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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:11:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Thus increasing their risk
But not to the level it's at now. So again, you're proposing that the risk be reduced but not the reward. Bad argument dude, sorry.
Lucas Kell wrote:Or NPC corps stay the way they are, people continue to wardec soft targets and people continue to move into NPC corps to avoid them....
And eventually quit EVE out of boredom. Which is good, because we need less players like you and more players who accept EVE for what it is without some silly preconceptions about "space honor".
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4168
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:11:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:]I don't get involved in wardeccers. My high sec guys operate from NPC corps and my mains operate from null. So what you're saying is you actually have no experience in the topic? Got it. I think that just about wraps this up. :D Again with the misrepresentation. I've been playing a long time buddy, even longer than this character in fact. Just because I don't get involved right now certainly doesn't mean I never have. I'd certainly agree that I don;t currently continue to experience it though, since I've already seen that the mechanics surrounding it are rubbish and don't need to be dealt with.
Xuixien wrote:Mmmmm, tears. We're getting closer to the root of your argument now. If that's what you want to assume, feel free. The only hauler I've lost in highsec (that I can remember at least) was me autopiloting with exploration BPCs that I thought were near on worthless but were supposedly worth 100m or so. I like that you change your tactic so much, it's just further evidence you don't actually have a point you just want to troll, which is why you keep contradicting yourself.
I'll just give you the usual troll treatment to test that out.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4168
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:14:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Hence why a 20% tax on NPC corps would be good. They have a reason to want to be in a player corp that offers them less tax. Right, and do you really think a blanket nerf alone will have that result rather than just a monument shooting? Plus you'd need to do something else to stop it just being an attack on mission runners.
Personally I'd be happy with people getting massive reductions in all possible income after a set time if some concessions were made from the other side too. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1672
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:16:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Again with the misrepresentation.
Actually kid, it wasn't a misrepresentation, it was a response what you said. So if you want to whine about "misrepresentation", stop misrepresenting yourself.
Lucas Kell wrote:The only hauler I've lost in highsec (that I can remember at least) was me autopiloting with exploration BPCs that I thought were near on worthless but were supposedly worth 100m or so. I like that you change your tactic so much, it's just further evidence you don't actually have a point you just want to troll, which is why you keep contradicting yourself.
I like how you say something, and when someone responds to it, you amend it and then accuse them of "misrepresentation". lol So cute. ;) Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1672
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:19:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I just want CCP to change the game so Marmite drops their dec against my alliance and my logistics become easier. :(
Not empty quoting. Epic Space Cat |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12927
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:21:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:Hence why a 20% tax on NPC corps would be good. They have a reason to want to be in a player corp that offers them less tax. Right, and do you really think a blanket nerf alone will have that result rather than just a monument shooting? Plus you'd need to do something else to stop it just being an attack on mission runners. Personally I'd be happy with people getting massive reductions in all possible income after a set time if some concessions were made from the other side too.
They get wardec immunity. That alone is massive. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Kurosaki Rukia
Abysmal Gentlemen We Didn't Mean It
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:24:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Kurosaki Rukia wrote:I don't know how you could possibly make that sweeping generalization. Last time anyone attempted to suicide gank me I had a blast! Three catalysts versus my mac... three cats exploded, I warped out still in armour, and smack talked them in local no end for being fail gankers, I had an awesome time doing it, and went about my day. Thus all gankees are having fun? Is that what you are getting at here? You survive being ganked and thought it was funny, therefore anyone who gets ganked must be having fun doing so? You said that being ganked was one-sided content. My assertion is that it's only one sided content when you refuse to take responsibility for your own safety. Those who do take responsibility for their own safety often find fun in adversity. Thus is ceases to be one-sided content.
