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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5427
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:22:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:He was semi right, just over simplified it. If the logistics involved become too excessive, the opportunity cost associated with it (along with the accounting cost associated with it) will push people out. I'm seeing the effects with my indy contacts who seem to have an increased interest in running L4s instead of mining.
Except that there is no evidence to suggest that ganking has ever, in recent history, made logistics particularly expensive. For example, RedFrog still operates with low, low prices, which implies that they very rarely get ganked, as those prices include an internal insurance pool against ganking.
Also "mining" and "industry" are very different things. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20610
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:23:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Tippia wrote:Quote:when it takes more effort for people to start transporting stuff, less people will. when less people do, less stuff is available. when less stuff is available, the price goes up GǪso more people start doing it, so supply goes up and prices go back down again. So if you're going to accuse people of not understanding something, make sure you've actually thought through what the effects are that you are desperately hoping for. You can troll about a lot of things but to those like myself with an actual degree in economic, your attempts at the subject just come off as sad and pathetic. He was semi right, just over simplified it. If the logistics involved become too excessive, the opportunity cost associated with it (along with the accounting cost associated with it) will push people out. I'm seeing the effects with my indy contacts who seem to have an increased interest in running L4s instead of mining. It's called the supply/demand equilibrium and an increase to costs will cause a shift to the supply curve. The result is a new equilibrium at a higher price level and smaller moving quantity. With many of those previous suppliers moving toward running missions which generate new isk into the game. This will have a multiplier effect on the economies inflation rate as a whole and the player base as a whole is worse off. Now you can dismiss as you which and reply as you like but keep in mind that your reply will be both dismissed and ignored (as in not replied to) on grounds that you quite obviously lack the education and experience on the subject for anything you have to say to hold any weight. Dr Eggnog (Eyjolfur Gudmundsson), former CCP economist and current Rektor (President) of the University of Akureyri would probably disagree. We know he's an economist, we only have your word that you have a degree in economics
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12905
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:23:00 -
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Studio Ghibli wrote:Hi, I'm a Provi-resident.
I like to mine. I mine with friends. We mine together. I discovered that mining in high-sec is kind of dangerous, though.
This morning, I was mining with friends in Providence. I moved there a few years back.
While I was reading this article, an aggressive pilot was reported in a Brutix one system over. We continued to mine.
The Brutix jumped into our system. We continued to mine.
The Brutix warped to me and my miner-friends, and he webbed and scrammed me--so I webbed and scrammed him back, and all three of us deployed our drones against him, and two stealth bombers decloaked and started nailing him with torpedoes.
And then we continued to mine.
The moral of this story?
If you can't do what you're doing where you are, go somewhere where you can do what you want to do.
No one is forcing you to live up in high-sec. If high-sec is untenable, move somewhere else.
And demanding the game cater to your expectations is silly, especially, when it is no mystery that EVE is a very mean and unforgiving game.
Equipping guns is silly, for sure. So tank your ship, or fly a tankier ship. DSTs--not just for deep space anymore.
In other news, looking for more miners. :)
Provi-Residents, they are better than you. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:23:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Demonfist wrote:i'd be happy to defend it and spell out my reasoning to someone that didn't take a page from the republican playbook of deny, obfuscate, propagandize. My first response to you was simply asking for a link to your proof. Why weren't you happy to defend it then? because there is no link to my proof. my proof is more than a decade of marketeering in online games, with an eye focused on markets in the real world to learn how it all works. i know how it works because market laws apply everywhere markets exist. it doesn't matter how you slice it, supply and demand works the same way everywhere and all the time. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5427
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:28:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:because there is no link to my proof. my proof is more than a decade of marketeering in online games, with an eye focused on markets in the real world to learn how it all works. i know how it works because market laws apply everywhere markets exist. it doesn't matter how you slice it, supply and demand works the same way everywhere and all the time.
If you never posted proof for your claims, why have you repeatedly told people to go back and reread your posts to find proof in them?
Demonfist wrote:why don't you scroll back, reread everything i've already typed, accept the fact that i might actually know what i'm talking about, and bow out of a discussion where you've done nothing but say someone is wrong and offer nothing on why or how? "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24269
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:29:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:because there is no link to my proof. So you have none. Good, that was all you had to say.
Quote:my proof is more than a decade of marketeering in online games, with an eye focused on markets in the real world to learn how it all works. i know how it works because market laws apply everywhere markets exist. it doesn't matter how you slice it, supply and demand works the same way everywhere and all the time. Just one problem: none of that proves what he's asking you to prove. I take it you have dug so deep in your attempt at never answering any questions that you've forgotten what it was you had to prove?
