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HanRolo
Catastrophic Operations The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.08.27 12:52:00 -
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The Rich irony is that the people deccing the noob corp and telling them they need to grow up are only deccing noob corps because they are just slightly less pathetic than them, if they were actually as good as they thought they were they wouldn't be doing it.
Two thoughts:
CCP NEED to add to the tutorial a solo roam into low/null so people get the idea of dying into their heads and the idea of losses, that's the game, the fact that players like the OP don't understand that is CCP's fault. I remember when I started auto piloting through Low or Null can't remember and thinking it was rude when I got killed :P but I didn't do it again
While deccing is a legitimate tool and not really a grief cannon, unfortunately people like to show their own inadequacies on the internet and that includes internet spaceships. Their own feeling of impotency needs that while they can't succeed in their own RL they take it online and unfortunately into this game and making others feel just for a moment how they feel most of the time. Thus they like finding obvious noobs rather than deccing big alliances or going to Low/Null and facing someone that will fight back and destroy their fragile Evego (I hope you got that) and make them feel more pathetic than they normally feel.
Welcome to the Internets, Welcome to New Eden, Welcome to Eve
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9192
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Posted - 2014.08.27 12:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Marooned, if you will. KKKKHHHHAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!! KKKHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!
It was something like that, yeah. Except I made him sing "A whole new world" from Aladdin before I went to go get him out. Imagine my embarassment that somebody had closed the hole in the meantime. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Kev Ftw
The Filthy Few Break-A-Wish Foundation
26
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:00:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Marooned, if you will. KKKKHHHHAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!! KKKHHHAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!! It was something like that, yeah. Except I made him sing "A whole new world" from Aladdin before I went to go get him out. Imagine my embarassment that somebody had closed the hole in the meantime.
You...you sociopath! Torturer! Rabble rabble rabble! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6603
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:00:00 -
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HanRolo wrote:Everyone is a loser and terrible but me, and CCP needs to fix things for people because using their brains is bad
Hows that for projecting my inadequacies? "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:00:00 -
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Actually the funniest thing about Wardeccing, is that there is atleast 10 to 25 people sitting in Amarr at any given point. All wartargets some of them all the way back from 2003, It would be amazing to see those people come out together can fight back. I wouldn't be able to shoot back because I would be laughing to hard. Not saying shooting back would help anyways 25 V 3 would be:
"Primary the Tengu"
"Wow, that went quick"
"Okay they've all docked up now, Everyone go about yer day."
If people would actually communicate and work together, my corp wouldn't have 90 wardec active at any given point.
A Wardeccers most powerful weapon is the projection that he is invisible and that he has alts to boost him, and alts to rep him. Which in reality, is only during the peak hours when all that is available at once. Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Scipio Artelius: I find your continued optimism for the outcome of the CSM vote endearing |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7799
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:03:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Forming a Corp in eve is saying " yup, we are ready for you, bring it". If ye can't hack the attention, go back to an npc Corp till ye find an established player Corp that either is willing to defend themselves or knows how to evade a war.
Have ye tried fighting back?
Either he hasn't and ran straight to the forums to complain, or he has, lost and ran to the forums to complain lol.
A war dec is the game saying "you now have permission to shoot people". Calling that 'griefing' is like a real life bully saying "I'm gonna bully you, now take this 9 millimeter pistol so you can shoot at me while I bully you".
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HanRolo
Catastrophic Operations The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:04:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:HanRolo wrote:Everyone is a loser and terrible but me, and CCP needs to fix things for people because using their brains is bad Hows that for projecting my inadequacies?
You are about as accurate as your quote
I never said they needed to 'fix' things they need to educate new players about what EVE is about |
Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2540
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:04:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Xuixien wrote:Lan Wang wrote:you seem to be missing the point, 2 week old players dont know any of this stuff on how to avoid pro-wardeccers they too busy trying to leant the basics So start your own training corp, then. In before "I can't be assed". For goodness sakes I spent the time last night to explain to a newbie what a margin scam was, and last week I took some time explaining freighter webbing to some corpies. Me. You will never find anyone more willing to support just about any and all forms of "griefing", and if I can help out newbies, surely someone whose heart aches as much as yours for their plight can help out. THE worst new players are the ones who you spend and hour explaining somethign to as they argue with you as to why it can possibly be like that and then when you are done they say "yeah well I will do it the other way anyway and see what happens"
You forgot "did it their way, and then raged when they got surprise buttseks". One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1574
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:08:00 -
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HanRolo wrote:The Rich irony is that the people deccing the noob corp and telling them they need to grow up are only deccing noob corps because they are just slightly less pathetic than them, if they were actually as good as they thought they were they wouldn't be doing it.
