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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:40:00 -
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While I wait for the patch to load, I thought I'd pose this question, which I haven't really seen discussed.
Here's a hypothetical:
Someone invents a very popular new game that has almost nothing to do with EVE. (An out-of-EVE gambling game, for instance.)
In order to play this game, you must periodically buy EVE PLEX with real currency from CCP or an authorized reseller.
Thousands of people buy thousands of PLEX they wouldn't have otherwise bought and the only real effect on EVE is that trillions of ISK accumulate in an account or twelve and sit there doing not very much.
To me, that's a freakin' bonanza for CCP. That bonanza is gone.
Am I wrong? |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1237
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:41:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:which I haven't really seen discussed. You obviously didnt really look. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4453
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:43:00 -
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Compromising the integrity of your business would have been the bigger mistake, especially after the trust was already damaged by the first incident. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:44:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:
Am I wrong?
Yes. Station services probably should have cleaned the clone vat better when you were conceived.
And... IBTL The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Durzel
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:46:00 -
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Once you establish a precedent for rules exemption for one guy, simply because of their size, then the rules cease to be enforceable because everyone else will (rightly) protest that they have to follow them when others don't. |
Liza Apinea
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:47:00 -
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Discussing moderation blah blah blah blah enjoy the lock. |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:48:00 -
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Somer was banned for breaking CCPs rules. It's not a business mistake to enforce your own rules. |
Faeana
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:57:00 -
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Somer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTTxDWZcbxI |
Faeana
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:59:00 -
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Also, what if the real business mistake was made by somer?
Afterall, he could have still earned money using the scheme without offering the isk incentive rmt work around. Now he gets nothing. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4251
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:04:00 -
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Nope, not in the least. =][= |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:08:00 -
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I feel that a single GÇ£no" would be a little too short an answer. So: lmao no. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1345
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:10:00 -
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CCP's decision will keep Tom Gerard around for years to come.
One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4253
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:14:00 -
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Oh,dear,he's on the gotee again. Try not to engage, there's no telling what he's going to do when he's off the wagon. =][= |
Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:14:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:While I wait for the patch to load, I thought I'd pose this question, which I haven't really seen discussed.
It was discussed, multiple times and for many many MANY pages. Literally trillions of electrons were terribly inconvenienced by the length of the discussions on this topic.
AkJon Ferguson wrote:Here's a hypothetical:
Someone invents a very popular new game that has almost nothing to do with EVE. (An out-of-EVE gambling game, for instance.)
In order to play this game, you must periodically buy EVE PLEX with real currency from CCP or an authorized reseller.
Thousands of people buy thousands of PLEX they wouldn't have otherwise bought and the only real effect on EVE is that trillions of ISK accumulate in an account or twelve and sit there doing not very much.
To me, that's a freakin' bonanza for CCP. That bonanza is gone.
Am I wrong?
Here's a totally hypothetical situation in no way related to any real life events which may (or may not) have already (or potetially could) occurred.
Here's the tl;dr: Somer got caught with his hands in the cookie jar. For the second time. CCP (rightly) decided that giving him a second pass for the same transgression would probably do a significant amount of collateral damage to their reputation and their ability to enforce their own EULA and TOS. Some is not, as much as he would like to have us believe, a victim or a matyr. He actively decided to break the rules, and as a result, got banned.
Hooray for justice. Long live CCP.
Can we let this go now, ffs? I used to be De'Veldrin - the irony is, now my name is actually right. :D |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1536
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:15:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:CCP's decision will keep Tom Gerard around for years to come.
And Xuixien, too. Epic Space Cat |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
778
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:17:00 -
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CCP could also hike their sub by 100%.
Some things are better than money. We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:19:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:... Literally trillions of electrons were terribly inconvenienced by the length of the discussions on this topic. I might have to borrow this one. |
Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:21:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:CCP could also hike their sub by 100%.
Now that would be a colossal business mistake.
Derrick Miles wrote:Absolutely Not Analt wrote:... Literally trillions of electrons were terribly inconvenienced by the length of the discussions on this topic. I might have to borrow this one.
Feel free, it's not mine - I saw it first on (iirc) a science forum that I frequent. Scientists are amusing chaps. I used to be De'Veldrin - the irony is, now my name is actually right. :D |
Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:37:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:CCP's decision will keep Tom Gerard around for years to come.
Logged for future reference in your ragequit thread.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:46:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:Thousands of people buy thousands of PLEX they wouldn't have otherwise bought and the only real effect on EVE is that trillions of ISK accumulate in an account or twelve and sit there doing not very much.
Somer made $135k from September 2010 to May 2013 with Shattered Crystal. At 8% commission, that's $1.6mn in GTC sales from him in 3 years. It's a nice amount of money but over that timespan it's a drop in the bucket for CCP. Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
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Ra' zutao
The Ascended Fleet Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:46:00 -
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In Other news.. I burned my onions last night while trying to fry them... |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.26 16:12:00 -
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Well it's just shocking! Shocking I tell you! If only there weren't a dozen other businesses already open to take over. CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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shimiku
Black VooDoo Asassins The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.08.26 16:14:00 -
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i cant see the problem in banning somer( the ppl behind it ) for rmt practice RMT is RMT |
Carmen Electra
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
2802
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Posted - 2014.08.26 16:20:00 -
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Literally the only thing I can see in this thread is OP portrait performing Magnum look from Zoolander. eve is dying |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3404
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Posted - 2014.08.26 16:36:00 -
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I too wondered what the impact would be, but realize there are more than enough groups out there that will fill the gap in GTC sales.
If Somer created a demand for plexes (by enabling problem gamblers), that is a different story, but I can't imagine that demand would be significant, and some of the other gambling sites will start selling GTC's, if they are not already.
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Binah 369
Ripshitz and Killit LLC
10
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Posted - 2014.08.26 16:53:00 -
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Ode to Somer.....
http://youtu.be/4UDnTJcjPhY |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3359
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Posted - 2014.08.26 16:54:00 -
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Quote:17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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