Oh, and by the way, what you're alluding to there proves you wrong about the supply/demand-effects of logistics (to say nothing of the logistics-effects of ganking) as well. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine Yulai Federation
156
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:31:00 -
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I'm thinking arguing with someone with such a large ego is a loosing battle. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3855
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:32:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:i just hope code realizes they're harassing the industrial backbone of the game, stealing isk from the people that mass produce it. it's generally not a good idea to **** off a group that could hire every merc outfit that exists if it had a mind to. but hey, i guess everyone needs content.
after two or three years of lying down and doing nothing but weep, the industrial backbone's finally woken to deliver a stern warning. in merely five or so short years, if CODE. hasn't stopped its belligerent yet charming antics, the industrial backbone will strongly begin to consider entertaining the thought of rising up and asking someone else to do their work for them. then CODE.'ll be sorry
you hear me, CODE.? your goose is cooked
BUCKO |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:33:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Demonfist wrote:because there is no link to my proof. my proof is more than a decade of marketeering in online games, with an eye focused on markets in the real world to learn how it all works. i know how it works because market laws apply everywhere markets exist. it doesn't matter how you slice it, supply and demand works the same way everywhere and all the time. If you never posted proof for your claims, why have you repeatedly told people to go back and reread your posts to find proof in them? Demonfist wrote:why don't you scroll back, reread everything i've already typed, accept the fact that i might actually know what i'm talking about, and bow out of a discussion where you've done nothing but say someone is wrong and offer nothing on why or how? ahh, here we go. let the obfuscation begin. i told people to reread my posts so they would get the point i was making, notice that quote of mine doesn't say anything about proof. i'm reasonably sure i never explicitly stated having a link that would contain all of any "proof" that there was. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5427
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:37:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:ahh, here we go. let the obfuscation begin. i told people to reread my posts so they would get the point i was making, notice that quote of mine doesn't say anything about proof. i'm reasonably sure i never explicitly stated having a link that would contain all of any "proof" that there was.
So, now you're saying that you have presented no proof to support your claims?
If you know what you're talking about, surely you can defend your claims. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
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Luukje
The Phoenix Rising
25
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:37:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Demonfist wrote:because there is no link to my proof. my proof is more than a decade of marketeering in online games, with an eye focused on markets in the real world to learn how it all works. i know how it works because market laws apply everywhere markets exist. it doesn't matter how you slice it, supply and demand works the same way everywhere and all the time. If you never posted proof for your claims, why have you repeatedly told people to go back and reread your posts to find proof in them? Demonfist wrote:why don't you scroll back, reread everything i've already typed, accept the fact that i might actually know what i'm talking about, and bow out of a discussion where you've done nothing but say someone is wrong and offer nothing on why or how? ahh, here we go. let the obfuscation begin. i told people to reread my posts so they would get the point i was making, notice that quote of mine doesn't say anything about proof. i'm reasonably sure i never explicitly stated having a link that would contain all of any "proof" that there was.
biggest troll yet. seriously; why you guys bothering replying to someone who must be trolling. surely noone is this delirious he actually believes this crap? |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:39:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:because there is no link to my proof. So you have none. Good, that was all you had to say. i have no link to it means there is no link, not that there is none.
Tippia wrote:Oh, and by the way, what you're alluding to there proves you wrong about the supply/demand-effects of logistics (to say nothing of the logistics-effects of ganking) as well.
got any numbers for that? oh wait, "ganking is good because ganking is good". i forgot. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5427
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:39:00 -
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Luukje wrote:biggest troll yet. seriously; why you guys bothering replying to someone who must be trolling. surely noone is this delirious he actually believes this crap?
I see someone's never been on an american liberal arts college campus. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20610
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:39:00 -
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Luukje wrote:biggest troll yet. seriously; why you guys bothering replying to someone who must be trolling. surely noone is this delirious he actually believes this crap? Boredom
It's also amusing as hell to see him dig himself into a huge hole that he has absolutely no chance of climbing out of. The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12905
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:41:00 -
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Luukje wrote: biggest troll yet. seriously; why you guys bothering replying to someone who must be trolling. surely noone is this delirious he actually believes this crap?
We learned the hard way that every bad idea, no matter how stupid, must be shot down lest CCP do something bad to the game (the barge rebalance the other year for example) Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
930
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:42:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:If bumping is ever made a CONCORD offense, I will invest in salvage drones and MTUs and camp the Jita undock. Which is (again) why I suggested that Bumping should not be a CONCORD offense, rather that victims of a (failed) gank attempt should have a 60 second immunity from Bumping once CONCORD arrives on the scene.
Awesome. So from now on, when I want any ship to be immune to bumping - I simply create a throwaway trial account and log in, shoot my freighter in a free Ibis, and enjoy 60 seconds of being immune to game mechanics.