Lucas Kell wrote:Kurosaki Rukia wrote:It only becomes one sided content when you forget it's a game, forget that you're the protagonists of your own story, and start wishing for others, or even the hand of god to save you. No, it's one sided content when what you enjoy, when your content, is no longer viable because someone else's content is deemed to be more important. If NPC corps were removed without wardecs being remodelled, it would be forcing people who enjoy PvE to be fodder for people who just want to shoot easy targets. It wouldn't promote skill or a challenge, it wouldn't produce entertainment, it would just be a way to eject part of the community. The part of the community that desires rewards without risk want to undermine the very thing that makes Eve great. When I started playing Eve I was drawn to it because nowhere is ever truly safe. The danger is what makes it rewarding. Gaining rewards is more rewarding when there is risk and adversity between you and those rewards. If you take that away, you sell Eve's soul to the devil. Eve is unique. There's nothing else like it. Why should it sell its very soul to appease those who already have a myriad of themepark MMOs where they can go and play their way completely safe little bubble, free from ever having to interact with anyone? Why should the one game that's based on risk-reward, taking personal responsibility for one's own safety, and the possibility of other players messing up your day be the one to conform to the themepark MMO formulae where players get to gain rewards without taking any risks? My understanding of uniqueness is that, when you have 1000 things that are all the same, that 1 thing that is different is more valuable for its differences, and by making it conform you are doing yourself and others great harm by removing the possibility of ever having your own perceptions challenged.
Lucas Kell wrote:Good for you, but the ability to find a counter doesn't mean that what you are countering isn't unbalanced. Too little effort needs to be put in on the side of the aggressors. If we just went with leaving everything as is if it had a counter, nothing would get nerfed, and things like drone assist (which had counters they were just unreasonably unbalanced) would remain the same.
The things I am countering were ballanced around people who take responsibility for their own safety. Just because the group who refuses to take responsibility for their own safety finds them unbalanced, doesn't mean they are unbalanced.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4168
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:24:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:They get wardec immunity. That alone is massive. Agreed, which is why they should be encouraged out. But you don't encourage people out by setting fire to their house then repeatedly punching them in the face when they try to get out of the door. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12927
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:26:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:They get wardec immunity. That alone is massive. Agreed, which is why they should be encouraged out. But you don't encourage people out by setting fire to their house then repeatedly punching them in the face when they try to get out of the door.
9% more tax isn't setting their house on fire, its poking them with a stick. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6809
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:35:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:They get wardec immunity. That alone is massive. Agreed, which is why they should be encouraged out. But you don't encourage people out by setting fire to their house then repeatedly punching them in the face when they try to get out of the door.
http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/c/images/2011/08/12/216490/size0.jpg "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.01 15:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:They get wardec immunity. That alone is massive. Agreed, which is why they should be encouraged out. But you don't encourage people out by setting fire to their house then repeatedly punching them in the face when they try to get out of the door. 9% more tax isn't setting their house on fire, its poking them with a stick. Well yes, most wouldn't be encouraged out by 9% at all, just mission runners who, judging by their reaction to loot reprocessing changes, would explode into an enormous ball of rage and quit. But if they really wanted to encourage people out of NPC corps, they would need to do something to make sure they didn't walk into a firing squad when they did. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12932
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Posted - 2014.09.01 19:20:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:They get wardec immunity. That alone is massive. Agreed, which is why they should be encouraged out. But you don't encourage people out by setting fire to their house then repeatedly punching them in the face when they try to get out of the door. 9% more tax isn't setting their house on fire, its poking them with a stick. Well yes, most wouldn't be encouraged out by 9% at all, just mission runners who, judging by their reaction to loot reprocessing changes, would explode into an enormous ball of rage and quit. But if they really wanted to encourage people out of NPC corps, they would need to do something to make sure they didn't walk into a firing squad when they did.
In two years my corp has been wardeced three times and they were all bad at it. Hardly a firing squad. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.02 00:17:00 -
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I have removed several off-topic, trolling, non-constructive, and personal-attack laden posts from this thread. Please keep it civil and on topic if you're going to reply.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
354
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:19:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:move to lowsec or null and avoid fake pvpers
Bit of a false economy there. Move to low to farm harder. Right.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015 T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346 LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
16
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:25:00 -
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To the OP - if you are still reading this, I 100% sympathize with you. Wardecs and Awoxing are what make highsec corps completely useless in my view, and I would suggest that you never be part of one. If you want to live in highsec (as I do), stick to the NPC Corp, or, even better just make your own 1 man corp with 0% tax (as I have). Wardecs can be handled by just dropping and reforming the corp.
