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Neo Agricola
BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:26:00 -
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Somatic Neuron wrote:Wait, so instead of 4/2/1, the starbases are 40/20/10 per HOUR? Ummmm.....at the current materials to construct a fuel block, that is going to be x10 the amount of fuel per hour that they are currently consuming. What the F#CK? This looks like an EMERGENCY change is needed BEFORE the damn thing goes live.... Nope they use 40/20/10 (- faction bonus - sov bonus) Producing 40 per run.
everything looks good (exept the size of those blocks... they could be smaler for better logistic, but you cant have everything)
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
684
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:29:00 -
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Somatic Neuron wrote:Wait, so instead of 4/2/1, the starbases are 40/20/10 per HOUR? Ummmm.....at the current materials to construct a fuel block, that is going to be x10 the amount of fuel per hour that they are currently consuming. What the F#CK? This looks like an EMERGENCY change is needed BEFORE the damn thing goes live....
The consume 10x the blocks, however each production run produces 10x as many blocks for the same fuel and they're each 1/10th the volume.
Think of it as the difference between spending a dollar or 100 pennies. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
32
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:31:00 -
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Somatic Neuron wrote:Wait, so instead of 4/2/1, the starbases are 40/20/10 per HOUR? Ummmm.....at the current materials to construct a fuel block, that is going to be x10 the amount of fuel per hour that they are currently consuming. What the F#CK? This looks like an EMERGENCY change is needed BEFORE the damn thing goes live....
Varies by materials. Less Uranium and Robotics, more heavy water and ozone.
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Thunder Fenix
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:28:00 -
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I see just 2 ways to fix the price-LO/HW usage:
1) EASIER but lot less intriguing:
increase LO/HW yeld of ice block to balance the more consumption of them (reduce usage of LO/HW is more complex since ccp should change 'em for every single anchorable structure)
2) HARDER but a lot more interesting:
regroup all fixed fuels (isotopes, uranium, coolant, etc) into a single fuel block make other 2 blocks for LO and HW
Yes more BPOs and bit more complexity but will contribute a lot in keeping prices down and let ppl used to run their POS above 100% to avoid both increased cost and hauling. However concerns about m3 to haul are just quite poor discussions at this time: this can be modified later on by changing just a pair of numbers, i'm a lot more worried about price factor for now.
PI tax boost will alredy make price rise of a bit (spent 15M to get out P2 on 6 planets more than 3x of previous patch, and the player owned custom office thing doesn't help little corps or lone players, as usual) and definitely force the POS fuel usage to increase without make smth to balance it is even worse.
Honestly i think that instead of diversify ways and chances of a player to manage its own things CCP is going to reduce 'em... just like happened with CAPITAIN'S QUARTER and this is a sad thing.
Anyway just an opinion like many others
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries Bloodbound.
46
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:12:00 -
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I'm re-doing my pos fuel spreadsheet, and I really, REALLY hope I've made a mistake, because the new cost for running a POS is CRAZY.
Is anyone else getting +600mil ISK per month for a large tower? (Thats for the Ice products only, and at current Jita sell price.) I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries Bloodbound.
46
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:26:00 -
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*double post* I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
231
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:34:00 -
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You are probably looking at gallente fuel. Check the others What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644 |
Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries Bloodbound.
46
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Posted - 2011.12.09 17:51:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:You are probably looking at gallente fuel. Check the others
Afraid not, Minmatar. Training up production efficiency currently to see how that helps.
I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
451
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Posted - 2011.12.09 23:20:00 -
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Coolant 12.5k - 8/hr En Uranium 12.95k - 4/hr Mech Parts 10.8k - 4/hr Oxygen - 367 - 20/hr Robotics - 77.4k - 1/hr HW - 170 - 150/hr Isotopes - 443-480 - 400/hr LiqOz - 468 - 150/hr
Amarr: 101 / 201 / 400 - 13883 ISK/u Caldari: 104 / 206 / 410 - 14243 ISK/u Gallente: 174 / 347 / 692 - 24016 ISK/u Minmatar: 104 / 206 / 410 - 14252 ISK/u
ISK/30d - plus approx fuel block cost to make it yourself using the above prices (assumes Production Efficiency V and a ME 40 BPO). |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
106
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Posted - 2011.12.10 22:36:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Coolant 12.5k - 8/hr En Uranium 12.95k - 4/hr Mech Parts 10.8k - 4/hr Oxygen - 367 - 20/hr Robotics - 77.4k - 1/hr HW - 170 - 150/hr Isotopes - 443-480 - 400/hr LiqOz - 468 - 150/hr
Amarr: 101 / 201 / 400 - 13883 ISK/u Caldari: 104 / 206 / 410 - 14243 ISK/u Gallente: 174 / 347 / 692 - 24016 ISK/u Minmatar: 104 / 206 / 410 - 14252 ISK/u
ISK/30d - plus approx fuel block cost to make it yourself using the above prices (assumes Production Efficiency V and a ME 40 BPO).
Bob, you just have that saved in a text file and just sleepily post it wherever you go, don't you?
