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Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Demonfist wrote: PLEX are the yardstick of the eve economy. when ganking takes a toll it's price will shift.
No it wont. PLEX demand has nothing to do with ganking at all. you might want to compare it's prices with incidences of burn jita events and rethink your stance. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24260
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:50:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:you're costing someone else 700million at a cost to yourself of 10million. are you really not that bright or simply a troll? Setting aside that your scenario is impossible, are you sure you want to use this unfamiliarity with the concept of GÇ£profitGÇ¥ as your argument?
Quote:PLEX are the yardstick of the eve economy. No, they really aren't. They're just a something players like to whine about. The yardstick for the EVE economy is the GPU. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:50:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Demonfist wrote:Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:using junk 10 mil isk ships to take down a freighter is never unprofitable. Incorrect. you're costing someone else 700million at a cost to yourself of 10million. are you really not that bright or simply a troll? Show me a freighter that only took 10 mil to bring down. show me the point you missed. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:you're costing someone else 700million at a cost to yourself of 10million. are you really not that bright or simply a troll? Setting aside that your scenario is impossible, are you sure you want to use this unfamiliarity with the concept of GÇ£profitGÇ¥ as your argument? Quote:PLEX are the yardstick of the eve economy. No, they really aren't. They're just a something players like to whine about. The yardstick for the EVE economy is the GPU. in eve pvp costing the other guy more IS profit. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20596
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:51:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:this assumes that you need to take any of the contents of the ship in order for killing it to be worthwhile, which isn't how things are in eve. costing the other person is also a motivation. You said nothing about it being worthwhile, you specifically used the word "profitable".
The words profitable and worthwhile do not mean the same thing.
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24260
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:52:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:show me the point you missed. In other words: you can't. You know your argument has failed and now you're desperately grabbing for yet another red herring.
Quote:in eve pvp costing the other guy more IS profit. Incorrect. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Dave Stark
6794
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:52:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Demonfist wrote:you don't understand how supply and demand works, obviously. so here i'll explain it. when it takes more effort for people to start transporting stuff, less people will. when less people do, less stuff is available. when less stuff is available, the price goes up, because there aren't less people wanting it. if you want to force people to bring support fleets to make the economy work that's fine and dandy, just don't ***** about paying the price for your own mess later. that might be true, if people had to transport a minimum of like 5bn isk of stuff per trip and were always profitable to gank. unfortunately, that isn't the case and your argument falls flat on it's face. using junk 10 mil isk ships to take down a freighter is never unprofitable. see above post about costs being passed along.
remind me again how using anything, 10m or not, is profitable when a freighter is empty?
as much as i'd love to sit here and point out the hilarious flaws in every single post of yours, it gets boring when people keep making the same incorrect arguments over and over. surely you people should have come up with some new fantasies instead of repeating the same incorrect arguments in EVERY thread that you start whining in? |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:53:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Demonfist wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Demonfist wrote:you don't understand how supply and demand works, obviously. so here i'll explain it. when it takes more effort for people to start transporting stuff, less people will. when less people do, less stuff is available. when less stuff is available, the price goes up, because there aren't less people wanting it. if you want to force people to bring support fleets to make the economy work that's fine and dandy, just don't ***** about paying the price for your own mess later. that might be true, if people had to transport a minimum of like 5bn isk of stuff per trip and were always profitable to gank. unfortunately, that isn't the case and your argument falls flat on it's face. using junk 10 mil isk ships to take down a freighter is never unprofitable. see above post about costs being passed along. remind me again how using anything, 10m or not, is profitable when a freighter is empty? as much as i'd love to sit here and point out the hilarious flaws in every single post of yours, it gets boring when people keep making the same incorrect arguments over and over. surely you people should have come up with some new fantasies instead of repeating the same incorrect arguments in EVERY thread that you start whining in? because you're the one building replacement freighters. the guy that got sunk either has to pay you or stop his former trade. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24260
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:55:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:because you're the one building replacement freighters. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Dave Stark
6795
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:56:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:because you're the one building replacement freighters. the guy that got sunk either has to pay you or stop his former trade.
except you said taking down a freighter was profitable. not building freighters. make up your mind.
are we talking about shooting freighters, or building them? |
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Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:because you're the one building replacement freighters. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. your english comprehension skills are too poor for me to continue discussion with you. have a nice day. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:58:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Demonfist wrote:because you're the one building replacement freighters. the guy that got sunk either has to pay you or stop his former trade. except you said taking down a freighter was profitable. not building freighters. make up your mind. are we talking about shooting freighters, or building them? connect the dots and get back to me. kkthxbai. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Noobshot Elongur
Spirits of Essence Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.31 16:58:00 -
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Duchess Amarrian wrote:Last night my hauling ship got blown sky high. I was flying a prorator and doing some deliveries. The person that shot me down organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. As i was making the delivery and just 1 second from being docked into station my ship got blown sky high. From what ? a minmitar Battleship that was so many km's away. It took 2 people to stop me.
