.10.03 22:22:36 -
[188] - Quote
[Garmur, kite] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
1MN Afterburner II 'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II
Small Ionic Field Projector I Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x2689 Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile x1877 Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x1433 Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x1500
just try this fit on enyo burner works excellent much better than without ECM |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:12:00 -
[189] - Quote
Saulstarinsh wrote:
just try this fit on enyo burner works excellent much better than without ECM
indeed. tried it today and i only needed 1 cycle from the ecm to kill the first logi. timeframe was something under 4 mins, witch depends when your ecm cycle lands.
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.04 21:12:21 -
[190] - Quote
Saulstarinsh wrote:
just try this fit on enyo burner works excellent much better than without ECM
indeed. tried it today and i only needed 1 cycle from the ecm to kill the first logi. timeframe was something under 4 mins for all ships, witch depends when your ecm cycle lands. |
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Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
5
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Posted - 2014.10.06 08:35:00 -
[191] - Quote
I would like you guys to petition on this thread with me, its about nerfing jumps distance from agent and couple other things.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=377674&find=unread
I made a kite breach, 116 DPS, way too low DPS to kill support frigs in new team burner, reading that a kestrel was successful at killing an Enyo team... i wanted to try
KITE BREACH
3 compact light 83 DPS Navy Mijolnir\Scourge 2 phased TP 1 supplemental resist exp 30% 0\20\40\65 1 MN AB 1139 m\s 3 BCU 2 Flar rig 1 Rigor rig 1 Acolyte II 16.5 dps 1 Hornet II 17.4 dps
apart from pirate ships, only the hookbill is navy frig with missiles, that could do the kite job, Garmur is THE ship, do you guys think there could be a breach-kestrel navy counterpart with a navy buff?? couse now navy frig have hulls of their own... etic vs fun?? ( more choices\ hull\ fits = more fun) |
Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
9
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Posted - 2014.10.06 08:35:28 -
[192] - Quote
I would like you guys to petition on this thread with me, its about nerfing jumps distance from agent and couple other things.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=377674&find=unread
I made a kite breach, 86 DPS + 33DPS from drones, way too low DPS to kill support frigs in new team burner, reading that a kestrel was successful at killing an Enyo team... i wanted to try a fit, but it just won't work.
for comparison, the vengeance with 3x BCU and compact light do 116 DPS, no drones, the hawk even less, with only 2 BCU. Hookbill 126 dps with Navy Scourge and 96 with other Navies. None of these will work with LML. ~150 DPS is really the minmum.
Garmur is THE ship, do you guys think there could be a breach-kestrel navy counterpart with a navy buff?? couse now navy frig have hulls of their own... etic vs fun?? ( more choices\ hull\ fits = more fun) |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
496
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:14:13 -
[193] - Quote
Queotzcatl wrote:I would like you guys to petition on this thread with me, its about nerfing jumps distance from agent and couple other things. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=377674&find=unreadI made a kite breach, 86 DPS + 33DPS from drones, way too low DPS to kill support frigs in new team burner, reading that a kestrel was successful at killing an Enyo team... i wanted to try a fit, but it just won't work. for comparison, the vengeance with 3x BCU and compact light do 116 DPS, no drones, the hawk even less, with only 2 BCU. Hookbill 126 dps with Navy Scourge and 96 with other Navies. None of these will work with LML. ~150 DPS is really the minmum. Garmur is THE ship, do you guys think there could be a breach-kestrel navy counterpart with a navy buff?? couse now navy frig have hulls of their own... etic vs fun?? ( more choices\ hull\ fits = more fun)
No. If you can't afford the expensive ship fits suggested in this thread, then don't try them solo. Get some friends to help. This is a MMO after all. Me and a friend flying similarly fit Vengeance setups have been abe to do all the Team Burner missions. We don't go after the support frigs at all. We are just able to put out enough dps that the support rats can't rep enough. |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.07 00:25:25 -
[194] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:Queotzcatl wrote:I would like you guys to petition on this thread with me, its about nerfing jumps distance from agent and couple other things. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=377674&find=unreadI made a kite breach, 86 DPS + 33DPS from drones, way too low DPS to kill support frigs in new team burner, reading that a kestrel was successful at killing an Enyo team... i wanted to try a fit, but it just won't work. for comparison, the vengeance with 3x BCU and compact light do 116 DPS, no drones, the hawk even less, with only 2 BCU. Hookbill 126 dps with Navy Scourge and 96 with other Navies. None of these will work with LML. ~150 DPS is really the minmum. Garmur is THE ship, do you guys think there could be a breach-kestrel navy counterpart with a navy buff?? couse now navy frig have hulls of their own... etic vs fun?? ( more choices\ hull\ fits = more fun) No. If you can't afford the expensive ship fits suggested in this thread, then don't try them solo. Get some friends to help. This is a MMO after all. Me and a friend flying similarly fit Vengeance setups have been abe to do all the Team Burner missions. We don't go after the support frigs at all. We are just able to put out enough dps that the support rats can't rep enough.
with friends its an easy cake but we tried to solo them.
today i tried this one .