QQ, "real" PvP, "space honor", etcetc.
Of course, fun plays no factor. People only wardec HiSec corps because they suck. Yadda yadda, butthurt narrative, bla bla bla. Epic Space Cat |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7801
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:08:00 -
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HanRolo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:HanRolo wrote:Everyone is a loser and terrible but me, and CCP needs to fix things for people because using their brains is bad Hows that for projecting my inadequacies? You are about as accurate as your quote I never said they needed to 'fix' things they need to educate new players about what EVE is about
Good eve players educate themselves or seek out people to educate them. If the game needs to do this, that means the player is playing the wrong game. EVE is for self-starters not themepark riders.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6606
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:09:00 -
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HanRolo wrote: You are about as accurate as your quoting ability.
I never said they needed to 'fix' things; I said they need to fix tutorials
Ok dude, Im sure they will get right on that. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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HanRolo
Catastrophic Operations The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:13:00 -
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I obviously hit a nerve.
Enjoy your day hope when your mum shouts down to the basement you got what you wanted for dinner |
Valkin Mordirc
133
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:16:00 -
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HanRolo wrote:I obviously hit a nerve.
Enjoy your day hope when your mum shouts down to the basement you got what you wanted for dinner
Says the guy who made his Avatar as pale as the moon, is that a self portrait?
You obviously can't take harsh criticism, nor are you very bright, using rehashed jokes to insult someone. Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Scipio Artelius: I find your continued optimism for the outcome of the CSM vote endearing |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1577
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:17:00 -
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HanRolo wrote:I obviously hit a nerve.
Enjoy your day hope when your mum shouts down to the basement you got what you wanted for dinner
RL insults over a video game.
I rest my case.
Epic Space Cat |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6609
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:17:00 -
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HanRolo wrote:After roundly insulting everyone, I shall now project some myself because I am a unpleasant person. Toodle-oo!
Cya, have a good day! "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7803
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:18:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
THE worst new players are the ones who you spend and hour explaining somethign to as they argue with you as to why it can possibly be like that and then when you are done they say "yeah well I will do it the other way anyway and see what happens"
They should be expunged
Damn you to the depths, for you have awakened in me memories of newbness that I had finally be able to leave in the past lol.
Had one new guy who just didn't get it. I and the guy who brought him to the game would show him what to do,tell him what to do (and what his options were if he wanted to try different things), let him run missions, anoms and plexes with us, gave him a bit of isk to get started etc.
He's spend most of his time telling us why WE were wrong, explaining to us why it's more efficient to have a ship that "could shield boost and armor repair at the same time". Then he'd explain to us how he uses his laser on distant targets, saving his autocannons and missiles for close ranged threats. All of this while complaining that "EVE should give me SP for using the skills because time based skills are stupid".
When he stopped logging in (after 3 hellish weeks of playing and driving us mad), we had a freaking party on teamspeak lol. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6609
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:21:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:
THE worst new players are the ones who you spend and hour explaining somethign to as they argue with you as to why it can possibly be like that and then when you are done they say "yeah well I will do it the other way anyway and see what happens"
They should be expunged
Damn you to the depths, for you have awakened in me memories of newbness that I had finally be able to leave in the past lol. Had one new guy who just didn't get it. I and the guy who brought him to the game would show him what to do,tell him what to do (and what his options were if he wanted to try different things), let him run missions, anoms and plexes with us, gave him a bit of isk to get started etc. He's spend most of his time telling us why WE were wrong, explaining to us why it's more efficient to have a ship that "could shield boost and armor repair at the same time". Then he's explain to use who he use his laser on distant targets, saving his autocannons and missiles for close ranged threats. All of this while complaining that "EVE should give me SP for using the skills because time based skills are stupid". When he stopped logging in (after 3 hellish weeks of playing and driving us mad), we had a freaking party on teamspeak lol.
I know people who mine during war.
And sometimes they are AFK.
And they have done this more than THREE TIMES ALREADY. "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1577
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:22:00 -
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Some rich irony in this thread. Epic Space Cat |
Lord Icicles
The Icicle Cartel
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:23:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:you seem to be missing the point, 2 week old players dont know any of this stuff on how to avoid pro-wardeccers they too busy trying to leant the basics
If they have nobody in their corp who actually knows how eve works they should not be in that corp in the first place.
A common mistake that is done be people who come to eve from other games and start their own corporation together with other new players. They then end up being in a corp where nobody in the corp has a clue what they are doing, which results in all the members running around like headless chicken, delivering easy targets to wardeccers.
If all the people in the corp are new they can only blame themselves for trying to run a corp without being familiar with how eve works. |
Valkin Mordirc
133
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:24:00 -
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I once tried to teach a friend to play, let him join my corp, and tried to teach him the EVEy ways. He was even worse then somebody telling me I was wrong.
