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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
946
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Posted - 2014.09.04 09:53:00 -
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So.
A bunch of bot-aspirants are fighting over ISK? Never see that happen in high-sec :) |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
946
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Posted - 2014.09.04 09:55:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:What's an incursion ? Does it involve shooting bad people ?
From what I understand it features a bunch of AFK mining, fighting over loot, and a feeling of being superior to regular mission runners.
Also, hilarious bling fits that tend to get killed while AFK :P |
Amyclas Amatin
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
319
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:20:00 -
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They should tie incursions with corp mechanics, like in faction-warfare. You should need to register a corp (and be decced to hell and back) to run them.
I spent my first YEAR in eve sitting on the incursion isk fountain and playing the game for free. For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ High-Sec has a future, But do You? Buy a Mining Permit to Secure yours today. |
Uppgrayyedd
New Eden's Rebels
15
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Posted - 2014.09.04 17:02:00 -
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I hate this story. It sucks from every perspective. I hope you guys biomass because of this loot drama. Go away. **** you. |
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
98
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Posted - 2014.09.11 14:08:00 -
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It has little to do with people being but hurt, rage or drama(it never really has in Incursions, that is only the opinion of people that don't know how Incursions work behind the scene). If anything it is a brilliant move of TVP role playing the white knights of incursions and getting the full community support to bully her biggest competition when it comes to HQ fleets out of a fleet over a fairly insignificant amount of ISK. It is a very very good PR stunt, capitalizing on Noble Ranges habit of role playing a massive **** most of the time in public and get rid of her biggest competition under the pretext to enforce proper behaviour between channels and selling them self to the masses as the good guys of Incursions that get all the support of her "noble" goal.
If anything C&P, this is a great display of how to grief somebody and selling it as a good thing to the masses what even gives you community support and lets the party that you grief look like the bad guys, in perfect execution.
Lilly Naari wrote:Zeus Maximo wrote:While wearing a pirate patch I ask this question;
Who are the largest incursion running alliances/corporations? TVP, ISN and DTF Although If you plan on ganking or pirating I wouldn't go anywhere near DTF (Ditanian Fleet), They are all 0.0 PvP Alliance members and are the premier Elitest Incursion Fleet (Even their highsec Branch).
It is TDF not DTF, and this information is wrong on so many levels, it is not even funny. The only reason nobody ganks TDF hulls is that they don't fly anything worth ganking for the most part. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5559
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:40:00 -
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Jill Antaris wrote:Lilly Naari wrote:TVP, ISN and DTF
Although If you plan on ganking or pirating I wouldn't go anywhere near DTF (Ditanian Fleet), They are all 0.0 PvP Alliance members and are the premier Elitest Incursion Fleet (Even their highsec Branch).
It is TDF not DTF, and this information is wrong on so many levels, it is not even funny. The only reason nobody ganks TDF hulls is that they don't fly anything worth ganking for the most part.
Got to love her for trying to play the Friends in Nullsec card, though. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1307
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Posted - 2014.09.11 15:54:00 -
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Lilly Naari wrote:
TVP, ISN and DTF
Although If you plan on ganking or pirating I wouldn't go anywhere near DTF (Ditanian Fleet), They are all 0.0 PvP Alliance members and are the premier Elitest Incursion Fleet (Even their highsec Branch).
Oh NOES!
We all know that nullsec PVPers are much better because they live in nullsec. Right?
No?
Oh.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries Chelonaphobia
454
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Posted - 2014.09.11 16:23:00 -
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I have heard of these FTD folks. Great bunch. They do deliver.
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Immortal Chrono Pimpin
Big Rifters Inc.
110
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Posted - 2014.09.12 02:36:00 -
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Legit why are people so upset, When the server got DDosd and you lost something ccp sees the socket close and replaces it.
That 20b he took pff drop in the bucket why is everyone such a moody child. |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1312
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Posted - 2014.09.12 02:58:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:I have heard of these FTD folks. Great bunch. They do deliver.
Then send my mother some goddamn flowers you jerk! Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
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Damon Messer
Emergent Mining Et Al.
64
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Posted - 2014.09.12 11:44:00 -
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TVP are being douches by popping moms. But it is a legit action. They can do that. |
Isabela Valentine
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
62
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Posted - 2014.09.13 14:57:00 -
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Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:Legit why are people so upset, When the server got DDosd and you lost something ccp sees the socket close and replaces it.
That 20b he took pff drop in the bucket why is everyone such a moody child.
This pretty much. If you have the basic problem solving of a 5 year old you'd create a ticket with CCP and it would all be reimbursed. Instead everyone cried like a bunch of babies and now incursions are dropping like crazy. People should just go make their isk somewhere else until everyone gets their panties unbunched.