[Garmur, teamburner long ecm] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gistii B-Type 1MN Microwarpdrive BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Dread Guristas Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Dread Guristas Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Dread Guristas Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Small Ionic Field Projector I
ammo and ecm depends on your enemy, due to double ecm the first logi falls down very quickly. after that emc the second logi and attack the burner. very save and in a few minutes done.
fit needs ca-1 and ca-2 implant and is capstable. |
Energetic Monk
Wayforward Emergent Technologies
27
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Posted - 2014.10.07 05:33:51 -
[195] - Quote
jackudza wrote:Posted already to Test Server Feedback thread but duplicate here as well. Some videos with fits if you are interested: Sansha Anomic Site - WolfPerfect skills but no implants/boosters.
Noticed the empty high slot on the Wolf, used an almost identical fit and added a module in that empty slot to be used as a heatsink. Never got to fully understand the overheating thing but as it looked, i could do a bit more overheating with that module offlined and fitted. |
Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
6
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Posted - 2014.10.08 10:23:00 -
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I lost my Retribution brawl vs the Jaguar. fit was the same as suggested except for one vital rig- the nano pump. consequently I wasnt able to tank. overheating was barely enough. Infact the rigs were for the kite version. but speed was not enough. So I swapped fit to brawl. keeping the wrong rigs. I thought to be able to kill the first logi while tanking, but, also, jaguar logis orbits at 16km. out of web range. ( and I knew that thanks to Jackedza spreadsheet before ) I had my fed navy web with me, overheated, i wasnt able to web down the burst and kill him with Scorches before burning out of time. My poor tank at the time the first logi was almost done was gone. ( not really poor ) I took my Garmur in and finished the job. Precision light weren't breakingt the logi tank very fast. Navies waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. tried precision then on jaguar with race ecm on second burst. they didn't work. As soon as I swapped to Navy scourge it started melting. Bring Navies. |
Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
9
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Posted - 2014.10.08 10:23:51 -
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RETRIBUTION - JAGUAR TEAM
EDITED exact fit. ( For the Hawk no need to change)
SWAPPED A MWD T1 FOR THE AB Need to sacrifice a Heat dmg for fa tracking enhancer also. ADDED A TP
orbit 22\23 km. less and jaguar will web. -/ I got webbed orbiting at 20km Jaguar got under 17km... at 22km Jaguar got at 18km at its nearest.
This way is possible to kite without implants or boosters. |
Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
8
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:33:00 -
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And because I'm a rebel, I made this BREACH FIT
I call it the WORMER
BREACH - BURNER WORM
3x Flux coil T2
1x MSB T2 1x Gistum C type Kinetic 1x J5 scrambler 1x MWD T2
3x Rocket L. T2
2x Kin T2 rifs 1x Warhead calefaction T1
This little beast is faster then my Enyo worm fit, it tanks just a little less, but more than enough, and its applied dps is 100\sec vs the 160\sec of the enyo. with rage mijolnir and two acolyte T2 breaking through 20% of EM resist of the worm. its not that bad....
only one problem... you need to over-burn to him with booster off for yhe first two worm shots. second shot will take you to half armor. there yae start the booster. Now you have only 12 seconds left to catch him. MWD off and you stable. |
Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
9
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:33:26 -
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And because I'm a rebel, I made this BREACH FIT
I call it the WORMER
BREACH - BURNER WORM
3x Flux coil T2
1x MSB T2 1x Gistum C type Kinetic 1x Faint Epsilon Warp scrambler 1x MWD T2
3x Rocket L. T2
2x Kin T2 rifs 1x Warhead calefaction T1
This little beast is faster then my Enyo worm fit, (very similar to jory's) it tanks just a little less, but more than enough, and its applied dps is 100 DPS vs the 177 DPS of the enyo. with rage mijolnir and two acolyte T2 breaking through 20% of EM resist of the worm. its not that bad.... for comparison, the Hawk vs the Serpentis applied dps is +- 128dps
only one problem... you need to over-burn to him with booster off for yhe first two worm shots. second shot will take you to half armor. there yae start the booster. Now you have only 12 seconds left to catch him. MWD off and you stable. ( or put a gistii B type MWD in and get 21 sec - there you get him! )/ slot 8 cap 5% - no speed implants ) |
Deuce Bigalo
The Sadistic Clowns
50
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:44:29 -
[200] - Quote
1st and foremost:
Thank you for sharing your hard work with us. It is much appreciated.
