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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20423
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:20:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:However, what is being said about high sec is quite an honest reaction. So vilification of the OP for it can only be done by those who like to do this sort of thing - our beloved gankers (read: low attention span, low intelligence, no insight, no way to make long-term plans or arrangements.) Nope, like Jenn I'm not a ganker, I mission, I mine, I trade etcetera, in short I'm what many would call a bear.
I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
195
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:26:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/yu13SMh.gif |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
468
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:27:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:You can do something about it yourself. No need to ask CCP for help.
In fact, it is the whole point of the game. OP did not read patch notes.
OP - When did CCP say they were going to protect you? Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7815
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:37:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Vyl Vit wrote:However, what is being said about high sec is quite an honest reaction. So vilification of the OP for it can only be done by those who like to do this sort of thing - our beloved gankers (read: low attention span, low intelligence, no insight, no way to make long-term plans or arrangements.) Nope, like Jenn I'm not a ganker, I mission, I mine, I trade etcetera, in short I'm what many would call a bear. I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.
That's why I say there are 2 kinds of 'bear (3 if you count the hairy man-loving types, but lets go with 2 for right now).
The pvp-Sandbox 'bear is the guy who likes PVE but understands that he's playing an open world PVP game and thus is a target for people who want to pvp (whether the 'bear wants to or not). The sandbox bear (SandBear? off to the copyright office I go) LOVES this and measures his playing ability by how much he is able to carebear WHILE thwarting the evil machinations of the dastardly PVP freak.
It's like being a Gazelle that finds a pride of Lions and starts twerking in front of them while singing 'can't touch this' (or maybe, 'can't eat this') then runs away.
Then there's "themepark bear", the guy who, after a long day of flipping burgers or some other menial job, comes home and wants nothing more than to kick back and feel like a hero because he can kill some wild boars in Azeroth or fly his mining ship in EVe and give those evil rocks (who he imagines all look like his boss) a right good rogering.
The IDEA that someone can come and remind him that he is indeed a loser is so galling that he must take action, that action being 'run to forums and complain' but somehow not 'stop giving 15 dollars a month to sandbox pvp gankfest game makers'. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
411
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:45:00 -
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One of these things is worthy of respect. One of these things is not. Seriously, not trolling here. I used to be like Jenn and Jonah, then I was lured to the darkside by promises of cookies. I still haven't gotten any cookies, but I've had a great deal of fun. I consider myself a bear in recovery, only by bathing myself in the blood of my own kind can I achieve a higher state... Even before I learned which end of the blaster meant business, however, threads like this gave me facepalm induced migraines. A fundamental misunderstanding of what EVE means is at work here, and it's something that needs to be quashed. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4269
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:47:00 -
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Duchess Amarrian wrote:Last night my hauling ship got blown sky high. I was flying a prorator and doing some deliveries. The person that shot me down organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. As i was making the delivery and just 1 second from being docked into station my ship got blown sky high. From what ? a minmitar Battleship that was so many km's away. It took 2 people to stop me.
I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this. I've just had enough of it. Seriously I'm trying to find some fun in this game and seeing that the others always have the edge over miners and haulers in high sec is a real joke. I don't mind if it had happened in low sec and null but when your playing by ccp rules to me it seems there are no rules and high sec is really a joke.
At the very least give miners and haulers some big guns like you give others and maybe will balance things well.
The two that got me are "Luukje" and "Natural CloneKiller". I put up a big bounty on Luk so enjoy your hunting.
cheers
First of all, welcome to EVE. No, CCP is not doing anything about anything that is entirely within your own power to do something about. What you experienced was EVE working as intended. It's up to you to learn from it and mitigate the odds of it happening again. Anything else is your own failure. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Paranoid Loyd
1596
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:52:00 -
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LOL, 7 Bil "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Luukje
The Phoenix Rising
2
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:53:00 -
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Having a 7.1bil kill is nice, but all this drama is so much better than a bit of isk |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20425
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: It's like being a Gazelle that finds a pride of Lions and starts twerking in front of them while singing 'can't touch this' (or maybe, 'can't eat this') then runs away.
Quote: a right good rogering. We'll make a Briton of you yet. Resistance is futile, you will be reassimilated into what's left of the British Empire...
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4269
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:59:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:...British Empire...
For those that don't know, this is what is meant by a contradiction in terms.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:07:00 -
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Sequester Risalo wrote:Misunderstood Genius wrote:You can get around this with - an insta-undock off-grid (especially in the major trading hub systems) - using a cloaky Blockade Runner
If you (and some others) had bothered to actually read the thread before posting your valued opinion, you would have noticed that the lady did in fact fly a blockade runner and was in the process of docking when the incident happened. Please explain how insta-undocking would have helped in that situation. Thank you
Thanks for the hint. I missed that.
- a bookmark at undock or backside of the station at 0
The insta-undock hint will help next time not to get alpha'd when undocking and aligning.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20428
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:09:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:...British Empire... For those that don't know, this is what is meant by a contradiction in terms. Otherwise known as an oxymoron
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Mythrandier
Corporate Scum Cult of War
452
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:19:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.
Never (or at least not often enough) have more accurate words been uttered in GD.
If more of highsec thought like you sir, we wouldnt see as many terrible posts as the op.
Ps. Love the new avatar Jonah. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." --á D. Adams. |
Boom McCondor
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
33
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:20:00 -
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The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20430
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:21:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
I am however a realist, one that appreciates that I am playing a PvP game, and takes steps to mitigate the chances of becoming a victim; that is the difference between a carebear and a bear.