I'd just sign in and post the following "Sig"
Would help avoid so many bad mathium tears. |
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
580
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:09:00 -
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Actually, I have a spreadsheet that pulls daily values from places like eve-marketdata and spits it out nice and pretty. |
Gallion
GALACTIC GUARDIAN KNIGHTS
507
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Posted - 2012.01.03 01:08:00 -
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is their still no Defination on the Date for Fuel Block active switch over? This is a Signature, It makes people Stare. (Man I gotta Make one , or Find one to steal) |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1115
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Posted - 2012.01.03 03:01:00 -
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Gallion wrote:is their still no Defination on the Date for Fuel Block active switch over?
There was a news post, a Dev blog, and a whole bunch of yelling on the forums. So I'd say it's been announced. |
Gallion
GALACTIC GUARDIAN KNIGHTS
507
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Posted - 2012.01.03 07:02:00 -
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Ive read most of the postings about it, Ive read nothing on a definate date.
This is a Signature, It makes people Stare. (Man I gotta Make one , or Find one to steal) |
non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
730
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Posted - 2012.01.03 07:22:00 -
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I thought it was the 24th of january. |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2012.01.03 07:25:00 -
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non judgement wrote:I thought it was the 24th of january. It better be after the late announcement 24th is the drop dead date for the change. |
non judgement
Without Fear Flying Burning Ships Alliance
730
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Posted - 2012.01.03 07:31:00 -
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Salpun wrote:non judgement wrote:I thought it was the 24th of january. It better be after the late announcement 24th is the drop dead date for the change. I thought that that was what they were asking. The drop dead date is the date of the switch over right?
CCP Soundwave talks about it here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44269 |
Salpun
Paramount Commerce Tactical Invader Syndicate
170
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Posted - 2012.01.03 07:35:00 -
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double post |
Teclador
Stardust Heavy Industries United Pod Service
5
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Posted - 2012.02.25 00:29:00 -
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Im Asking me how the Sovereignty is influencing the fuel numbers on the different tower sizes and faction tiers.
Can someone confirm these numbers here, in special for the Small and Medium Towers?
Small Tower: 10 / 9 / 8 Small Tower: 7.5 / 6.75 / 6 (w. Sov.)
Medium Tower: 20 / 18 / 16 Medium Tower: 15 / 13.5 / 12 (w. Sov.)
Large Tower: 40 / 36 / 32 Large Tower: 30 / 27 / 24 (w. Sov.)
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Teclador
Stardust Heavy Industries
8
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:45:00 -
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Teclador wrote:Im Asking me how the Sovereignty is influencing the fuel numbers on the different tower sizes and faction tiers.
Can someone confirm these numbers here, in special for the Small and Medium Towers?
Small Tower: 10 / 9 / 8 Small Tower: 7.5 / 6.75 / 6 (w. Sov.)
Medium Tower: 20 / 18 / 16 Medium Tower: 15 / 13.5 / 12 (w. Sov.)
Large Tower: 40 / 36 / 32 Large Tower: 30 / 27 / 24 (w. Sov.)
Anyone? |
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
1471
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:14:00 -
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Teclador wrote:Teclador wrote:Im Asking me how the Sovereignty is influencing the fuel numbers on the different tower sizes and faction tiers.
Can someone confirm these numbers here, in special for the Small and Medium Towers?
Small Tower: 10 / 9 / 8 Small Tower: 7.5 / 6.75 / 6 (w. Sov.)
Medium Tower: 20 / 18 / 16 Medium Tower: 15 / 13.5 / 12 (w. Sov.)
Large Tower: 40 / 36 / 32 Large Tower: 30 / 27 / 24 (w. Sov.)
Anyone?
Has SISI been down for the 3 months since you asked? Don't Necro Single-Shard, Player DrivenSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Teclador
Stardust Heavy Industries Persona Non Gratis
8
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Posted - 2012.05.03 20:33:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Teclador wrote:Teclador wrote:Im Asking me how the Sovereignty is influencing the fuel numbers on the different tower sizes and faction tiers.
Can someone confirm these numbers here, in special for the Small and Medium Towers?
Small Tower: 10 / 9 / 8 Small Tower: 7.5 / 6.75 / 6 (w. Sov.)
Medium Tower: 20 / 18 / 16 Medium Tower: 15 / 13.5 / 12 (w. Sov.)
Large Tower: 40 / 36 / 32 Large Tower: 30 / 27 / 24 (w. Sov.)
Anyone? Has SISI been down for the 3 months since you asked? Don't Necro On Sisi we are not in an (Sov holding) Alliance to test this. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
1476
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Posted - 2012.05.03 23:05:00 -
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Teclador wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Teclador wrote:Teclador wrote:Im Asking me how the Sovereignty is influencing the fuel numbers on the different tower sizes and faction tiers.
Can someone confirm these numbers here, in special for the Small and Medium Towers?
Small Tower: 10 / 9 / 8 Small Tower: 7.5 / 6.75 / 6 (w. Sov.)
Medium Tower: 20 / 18 / 16 Medium Tower: 15 / 13.5 / 12 (w. Sov.)
Large Tower: 40 / 36 / 32 Large Tower: 30 / 27 / 24 (w. Sov.)
Anyone? Has SISI been down for the 3 months since you asked? Don't Necro On Sisi we are not in an (Sov holding) Alliance to test this.
Sounds like an issue that could be solved by asking the Test Server Forums for advice instead of propping up a necro'd thread. Single-Shard, Player DrivenSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
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