Quick question -
For the kite fittings - Would it be ok to use a mwd instead of the ab to have more speed? Or would that increase the sig radius too much ?
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:50:37 -
[201] - Quote
Deuce Bigalo wrote:1st and foremost:
Thank you for sharing your hard work with us. It is much appreciated.
Quick question -
For the kite fittings - Would it be ok to use a mwd instead of the ab to have more speed? Or would that increase the sig radius too much ?
for teamburner with the garmur ? in this case i use always mwd, cause you are faster in orbit range at 25-30. they will never hit at this distance for all teamburners. |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.09 23:14:56 -
[202] - Quote
Queotzcatl wrote:And because I'm a rebel, I made this BREACH FIT
I call it the WORMER
do you tested it live ? the 12 seconds seem to be very scary if you missclick something. on the other hand i know only a daredevilfit wich is way more expensive. |
Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
8
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:12:00 -
[203] - Quote
Ploing wrote:Queotzcatl wrote:And because I'm a rebel, I made this BREACH FIT
I call it the WORMER
do you tested it live ? the 12 seconds seem to be very scary if you missclick something. on the other hand i know only a daredevilfit wich is way more expensive.
it's all based on this sheet i made.
Effective DPS based on Jackudza spreadsheet Worm resistances 32% th - 52% kin
wormer enyo X92-A and X84 > 149 void + 13 aco - 160 tot wormer enyo X92-B > 162 void + 13 aco - 173 tot wormer proto incursus > 104 void + 13 aco - 117 tot the wormer - breach > 74.5 navy mij + 24,5 aco - 100 tot
effective tank vs 100% kin
wormer enyo X92-A > +10 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy wormer enyo X92-B > +5\7 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy wormer enyo X84 > +4 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy wormer proto incursus > +2 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy the wormer - breach > +8 hp\s stable mwd T2 off after landing
breach -after second hit, must activate shield. it will be half armor. max cap 32 sec activating boost immediately after second hit. - at 4500 m\s
is just enough to land scram before cap run out.
mwd must be put offline, in order to get back full cap on all suggested fits. mwd acc skill to V
-----------for personal use----------------------------------------------- ENYO FIRST TRY WITH KIN ARMOR HARDENER OFF - SPEED WILL BE 4290 - BUT WILL
TEST TANK OF 5 hp\s IF SPEED IS ENOUGH; IT IS POSSIBLE TO SWAP ONE NANO RIG
FOR AN DMG ONE + tank 5-7 hp\s + 173 tot eff dps + 4280 m\s > enyo X92-B >
same lows as X92 with not centii but coreli c-type repper.
burner enyo X92-A 4280 m\s- hot 2x nanopump T2 rigs lows > centii A type + armor kin t2 + 2x overdrive T2
wormer enyo X84 4500m\s - hot 2x nanopump T2 rigs centti A-type + Nano structure T2 + 2x Overdrive T2
wormer enyo X92-B 4280 m\s- hot 1x nanopump T2 1x hybrid collision acc T1 lows > corelii A-type + armor kin T2 + 2x overdrive T2
wormer proto incursus 4231 m\s 2x armor kin T2 rigs 1x hybrid collision acc T1 lows > small rep T2 + 2x armor kin 55% + Overdrive T2
the Wormer - breach 4480 m\s-
No- unfortunately, I still have 10 days to MWD acc V to train , but the time will come.
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Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
9
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Posted - 2014.10.10 14:12:40 -
[204] - Quote
Ploing wrote:Queotzcatl wrote:And because I'm a rebel, I made this BREACH FIT
I call it the WORMER
do you tested it live ? the 12 seconds seem to be very scary if you missclick something. on the other hand i know only a daredevilfit wich is way more expensive.
it's all based on this sheet i made. -edit - stats are with 5% surgical strike and +5% cap regen implants these are not all lev V stats but quite all lev V and lev IV for guns and rockets specializations.