Never (or at least not often enough) have more accurate words been uttered in GD. If more of highsec thought like you sir, we wouldnt see as many terrible posts as the op. I like carebears, they make me look good
Quote:Ps. Love the new avatar Jonah. TY
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Paranoid Loyd
1598
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:22:00 -
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Oh, I saw you "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Boom McCondor
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
33
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:23:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Boom McCondor wrote:The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread I saw you, just wasn't prepared Can you lock that fast? That ship was in warp before it even uncloaked! |
Paranoid Loyd
1598
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:24:00 -
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Boom McCondor wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Boom McCondor wrote:The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread I saw you, just wasn't prepared Can you lock that fast? That ship was in warp before it even uncloaked! Depends, probably not though. Nice to see you adapted. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20430
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:26:00 -
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Boom McCondor wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Boom McCondor wrote:The fun will come weeks later when you have a properly fitted ship and you manage to slide right by that guy who ganked you. Happened to me last night on an alt, and the ganker is actually one of the posters in this thread I saw you, just wasn't prepared Can you lock that fast? That ship was in warp before it even uncloaked! The moment you moved you appeared on the overview, regardless of what you see on the screen.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Boom McCondor
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
33
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:27:00 -
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I don't carry anything SUPER expensive, and Avoid the Loyd is kind of a fun game.
EDIT: Thanks Jonah. I never really knew exactly when you could be seen. Not really something I paid attention to. |
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Elusive Panda
Gendry's Leech Nerfed Alliance Go Away
66
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:29:00 -
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An instant dock bookmark or even just a tactical off the station to scout would have saved your ship and your cargo.
Now, remind me why CCP should protect you when there were clear and easy step to shield yourself? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4497
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:37:00 -
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Seven billion collateral. And it wasn't even paid good. The fail started at the accept button. From Jita no less. This smells more like money laundering. Like those noob-ships full of PLEXes. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Quenchless Bloodlust
107
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:44:00 -
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"I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this."
That is very interesting can you verify this op? |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2864
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:48:00 -
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Duchess Amarrian wrote:Last night my hauling ship got blown sky high. I was flying a prorator and doing some deliveries. The person that shot me down organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. As i was making the delivery and just 1 second from being docked into station my ship got blown sky high. From what ? a minmitar Battleship that was so many km's away. It took 2 people to stop me.
I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this. I've just had enough of it. Seriously I'm trying to find some fun in this game and seeing that the others always have the edge over miners and haulers in high sec is a real joke. I don't mind if it had happened in low sec and null but when your playing by ccp rules to me it seems there are no rules and high sec is really a joke.
At the very least give miners and haulers some big guns like you give others and maybe will balance things well.
The two that got me are "Luukje" and "Natural CloneKiller". I put up a big bounty on Luk so enjoy your hunting.
cheers
When you hit the "dock" button, the game is supposed to warp you into docking range of the station and dock you, without any chance for you to be caught. But there is a bug: Sometimes the game warps you too far away from the station to dock immediately, and you are vulnerable for several seconds. I have heard that this can be petitioned, and you may get your ship back. BUT you will not get any dropped loot back. (That has always been true for any ship loss due to a bug or exploit.)
One way to get around this bug is to make a bookmark as close to the station as you can. When you warp to that bookmark you will always be in docking range and can dock quickly.
Another trick is to place a bookmark well away from the station, but in an odd direction. A direction where there are no stargates. The gankers tend to collect in the area where ships drop out of warp, so their short range, high damage weapons will do a fast kill before CONCORD shows. If you come to the station from an odd direction, they will all be out of range.
So until CCP fixes this bug, everyone should make a "Dogleg" bookmark and a "Quick dock" bookmark at every station they frequent. Make alot of them, copy them, share them. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
190
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:50:00 -
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CCP already has taken care of this issue in the form of tanking modules and cloaking devices. Seriously, how do you get blown up in high-sec when your ship has a covops cloak?
Still, hopefully you will prepare for this possibility in the future so it isn't all too bad. |
Phugoid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:00:00 -
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wait a minute....ur toon is old enough to afford a 7 bil coll? and you are crying about not being protected?
I take back my sympathies! Flugzeugf++hrer |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24109
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:12:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:When you hit the "dock" button, the game is supposed to warp you into docking range of the station and dock you, without any chance for you to be caught. No, it's not. It's simply supposed to warp you to the station, and then dock. Warping works as normal, docking works as normal, being caught in-between the two works as normal. If your warp lands you within <2,500 of the docking radius, that is workings as normal too because that's how wtz always works.
Quote:But there is a bug: Sometimes the game warps you too far away from the station to dock immediately, and you are vulnerable for several seconds. That is not a bug, but standard warp behaviour. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
808
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:27:00 -
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Duchess Amarrian wrote:...organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. Are you telling us here, that you didn't protect your hauler by accepting the contract with an alt? Remove insurance. |
Grim Hood
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
132
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:33:00 -
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMNG2h4CQAI2dtY.jpg Grim Progression - Watch me get kersploded!
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2864
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:46:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:CCP already has taken care of this issue in the form of tanking modules and cloaking devices. Seriously, how do you get blown up in high-sec when your ship has a covops cloak?
Ive had it happen. You uncloak when you are dumped 800 meters off the station. Before your ship moves that last 300 meters and starts docking, you get exploded.
Hence: The need for quick dock bookmarks. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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