He would go. "HUH?" With loud music and screaming children in the background, "Don't tank shield and Armor?"
I would go, "Yeah, they cancel each other out, Armor is slow, but gets a great buffer and low sig radius, Shield is fast but gets a high radius."
The loud music would respond, "EEEEENNNNNNNTTTTEERR NIIIIIGHHHHHTER, EXXIIIIIIIT LIIIIIGHT"
Me. "What?"
Loud music with a small voice, "Yeah okay"
Next day, he loses a harby to a lvl 3 mission that is dual tanked. Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Scipio Artelius: I find your continued optimism for the outcome of the CSM vote endearing |
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Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1583
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:35:00 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: I once tried to teach a friend to play, let him join my corp, and tried to teach him the EVEy ways. He was even worse then somebody telling me I was wrong.
He would go. "HUH?" With loud music and screaming children in the background, "Don't tank shield and Armor?"
I would go, "Yeah, they cancel each other out, Armor is slow, but gets a great buffer and low sig radius, Shield is fast but gets a high radius."
The loud music would respond, "EEEEENNNNNNNTTTTEERR NIIIIIGHHHHHTER, EXXIIIIIIIT LIIIIIGHT"
Me. "What?"
Loud music with a small voice, "Yeah okay"
Next day, he loses a harby to a lvl 3 mission that is dual tanked.
At least he had good taste in music.
Epic Space Cat |
Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:36:00 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: I once tried to teach a friend to play, let him join my corp, and tried to teach him the EVEy ways. He was even worse then somebody telling me I was wrong.
He would go. "HUH?" With loud music and screaming children in the background, "Don't tank shield and Armor?"
I would go, "Yeah, they cancel each other out, Armor is slow, but gets a great buffer and low sig radius, Shield is fast but gets a high radius."
The loud music would respond, "EEEEENNNNNNNTTTTEERR NIIIIIGHHHHHTER, EXXIIIIIIIT LIIIIIGHT"
Me. "What?"
Loud music with a small voice, "Yeah okay"
Next day, he loses a harby to a lvl 3 mission that is dual tanked.
Id like to know your logic on fitting railguns on a tengu
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6613
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:38:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:
Next day, he loses a harby to a lvl 3 mission that is dual tanked.
Id like to know your logic on fitting railguns on a tengu
***Loaded Question Detected*** "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Valkin Mordirc
137
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:39:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote: I once tried to teach a friend to play, let him join my corp, and tried to teach him the EVEy ways. He was even worse then somebody telling me I was wrong.
He would go. "HUH?" With loud music and screaming children in the background, "Don't tank shield and Armor?"
I would go, "Yeah, they cancel each other out, Armor is slow, but gets a great buffer and low sig radius, Shield is fast but gets a high radius."
The loud music would respond, "EEEEENNNNNNNTTTTEERR NIIIIIGHHHHHTER, EXXIIIIIIIT LIIIIIGHT"
Me. "What?"
Loud music with a small voice, "Yeah okay"
Next day, he loses a harby to a lvl 3 mission that is dual tanked. Id like to know your logic on fitting railguns on a tengu
You are SERIOUSLY picking at the bottom of the barrel now aren't you?
EDIT: HOW IS THIS EVEN RELEVANT TO MY POST!? XD Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Scipio Artelius: I find your continued optimism for the outcome of the CSM vote endearing |
Jenni LaCroix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:42:00 -
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
76
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:42:00 -
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Not really you said you tried to teach a friend just asking what your logic was with picking a tengu and puting rails on it, not a troll just a genuine question EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design | Killboard Banners | -áWeb Design | Website Graphics -á
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
122
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:48:00 -
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you should be glade there is a way out of war dec's, it keeps incursion runners nice and safe "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1546
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:50:00 -
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Jenni LaCroix wrote:Eve is not really the most social game.
LOL No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Valkin Mordirc
137
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:52:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Not really you said you tried to teach a friend just asking what your logic was with picking a tengu and puting rails on it, not a troll just a genuine question
I use a Railgu, mainly because it works best with my skills. Simple as that. If I want to try and insta-lock a ship on undock, have a tank decent enough to survive a minute of hard dps, the Tengu is my best option. With Jav I can cover all of undock, and still have good enough tracking and damage to take out most small ships and indy.
It's not meant for a dual. Railgus are not that bad, even when it comes to solo, you should try them out. Psychotic Monk for CSM9
Scipio Artelius: I find your continued optimism for the outcome of the CSM vote endearing |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1051
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:53:00 -
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Griefing Griefers Multiplayer Sandbox Etc. [witty image] - Stream |
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