And the great part is that you don't really need the corp to interact with other people. You can still run missions, incursions, mine, haul, etc.. with other people, and CONCORD will protect you if they shoot at you. And you never have to worry about other players forcing you into non-consensual PvP without CONCORD protection. To try to fight the professional pvp wardeccers is just crazy...if you want pvp do some NPSI fleets, or join a nullsec corp. If you really are determined to go highsec corp, try Eve Uni or Brave Newbies, which at least have the numbers to be able to fight off wars.
One mechanic I do find a bit irritating is wardeccs against 1 man corps...why are they allowed? It just means 3 minutes of paperwork to close and reform my corp. How is that a useful activity? Why not just disallow them, since basically no one is going to fight them.
Also, the whole anti-NPC corp sentiment is kind of odd, since you can replicate the experience in a 1-man corp without any troubles. And good luck trying to ban those. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24342
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:44:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Wardecs and Awoxing are what make highsec corps completely useless in my view, and I would suggest that you never be part of one. Do you remember how I told you that you are a newbie griefer? This is yet another case of it. Neither wardecs nor awoxing make highsec corps useless, and new players should strive to join a corp as soon as possible. It is by far the best way of finding your place in the game and have fun in the long term.
Quote:One mechanic I do find a bit irritating is wardeccs against 1 man corps...why are they allowed? Because wardecs are allowed against corps. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9458
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:44:00 -
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Well, for starters, to fix the dec dodging exploit that you make such good use of, dropping corp during a wardec should generate a killright on you. This would accompany a price rework for wardecs.
Secondly, NPC corp taxes should be doubled for anyone who is in one for more than 30 days total. They should be for new players to find their feet, or a temporary home in between being in a real corp.
In addition to this, mission agents should run out of missions for a day, after you've done a few. They should not be infinite from just one person in one place, that makes zero realistic sense and is immersion breaking. That way, people are forced to move around between areas, and cultivate many missions agents in order to be able to do it all day. To compensate for this, faction missions would basically be removed, of course, so no one burns down bridges without meaning to.
Also, CONCORD should be temporarily tankable. They should deal a certain amount of DPS that ramps up every few seconds, and they should not jam their target. Their response time would also be random, between -25% and +25% from what it is now.
And lastly, pirate NPCs should now gatecamp gates in 0.5 and 0.6 space. Nothing too extreme of course, less than 150 dps. I call it, "mid sec".
Because PvP is not a thing that should only happen in lowsec or nullsec. According to CCP themselves, EVE is a PvP game first, last, and always, and that should be properly reflected in highsec. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
16
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:47:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Well, for starters, to fix the dec dodging exploit that you make such good use of, dropping corp during a wardec should generate a killright on you. This would accompany a price rework for wardecs.
Secondly, NPC corp taxes should be doubled for anyone who is in one for more than 30 days total. They should be for new players to find their feet, or a temporary home in between being in a real corp.
In addition to this, mission agents should run out of missions for a day, after you've done a few. They should not be infinite from just one person in one place, that makes zero realistic sense and is immersion breaking. That way, people are forced to move around between areas, and cultivate many missions agents in order to be able to do it all day. To compensate for this, faction missions would basically be removed, of course, so no one burns down bridges without meaning to.
Also, CONCORD should be temporarily tankable. They should deal a certain amount of DPS that ramps up every few seconds, and they should not jam their target. Their response time would also be random, between -25% and +25% from what it is now.
And lastly, pirate NPCs should now gatecamp gates in 0.5 and 0.6 space. Nothing too extreme of course, less than 150 dps. I call it, "mid sec".
Because PvP is not a thing that should only happen in lowsec or nullsec. According to CCP themselves, EVE is a PvP game first, last, and always, and that should be properly reflected in highsec.