Effective DPS based on Jackudza spreadsheet Worm resistances 36% th - 52% kin
wormer enyo X92-A and X84 > 149 void + 13 aco - 160 tot wormer enyo X92-B > 162 void + 13 aco - 173 tot wormer proto incursus > 104 void + 13 aco - 117 tot the wormer - breach > 74.5 navy mij + 24,5 aco - 100 tot
effective tank vs 100% kin -always Jackudza 227 dps (2227 volley) sheet.
wormer enyo X92-A > +10 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy wormer enyo X92-B > +5\7 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy wormer enyo X84 > +4 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy wormer proto incursus > +2 hp\s cap injection 400XL Navy the wormer - breach > +8 hp\s stable mwd T2 off after landing
breach -after second hit, must activate shield. it will be half armor. max cap 32 sec activating boost immediately after second hit. - at 4500 m\s is just enough to land scram before cap run out. ( if two worm shots = 20 sec ) 12 sec from second worm shot
mwd must be put offline, in order to get back full cap on all suggested fits. mwd acc skill to V
-----------for personal use----------------------------------------------- ENYO FIRST TRY WITH KIN ARMOR HARDENER OFF - SPEED WILL BE 4290 - BUT WILL
TEST TANK OF 5 hp\s IF SPEED IS ENOUGH; IT IS POSSIBLE TO SWAP ONE NANO RIG
FOR AN DMG ONE + tank 5-7 hp\s + 173 tot eff dps + 4280 m\s > enyo X92-B >
same lows as X92 with not centii but coreli c-type repper.
burner enyo X92-A 4280 m\s- hot 2x nanopump T2 rigs lows > centii A type + armor kin t2 + 2x overdrive T2
wormer enyo X84 4500m\s - hot 2x nanopump T2 rigs centti A-type + Nano structure T2 + 2x Overdrive T2
wormer enyo X92-B 4280 m\s- hot 1x nanopump T2 1x hybrid collision acc T1 lows > corelii A-type + armor kin T2 + 2x overdrive T2
wormer proto incursus 4231 m\s 2x armor kin T2 rigs 1x hybrid collision acc T1 lows > small rep T2 + 2x armor kin 55% + Overdrive T2
the Wormer - breach 4480 m\s-
these stats all nav skills to V -
No- unfortunately, I still have 10 days to MWD acc V to train , but the time will come. The Wormer - Breach is the first ship on the line to my test. Then proto incursus. If they will fail... you will know it...
The Wormer is the only cap stable ship - thus "IF" its DPS will fail - I-you should be able to warp out, slowboating 250 km away ( if this works - or if the worm switch aggro to drones and I haven't deployed them immediately and have them killed ). So it's bang for the buck. ( Of course you can still lose it if you misclick something in the first 20 sec run!!
A vengeance with only two launchers active and cannon, will output 116 dps - as the breach do - I should test the Angel tank as its em resists are 0% ( Worm EM are 20% ). An officer fit Worm with shield op rigs, medium boost, shield boost enhancer and implants.... can theoretically tank more than 200 dps... neither the enyo could break it... without taking in consideration a crystal set... |
jackudza
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:06:15 -
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Queotzcatl wrote: ... wormer enyo X92-A and X84 > 149 void + 13 aco - 160 tot wormer enyo X92-B > 162 void + 13 aco - 173 tot wormer proto incursus > 104 void + 13 aco - 117 tot the wormer - breach > 74.5 navy mij + 24,5 aco - 100 tot ...
I am not sure what fit you were using but in my T2 fitted Enyo DPS against Worm is: Without overheating: 153 * (1-0.36) + 153 * (1 - 0.52) (gun) + 17.2 * 0.8 (missile) + 17.3 * 0.8 (drone) = 97.92 + 73.44 + 13.76 + 13.84 = 198.96 DPS With overheated guns: 176 * (1-0.36) + 176 * (1 - 0.52) (gun) + 17.2 * 0.8 (missile) + 17.3 * 0.8 (drone) = 112.64 + 84.48 + 13.76 + 13.84 = 224.72 DPS
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Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
8
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:31:00 -
[206] - Quote
jackudza wrote:Queotzcatl wrote: ... wormer enyo X92-A and X84 > 149 void + 13 aco - 160 tot wormer enyo X92-B > 162 void + 13 aco - 173 tot wormer proto incursus > 104 void + 13 aco - 117 tot the wormer - breach > 74.5 navy mij + 24,5 aco - 100 tot ...