I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this. I've just had enough of it. Seriously I'm trying to find some fun in this game and seeing that the others always have the edge over miners and haulers in high sec is a real joke. I don't mind if it had happened in low sec and null but when your playing by ccp rules to me it seems there are no rules and high sec is really a joke.
At the very least give miners and haulers some big guns like you give others and maybe will balance things well.
The two that got me are "Luukje" and "Natural CloneKiller". I put up a big bounty on Luk so enjoy your hunting.
cheers
You could always try to learn to be a better pilot, skill up, build a ship that has more tank, and haul/mine with friends in a fleet.... Seriously you're coming off like a special snowflake that Activision/Blizzard likes to encourage in their crap-tastic MMO. |
Dave Stark
6795
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:00:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Demonfist wrote:because you're the one building replacement freighters. the guy that got sunk either has to pay you or stop his former trade. except you said taking down a freighter was profitable. not building freighters. make up your mind. are we talking about shooting freighters, or building them? connect the dots and get back to me. kkthxbai.
or, you could answer the question. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24260
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:01:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:your english comprehension skills are too poor for me to continue discussion with you. have a nice day. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy.
Quote:connect the dots and get back to me. kkthxbai. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy.
You lost the argument and you know. Inventing more and more nonsense to cover up for the previous nonsense makes it more nonsensical, not less, you know that, right? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:your english comprehension skills are too poor for me to continue discussion with you. have a nice day. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. Quote:connect the dots and get back to me. kkthxbai. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. You lost the argument and you know. Inventing more and more nonsense to cover up for the previous nonsense makes it more nonsensical, not less, you know that, right? i could never be as nonsensical as you, troll. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Mag's
the united
17778
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:05:00 -
[767] - Quote
Read the thread and loved it.
Falcon Punches 4TW.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24260
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:05:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:i could never be as nonsensical as you, troll. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Mag's
the united
17778
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:06:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:your english comprehension skills are too poor for me to continue discussion with you. have a nice day. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. Quote:connect the dots and get back to me. kkthxbai. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. You lost the argument and you know. Inventing more and more nonsense to cover up for the previous nonsense makes it more nonsensical, not less, you know that, right? i could never be as nonsensical as you, troll. Except that Tippia isn't trolling and now you've resorted to name calling as you know you were wrong.
Just stop posting.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:i could never be as nonsensical as you, troll. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. you're so cute when you wish you knew what you were talking about and were right. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20598
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:08:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:i could never be as nonsensical as you, troll. You're wrong and you know it, you've now stooped to the level of a toddler throwing a tantrum.
When you can demonstrate that you have an understanding of how the Eve economy works, people may take you seriously. At the moment your posting is the equivalent of a monkey throwing faeces at the wall. The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:08:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Demonfist wrote:Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:your english comprehension skills are too poor for me to continue discussion with you. have a nice day. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. Quote:connect the dots and get back to me. kkthxbai. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. You lost the argument and you know. Inventing more and more nonsense to cover up for the previous nonsense makes it more nonsensical, not less, you know that, right? i could never be as nonsensical as you, troll. Except that Tippia isn't trolling and now you've resorted to name calling as you know you were wrong. Just stop posting. i've resorted to name calling because it was earned. when someone chooses not to see sense under their nose trolling is the most likely cause. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24260
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:09:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:you're so cute when you wish you knew what you were talking about and were right. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:09:00 -
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i don't need to demonstrate anything. the numbers speak for me. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Mag's
the united
17779
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:10:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:Mag's wrote:Except that Tippia isn't trolling and now you've resorted to name calling as you know you were wrong.
Just stop posting. i've resorted to name calling because it was earned. when someone chooses not to see sense under their nose trolling is the most likely cause. We all know why you resorted to it. It's because you were wrong and have lost the argument.
The rest of your posting is now icing on that cake.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:you're so cute when you wish you knew what you were talking about and were right. In other words, the scenario you describe is unprofitable, and ganking is good for the economy. *pats on head and hands a lolli* run along now. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20598
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:11:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:when someone chooses not to see sense under their nose trolling is the most likely cause. Speak for yourself.
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:11:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Demonfist wrote:Mag's wrote:Except that Tippia isn't trolling and now you've resorted to name calling as you know you were wrong.
Just stop posting. i've resorted to name calling because it was earned. when someone chooses not to see sense under their nose trolling is the most likely cause. We all know why you resorted to it. It's because you were wrong and have lost the argument. The rest of your posting is now icing on that cake. cool story bro. i like cake. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
11
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:13:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Demonfist wrote:when someone chooses not to see sense under their nose trolling is the most likely cause. Speak for yourself. Quote:i don't need to demonstrate anything. the numbers speak for me. What numbers would they be? i always do. thanks for the approval after the fact. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Dave Stark
6796
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Posted - 2014.08.31 17:13:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:i don't need to demonstrate anything. the numbers speak for me.
except they don't.
since you still haven't proven how ganking an empty freighter is profitable, as i asked you like... 2? pages ago. |
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