There's also a catch 22 with this whole plan of theirs. Ya they're really "sticking it" to ISN, but they're doing the same to their own pilots. GG TVP. You sure showed them lol |
Naomi Niktos
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.09.13 16:16:00 -
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ITT we learn: Incursion runners are whiny entitled manchildren and therefore the very best trolling target. My alt is going into an incursion runner corp, shouldn't be too hard to troll them into disbanding. |
Anya Klibor
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
769
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Posted - 2014.09.13 23:20:00 -
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Isabela Valentine wrote:Immortal Chrono Pimpin wrote:Legit why are people so upset, When the server got DDosd and you lost something ccp sees the socket close and replaces it.
That 20b he took pff drop in the bucket why is everyone such a moody child. This pretty much. If you have the basic problem solving of a 5 year old you'd create a ticket with CCP and it would all be reimbursed. Instead everyone cried like a bunch of babies and now incursions are dropping like crazy. People should just go make their isk somewhere else until everyone gets their panties unbunched. There's also a catch 22 with this whole plan of theirs. Ya they're really "sticking it" to ISN, but they're doing the same to their own pilots. GG TVP. You sure showed them lol
Loot that drops from a destroyed ship is not reimbursed under any circumstances. The only thing you get back is the hull, rigs, and modules that were also destroyed. We're recruiting! :D |
Celestal
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.09.14 02:13:00 -
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If ISN`s plan was to make the make the majority of incursion pilots to think of tvp as complete aholes then really it was a perfect plan .
Seriously does tvp expect the rest of the incursion community to explode in moral outrage against ISN ? , and if so do what ?
They do not have the support of the community , in fact if you speak to pilots who fly with them they have very little support from their own `members` ( of course these same members if asked by tvp leadership will say they support them ).
I know that their actions have already caused several players who relied on their incursion income to plex their accounts to leave eve . |
Vampyr3
Vampyr3 Holdings Inc.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:48:00 -
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Just released : Sitting in the Dock Up in Bei, by Alyssa Du Gard - http://youtu.be/LbWZ5vdISLg
Kinda about the subject at hand...
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Missed Steak
TVP and ISN tears factory
0
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Posted - 2014.09.15 19:15:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5022605#post5022605 |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
679
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Posted - 2014.09.15 23:13:00 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:..... Incursions..... Who..... Cares......?
Last time I did any incursions was during the live events and we (as a corp) tried our hand at it a little bit. |
Kamii OhnoKazii
Target Valhalla Project
6
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:25:00 -
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Greetings All,
I thought I would shed some light on some of this as most people have this correct = Tears + Stupid (maybe option E?)... this event (?) basically is all about a few people slapping each other (Slap Fight) over personal ego issues and mutual loathing (nothing like personal loathing to motive folks to create content).
The "Official Line" you can get from the various groups, sip of the CoolAid provided, and enjoy with a bit of a laugh... and yes Incursion runners are "farmers" not fighters; so this could take months, years, decades, extend into the next CCP game, be placed on tomb stones, and finally left as an unfinished bad blood between ethic groups that could spark major territorial warfare far into the future of humanity... so hey never ending content.
Now, the real deal is this... TVP = close incursions because (1) faulty game mechanics that allow it, and (2) because they can, and if can, why not? - so does. End of story.
Motivation: Mutual Hatred in leadership = annoyance to the masses, e.g. nothing new to human behavior.
What to do: 1. Ignore, because not involved and have other EVE life, or even a life. 2. Watch, enjoy, popcorn. 3. Participation, because that bored, or interested, or passion, or paid to participate and will wash off later afterwards. (this has several sub groups) - trolling - crying - and the every popular, trolling while crying, or the inverse of... must include "broh", and "come at me" to do correctly.
GANKING: Ok, this is rather a pointless endeavor for trying to solve anything, so if you go into it to think this will be effectual or even worth the time in a positive way, forget it, it's not and it won't be - HS incursion ganking has been tired and failed, it's not possible to really get in any good fights, much like trying to kick a tortoise.
But, there is a bright side, If you have a sense of humor and wish to just have some fun with it:
1. Someone could (and has) stolen the loot can form the mother ship site apparently - that was creative and funny, and shooting it might be just as fun... 2. you could bump logi with MWD ships off grid in fleets and see what that does... kind of funny if they go flying 100000kms off - so much for reps. 3. you could fit up a ships and contest incursions fleets and just take there payouts, but this would mean bring a runner... 4. you could shoot the ore can or ore running in Vanguard sites... but no one is doing that. 5. you could buy up all the faction modules in HS and cause a massive price increase - someone did to this... that was funny... 6. ... or you could do whatever you like that works for you... and maybe that would be fun.