I am not sure what fit you were using but in my T2 fitted Enyo DPS against Worm is: Without overheating: 153 * (1-0.36) + 153 * (1 - 0.52) (gun) + 17.2 * 0.8 (missile) + 17.3 * 0.8 (drone) = 97.92 + 73.44 + 13.76 + 13.84 = 198.96 DPS With overheated guns: 176 * (1-0.36) + 176 * (1 - 0.52) (gun) + 17.2 * 0.8 (missile) + 17.3 * 0.8 (drone) = 112.64 + 84.48 + 13.76 + 13.84 = 224.72 DPS
my base X92 DPS for guns is 131* and my fit has no missiles nor any other dmg mods but a +5 surgical strike. = 160 DPS I have listed only the lows and rigs, for reading convenience, for all fits.
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Queotzcatl
RENEGADES YIY HEKATEK
9
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Posted - 2014.10.10 16:31:09 -
[207] - Quote
jackudza wrote:Queotzcatl wrote: ... wormer enyo X92-A and X84 > 149 void + 13 aco - 160 tot wormer enyo X92-B > 162 void + 13 aco - 173 tot wormer proto incursus > 104 void + 13 aco - 117 tot the wormer - breach > 74.5 navy mij + 24,5 aco - 100 tot ...
I am not sure what fit you were using but in my T2 fitted Enyo DPS against Worm is: Without overheating: 153 * (1-0.36) + 153 * (1 - 0.52) (gun) + 17.2 * 0.8 (missile) + 17.3 * 0.8 (drone) = 97.92 + 73.44 + 13.76 + 13.84 = 198.96 DPS With overheated guns: 176 * (1-0.36) + 176 * (1 - 0.52) (gun) + 17.2 * 0.8 (missile) + 17.3 * 0.8 (drone) = 112.64 + 84.48 + 13.76 + 13.84 = 224.72 DPS
my base X92 DPS for guns is 131* and my fit has no missiles nor any other dmg mods but a +5 surgical strike. = 160 DPS I have listed only the lows and rigs, for reading convenience, for all fits. I would get 151 DPS for enyo with a small hybrid +5% and a collision acc rig T2 +10% and the surgical strike+5% I have specified my clone has no relevant implants except for 5% surgical and cap+5%, ty for having me noticed.
Yes, your Enyo would theoretically break a 187-200 hp\s tank of a MSB officer fit worm. Breach don't stand a chance probably - but if the worm tank would be less, like 120 hp\s, or 100 hp\s... I do not yet know that. DD burner tank less than 127 ( specific) DPS Hawk of mine... |
Dalia Drexis
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.17 15:50:27 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:Heh, that was quick. So long new content excitement, welcome back predictable minmaxing grind. want excitement? Go PVP.. go hunt people and get money from their drops. I find funnyt hat carebears complain missions are not exciting and have no risk or need of skill then they say.. noo no pvp, pvp has risk and you nee too much skill.
funny that Kagura Nikon, your idea of exciting PVP is wardeccing alliances with a steady supply of warm bodies in high sec around Jita and then ganking their industrials on gates and Jita undock, lol, I laugh at your pathetic comment hahahaha....
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Moraguth
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:49:08 -
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Jori McKie wrote:Team Burner .... Burner All.... Quote:[Garmur, Burner All] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
1MN Afterburner II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script
Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile
Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II
EDIT:: I lied, I used 3 caldari navy ballistic control systems. But I'm betting even if you used the cheaper ones it would be just as doable, but you'd require a few more volleys. no big deal. ::EDIT
Just used this exact setup for the Burner Hawk (team) mission. Worked like a charm. Orbited the hawk at 35km, took 0 damage. No relevant implants, cap stable, didn't overload anything. 1st logi frig went down in 29 volleys. 2nd went down in 6 volleys. Hawk went down in 6 more. Unfortunately, I didn't get any good loot and only T1 salvage. But on the plus side, I DIDN'T LOSE MY SHIP PRAISE WHATEVER GOD(ESS) YOU WISH I DIDN'T LOSE THE SHIP!
Thank you for restoring my faith in burner missions.
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John Blackthrone
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.21 20:07:02 -
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Hi,
I have a burner mission available (VS Dramiel). Since my skills are only good with flying Amarr ships/Laser Guns and the Retribution sucks I want to ask if there is a good fitting for a Succubus vs that dramiel?
4 Meds should be good (tripple web and AB). But can I armor tank that Succi enough? Kin and Explo Hardener and a C-Type Repper with Repping/Resistance/Dmg Rigs?
Not sure I will do enough dmg without Heat Sink although I have all Gunnery Skills at V =\
Any ideas? Or a alternative Amarr/Laser ship that can handle the Dramiel? |
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