Except that some of us like living in highsec and not losing the protection of CONCORD. Why on earth would you design the game to force me into something I don't want to do? Thankfully I think there is 0 chance of CCP doing anything like this. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
16
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Wardecs and Awoxing are what make highsec corps completely useless in my view, and I would suggest that you never be part of one. Do you remember how I told you that you are a newbie griefer? This is yet another case of it. Neither wardecs nor awoxing make highsec corps useless, and new players should strive to join a corp as soon as possible. It is by far the best way of finding your place in the game and have fun in the long term. Quote:One mechanic I do find a bit irritating is wardeccs against 1 man corps...why are they allowed? Because wardecs are allowed against corps.
Meh, I enjoy operating without a corp, and have a great time in the game. If someone wants to join a corp, I see no reason to stay in highsec. Why not go to lowsec/nullsec/wh where the issues of losing CONCORD protection and awoxing are irrelevent? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9458
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:51:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: Except that some of us like living in highsec and not losing the protection of CONCORD.
Nothing takes CONCORD away, just makes it more realistic, less infallible magic space police.
And, as I can see from your forum posting, you are all for realism.
Quote: Why on earth would you design the game to force me into something I don't want to do?
That's rich, coming from the guy who literally just said that if you want PvP, you should be forced to go to low or null.
But then, like all carebears, you are a hypocrite.
Quote: Thankfully I think there is 0 chance of CCP doing anything like this.
Heh, more than you'd think.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of Eden
16
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: Except that some of us like living in highsec and not losing the protection of CONCORD.
Nothing takes CONCORD away, just makes it more realistic, less infallible magic space police. And, as I can see from your forum posting, you are all for realism. Quote: Why on earth would you design the game to force me into something I don't want to do?
That's rich, coming from the guy who literally just said that if you want PvP, you should be forced to go to low or null. But then, like all carebears, you are a hypocrite. Quote: Thankfully I think there is 0 chance of CCP doing anything like this.
Heh, more than you'd think.
Not sure what you mean....I am fine with pvp through suicide ganking in highsec, just not with forcing people to operate without CONCORD protection. The challenge for people like me is to tank long enough until CONCORD arrives. Joining a highsec corp means I would need to deal with wars and awoxing, in which case just tanking for 20 seconds or so is no longer enough, essentially recreating lowsec/nullsec in highsec. I just literally see no benefit to highsec corps - as the OP points out they get wardecced into hopeless wars, and as can be seen from youtube etc., lots of awoxers love to join these corps just to kill people and steal things.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24342
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:55:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Meh, I enjoy operating without a corp, and have a great time in the game. That's nice, but that doesn't mean that highsec corps are useless.
Quote:If someone wants to join a corp, I see no reason to stay in highsec. The reasons to stay in highsec does not change just because you join a corp.
Quote:Why not go to lowsec/nullsec/wh where the issues of losing CONCORD protection and awoxing are irrelevent? Awoxing happens outside highsec as well, you know, and nor any GÇ£issues of losing CONCORD protectionGÇ¥ (never mind that nothing of the kind really exists) are, if anything, massively amplified. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9476
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:57:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: just not with forcing people to operate without CONCORD protection.
Good thing I didn't say that, then.
Quote: I just literally see no benefit to highsec corps - as the OP points out they get wardecced into hopeless wars, and as can be seen from youtube etc., lots of awoxers love to join these corps just to kill people and steal things.
This is because NPC corps do not have the appropriate amount of drawbacks. It should be punitive to live in one, in exchange for the increased safety by being immune to wars. Since your risk is lowered, your reward should be commensurately lowered. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
186
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Posted - 2014.09.02 11:13:00 -
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Npc corps blah blah blah. CCP kicks players from npc corps -> one man corps blah blah blah. You guys never stop whining. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9478
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Posted - 2014.09.02 11:23:00 -
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Good Posting wrote:Npc corps blah blah blah. CCP kicks players from npc corps -> one man corps blah blah blah. You guys never stop whining.