I can't see anyone abusing that :P |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:43:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Luukje wrote:biggest troll yet. seriously; why you guys bothering replying to someone who must be trolling. surely noone is this delirious he actually believes this crap? Boredom It's also amusing as hell to see him dig himself into a huge hole that he has absolutely no chance of climbing out of. why would i want to dig out of it? i'm thinking bunker basement for a summer home. i just need to dig a bit deeper first, then widen it a bit. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1154
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:43:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Demonfist wrote:i just hope code realizes they're harassing the industrial backbone of the game, stealing isk from the people that mass produce it. it's generally not a good idea to **** off a group that could hire every merc outfit that exists if it had a mind to. but hey, i guess everyone needs content. after two or three years of lying down and doing nothing but weep, the industrial backbone's finally woken to deliver a stern warning. in merely five or so short years, if CODE. hasn't stopped its belligerent yet charming antics, the industrial backbone will strongly begin to consider entertaining the thought of rising up and asking someone else to do their work for them. then CODE.'ll be sorry you hear me, CODE.? your goose is cooked BUCKO
I bet CODE is scared now after this "stern warning" was given.
But seriously it would be nice for miners and haulers to learn some basic game mechanics and not be easy targets. Blowing up AFK miners and auto piloting haulers is boring. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:44:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:If bumping is ever made a CONCORD offense, I will invest in salvage drones and MTUs and camp the Jita undock. Which is (again) why I suggested that Bumping should not be a CONCORD offense, rather that victims of a (failed) gank attempt should have a 60 second immunity from Bumping once CONCORD arrives on the scene. Awesome. So from now on, when I want any ship to be immune to bumping - I simply create a throwaway trial account and log in, shoot my freighter in a free Ibis, and enjoy 60 seconds of being immune to game mechanics. I can't see anyone abusing that :P yes, you would be free to do that. as would other people if they wished to spend the time for something so trivial. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
930
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:44:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Luckily I haven't lost a ship at all! I simply present again the absurd situation caused by the current game mechanics. "So you find it comprehensible that you and your CODE buddies would show up, try to gank an Orca, get it down to 20% structure, have CONCORD come and kill you and give you an aggression timer...and then do nothing as your buddies sit there for 15 minutes bumping it so it can't escape, with CONCORD at the scene, and then watch as the exact same gankers come right back and finish the job? Seriously? That even conceivably makes sense to you? I refuse to believe that anyone could find that a reasonable game mechanic in highsec." Copying the same post over and over doesn't make it true. I addressed all of those points. Laws in different jurisdictions are different. New Eden has different laws than the real world, and New Eden's capsuleer police (CONCORD) have an extremely limited, reactionary role which fits the laws of New Eden. If you perform an act of illegal aggression in HS, CONCORD destroys your ship, docks you sec status, and gives you a 15min time out. That is their entire function. Their function has nothing to do with protecting anyone, simply with creating cost for illegal aggression in HS. This is how the game was always intended to work and is how it works now.
This is the problem with Veers, and something that I have not figured out how to work around. You bring up valid points, he simply ignores them and repeats himself. Over and over again. It's depressing.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20613
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:46:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Luukje wrote:biggest troll yet. seriously; why you guys bothering replying to someone who must be trolling. surely noone is this delirious he actually believes this crap? Boredom It's also amusing as hell to see him dig himself into a huge hole that he has absolutely no chance of climbing out of. why would i want to dig out of it? i'm thinking bunker basement for a summer home. i just need to dig a bit deeper first, then widen it a bit. Keep on digging then, would you like to borrow a 360 excavator? The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24270
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:47:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:ahh, here we go. let the obfuscation begin. Or, better yet, how about you don't try to obfuscate and instead just either provide the proof you hinted at or admit that it doesn't actually exist?
First, people asked you for proof. Then you said that they could just scroll back to findGǪ somethingGǪ you aren't able to say whatt. Then you said that the proof people were asking for couldn't be linked. Do you even know what it is people are asking you to prove?
Quote:i told people to reread my posts so they would get the point i was making, notice that quote of mine doesn't say anything about proof. So you're now firmly saying that you do not have the proof he was asking for.
Quote:i have no link to it means there is no link, not that there is none. So why can't you provide it if it exists?