What this really comes down to is this: Content, provided for everyone, and to be enjoyed on every level in any way you like, I am, it's been fun so far... and note, to the TVP people... my nado, that has been trolling you, has no online modules... so while it was fun chasing you all over, I couldn't have shot you.... but it was a fun three hours... sorry you docked up also... |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1336
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Posted - 2014.09.19 22:28:00 -
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Closing excursions isn't a faulty mechanic. Its supposed to be a thing. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
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Kamii OhnoKazii
Target Valhalla Project
6
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Posted - 2014.09.19 23:10:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Closing excursions isn't a faulty mechanic. Its supposed to be a thing.
True it is, closing them and resetting the timers and all that, but this case shows it's open to abuse and use as a community grief tool, which is fine with me, but it does seem to break the whole idea.
The logical extension of this is:
3-4 motivated persons, with ISBoxer fleets can and at some point will shut down the whole incursion thing as a troll on the whole thing, it would not be hard, and in fact it's being done manually by TVP, and was being done by DIN... it's rather a "nuclear" option on the field of grief trolling, so I totally support someone with the means to take to it to this level.
For a Community to survive now, the stakes just got higher... you need a:
CORE ISBoxer MOM Site popping option, and a influence grinder option... speed grind, then immediately pop... and re do this.
Also, you need the base logistics at each constellation, which isn't as hard as it might sound, given that this is just a booster ship, and a few cans of ammo and all, the amount of stuff can be streamlined.
and boxer fleets can make billions in an hour for people willing to setup the whole thing, much like boxer miners do it, but the pay outs are much better.
There are two ways CCP could fix this issue, not sure on the over all effect, but two things would stop it flat
1. make influence 100x or 1000x or more time to grind it down. 2. make it so that the mom doesn't show up until the end of incursions. -also- (the fun option)... Turn Concord off in the actual Site, and let nature take it's course... as in the old days... "We would pop each other's logi, and the last logi standing, that fleet wins the site... and scoop the loot as well... might be very interesting!)
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5586
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Posted - 2014.09.20 00:18:00 -
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Kamii OhnoKazii wrote:3-4 motivated persons, with ISBoxer fleets can and at some point will shut down the whole incursion thing as a troll on the whole thing
So... why would this be a game mechanical problem?
You seem to have a problem with other player's actions affecting you. That that can happen is one of the core design principles of EVE. If you don't like someone's actions' effect on you, stop them. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1336
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Posted - 2014.09.20 02:23:00 -
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So I just have to ask...
Why not wardec them? Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10103
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Posted - 2014.09.20 08:03:00 -
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Kamii OhnoKazii wrote:My boobs hypnotise you .... ..... hypnotise ....... ........... hypnotise ........
Meta Portrait: umm, looks like youre 'busy', young love, sexual and sensual, soft&warm, OMG naked???, are you kissin or blo..., so much feels, most sexually suggestive pic I've seen. I make it feel real... Strapless Tops! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5036238#post5036238 |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1739
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Posted - 2014.09.20 09:24:00 -
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just because certain things happen in eve is no reason not to retaliate when those certain things happen to you.
Epic Space Cat |
Kamii OhnoKazii
Target Valhalla Project
6
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Posted - 2014.09.20 21:06:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Kamii OhnoKazii wrote:My boobs hypnotise you .... ..... hypnotise ....... ........... hypnotise ........
... Hmmmm.... nice fake quote... but it inspired a forum sig: "Don't hate me because my bra is digitally augmented... " Don't hate me because my bra is digitally augmented...-á |
Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2014.09.21 06:01:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:So I just have to ask...
Why not wardec them? Refer to the 50 page thread in GD. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1666
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Posted - 2014.09.21 06:22:00 -
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It seems like enough people are upset about this crap that they should be paying me or someone like me to shoot someone. However that clearly isn't happening so I am not sure how this subject is still relevant to C&P.
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1342
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Posted - 2014.09.21 17:22:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Leto Thule wrote:So I just have to ask...
Why not wardec them? Refer to the 50 page thread in GD.
No. This thread is in C&P, so explain why nothing is exploding.... Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Ripard Teg sucks. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
130
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Posted - 2014.09.21 20:10:00 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:This won't happen if incursions only happen in low/nullsec.
your right, they would become another least used mechanic in eve like lvl 5s, and would provide another huge income boost for the power blocs that want to just shoot each others ships
Leto Thule Quote:
So I just have to ask...
Why not wardec them?
it is hard to war dec a incursion runner when they have no care for being in a corp or their corp history, in 24 hrs i had a guy just 5 corps just to avoid a war dec, the only way to get the inc runners (i know some that could use an attitude adjustment) would be to gank them "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
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