Your name has been ironic for a while. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
186
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:19:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Good Posting wrote:Npc corps blah blah blah. CCP kicks players from npc corps -> one man corps blah blah blah. You guys never stop whining. Your name has been ironic for a while.
That doesn't change the fact that you are probably an adult whining 24/7 on the furums of a video game. There are players that prefer to stay in npc corps, and npc corps exist because ccp wants. It is not so hard to understand, even for you. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1618
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Xuixien wrote:If it's boring then don't do it? You always have the option of coming together and fighting the WarDeccers. I don't get involved in wardeccers. My high sec guys operate from NPC corps and my mains operate from null. Much like many people operating from NPC corps, I don't consider it entertaining to lose an unarmed hauler to 20 12 year olds who then proceed to pat themselves on the back chanting "GF" in local. And therein lies the issue. You can't expect NPC players to choose to put themselves out for nothing. Hence why a 20% tax on NPC corps would be good. They have a reason to want to be in a player corp that offers them less tax.
New character.. start in NPC starter corp. 10% tax.. after 6 months forced to other NPC corp. Tax 50%. YES 50%.
New corps start with a base tax of 20% that goes to concord..... tax is reduced by 1% per member in the corp.
That would push the creation of real corps in game. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7981
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:30:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Xuixien wrote:If it's boring then don't do it? You always have the option of coming together and fighting the WarDeccers. I don't get involved in wardeccers. My high sec guys operate from NPC corps and my mains operate from null. Much like many people operating from NPC corps, I don't consider it entertaining to lose an unarmed hauler to 20 12 year olds who then proceed to pat themselves on the back chanting "GF" in local. And therein lies the issue. You can't expect NPC players to choose to put themselves out for nothing. Hence why a 20% tax on NPC corps would be good. They have a reason to want to be in a player corp that offers them less tax. New character.. start in NPC starter corp. 10% tax.. after 6 months forced to other NPC corp. Tax 50%. YES 50%. New corps start with a base tax of 20% that goes to concord..... tax is reduced by 1% per member in the corp. That would push the creation of real corps in game.
I don't think real corps need 'pushing'. in fact that kind of gerrymandering goes against the freedom that makes EVE what it is.
I don't care that some people stay in NPC corps. I don't care if they make player corps even though that kind of interaction can be better for the overall game. To each his own.
What I don't like is how membership in an npc corp insulates players from a corp game mechanic (war). EVE is supposed to be a player driven game yet here is something that is 'anti' player driven.
Still, NPC corps are probably a 'necessary evil' like high sec itself ie very many players wouldn't have the stomach for the game if it didn't exist (as sad a thought that is, what kind of world do we live in where video game players are intimidated by video games??). But even if that is true, 'necessary evils' should be balanced.
If it were up to me there would be restrictions on what you could fly as a member of all npc corps except FW militias: No freighters, no ships with a jump drive, no pirate ships of any kind, no tech2 mining ships etc. And haulers/miners/ whatever else would have to pay taxes the the same way NPC corp mission runners/explorers have to. |
Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
186
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:44:00 -
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If npc corps were bad for business, ccp would remove them, or force players to leave them. But they are still here, inmune to wardecs and with lower taxes than many null corps. If you don't like it that's fine but there isn't much you can do. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4173
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:53:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:If it were up to me there would be restrictions on what you could fly as a member of all npc corps except FW militias: No freighters, no ships with a jump drive, no pirate ships of any kind, no tech2 mining ships etc. And haulers/miners/ whatever else would have to pay taxes the the same way NPC corp mission runners/explorers have to. So if it were up to you, they'd put more mechanical restrictions in, rather than less?
It has to be asked, would you suggest any changed from the other side or would all negatives fall on the NPC corps? So wardecs, would they remain a cheap method of paying concord not to intervene when you go out ganking?
This is the problem. People are happy to whine on about NPC corp members, yet they are unwilling to make concessions themselves. It's always as if people aren't allowed to suggest any changes without being attacked and told to quit, unless of course that change nukes PvE, in which case it's fine. Why not just scrap PvE altogether and convert EVE into an arena game, then nobody can carebear.
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