Quote:got any numbers for that? Sure. Go back and watch the FF2008 presentation on the effects of not-yet-hulkageddon. Or watch the market history surrounding the isotope interceptions. Or watch the effects of OTEC. As for the benefits of ganking, you already proved those GÇö go back and read your own posts. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:49:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Luckily I haven't lost a ship at all! I simply present again the absurd situation caused by the current game mechanics. "So you find it comprehensible that you and your CODE buddies would show up, try to gank an Orca, get it down to 20% structure, have CONCORD come and kill you and give you an aggression timer...and then do nothing as your buddies sit there for 15 minutes bumping it so it can't escape, with CONCORD at the scene, and then watch as the exact same gankers come right back and finish the job? Seriously? That even conceivably makes sense to you? I refuse to believe that anyone could find that a reasonable game mechanic in highsec." Copying the same post over and over doesn't make it true. I addressed all of those points. Laws in different jurisdictions are different. New Eden has different laws than the real world, and New Eden's capsuleer police (CONCORD) have an extremely limited, reactionary role which fits the laws of New Eden. If you perform an act of illegal aggression in HS, CONCORD destroys your ship, docks you sec status, and gives you a 15min time out. That is their entire function. Their function has nothing to do with protecting anyone, simply with creating cost for illegal aggression in HS. This is how the game was always intended to work and is how it works now. This is the problem with Veers, and something that I have not figured out how to work around. You bring up valid points, he simply ignores them and repeats himself. Over and over again. It's depressing. this is the intarwebz. it's a valid tactic. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers Rim Worlds Protectorate
150
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:52:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Try again. Don't need to buddy, what I said is fact. Sorry if you don't agree.
This is the ROLE I wish to see CCP in. Stand your Ground, You handle the game aspect and let the players run as they should in a Sandbox game. Whether we kick the castle down or build it, it's up to us. I am so happy finally seeing CCP and a very respect Dev ontop of that taking a Solid stance for once. Actually the last few "releases" I have seen them stand their ground and I love it. Start dealing with everyone and not Catering to the Tearfilled Entitled. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
13
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:54:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Demonfist wrote:i just hope code realizes they're harassing the industrial backbone of the game, stealing isk from the people that mass produce it. it's generally not a good idea to **** off a group that could hire every merc outfit that exists if it had a mind to. but hey, i guess everyone needs content. after two or three years of lying down and doing nothing but weep, the industrial backbone's finally woken to deliver a stern warning. in merely five or so short years, if CODE. hasn't stopped its belligerent yet charming antics, the industrial backbone will strongly begin to consider entertaining the thought of rising up and asking someone else to do their work for them. then CODE.'ll be sorry you hear me, CODE.? your goose is cooked BUCKO I bet CODE is scared now after this "stern warning" was given. But seriously it would be nice for miners and haulers to learn some basic game mechanics and not be easy targets. Blowing up AFK miners and auto piloting haulers is boring. then why do it at all? Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20613
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:54:00 -
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Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Try again. Don't need to buddy, what I said is fact. Sorry if you don't agree. This is the ROLE I wish to see CCP in. Stand your Ground, You handle the game aspect and let the players run as they should in a Sandbox game. Whether we kick the castle down or build it, it's up to us. I am so happy finally seeing CCP and a very respect Dev ontop of that taking a Solid stance for once. Actually the last few "releases" I have seen them stand their ground and I love it. Start dealing with everyone and not Catering to the Tearfilled Entitled. Off topic, how many of your ships are named Airwolf?
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24270
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:57:00 -
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Demonfist wrote:then why do it at all? Because if food flies into your mouth, you chew on it even if the process of it getting there isn't as exciting as an all-evening cook-off. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
14
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Demonfist wrote:then why do it at all? Because if food flies into your mouth, you chew on it even if the process of it getting there isn't as exciting as an all-evening cook-off. remind me to throw food at you sometime. after adding rat poison. Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Demonfist
Inner Ring Enterprises
14
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:59:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:Try again. Don't need to buddy, what I said is fact. Sorry if you don't agree. This is the ROLE I wish to see CCP in. Stand your Ground, You handle the game aspect and let the players run as they should in a Sandbox game. Whether we kick the castle down or build it, it's up to us. I am so happy finally seeing CCP and a very respect Dev ontop of that taking a Solid stance for once. Actually the last few "releases" I have seen them stand their ground and I love it. Start dealing with everyone and not Catering to the Tearfilled Entitled. Off topic, how many of your ships are named Airwolf? you've got to admit that show had a catchy theme to it Awesome self-quote in 3... 2... 1... Ok, GO!
"The only launchers i'm interested in having as part of +PV+P are the ones that fire ze missilez!" -- Demonfist |
Celly S
Concord Attraction Services The Ditanian Alliance
273
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Posted - 2014.08.31 19:01:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec? CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive. If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you. Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Any time you undock your ship, regardless of the sec status of the space you are in, you put your ship at risk"
This simple truth is even given to pilots by the starter agents... (not in the direct form of the quote above though, but the message is there nonetheless) so my question is why would anyone forget that?
And where the hell is your head to play one of the most (situation-based) realistic games in the world and forget that there are criminals out there who want to shoot you???
I know I sound like the people who say HTFU, but I'm not trying to portray it that way, I simply am shocked that so many folks are acting as though they should have their hand held in the game...
o/ Celly Smunt
Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
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