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Grrrr TMC
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:27:00 -
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1) It is a Goonswarm propaganda site, pretending to be a 3rd party news website. They constantly releases biased articles to help promote themselves resulting in a large segment of otherwise ignorant readers to have a rather skewed view of nullsec politics.
2) Goonswarm are rampantly homophobic and racist. This thread says it all. By supporting the site you support a homophobic and racist culture within EVE.
3) Special treatment for special people. They ban people for using hate speech in the comments section and delete the comments.... unless they are a Goon. Then they do not get banned and do not have their comments deleted. In fact, the person calling them out on it typically has it happen to them instead. http://i.imgur.com/fhRxicb.png Let's not mention ALOD articles. If you are a Goon or a friend, you can make horrible ALOD worthy mistakes and have it completely ignored. If you are not a Goon or not a friend, one mistake and you are featured.
4) They release poorly reviewed articles. From missing facts in battle reports to outright falsehoods like the article on the EVE server and the powergrid, there is very little in the way of professional review.
5) Sperging articles. So many sperging articles. Example? Every single traffic control. We wants news, not the opinion of raging homophobes.
6) The owner of the site - who profits from our visits - is a cyberbully. He prepared a powerpoint presentation - while sober - in order to will a player in EVE to kill himself in RL. Are you really satisfied funding the livelihood of such a man? You are funding his life and his racist, homophobic alliance each time you visit TMC.
I have held these opinions for a few months now but continued to read TMC as the alternatives were mostly rubbish (EN24) or did not update with the same frequency (CrossingZebras). At this point I believe the quality of TMC has decreased too substantially however. When combined with the special treatment of certain members and illogical application of rule enforcement and moral stances, committing to a boycott becomes the obvious choice.
If you agree with the points here but do not care to boycott the site, do consider using an AdBlocker or related tools to ensure the profits from the site are minimized. It sends the right message.
Cheers and happy discussing! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9462
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:30:00 -
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Thanks for reminding me, I hadn't gotten my newsfeed yet tonight. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1285
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:30:00 -
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*grabs lawnchair and popcorn*
I too, am eager to see the calm, reasonable discussion of this topic.
*evil smile* |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9462
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:31:00 -
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Oh, and in before lock.
If you wanted people to listen to your ranting, you might have wanted to post it on something besides a worthless NPC alt. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Captain Dongle Plunderer
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:32:00 -
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Getting in on the ground floor of a great thread with a wonderful OP. |
General Nusense
Not Posting With My Main
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:35:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and in before lock.
If you wanted people to listen to your ranting, you might have wanted to post it on something besides a worthless NPC alt.
yeah you should have used an alt in another corp like this nerd did. he never posts with his main.
on a serious note this thread will fill with tmc backers and the usual cfc parrots that will attack you for posting with an npc alt instead of actually reading your post and constructively debating it.
also inb4 the
"grrrrgooons" bullshit.
Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6269
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:38:00 -
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/never don't use Adblocker
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Grrrr TMC
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:46:00 -
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It's not like I'm wrong.
Goon members use hate speech as imaged in point 3 constantly on that website. Yet you can observe moderators quoting others and giving them warnings and/or bans for the saying the same things.
That's TMC for you. Special treatment, delusions, projection, propaganda. Oh, and homophobia. So much homophobia.
If you are an adult with an ounce of self-respect you owe it to yourself to boycott the website. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
1288
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:48:00 -
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.....screw it, I'm gonna need to order a pizza for this one |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11136
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:48:00 -
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Grrrr TMC wrote:Sperging articles. So many sperging articles. Example? Every single traffic control. We wants news, not the opinion of raging homophobes.
Here's another example Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
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Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
32
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:49:00 -
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Propaganda distribution is an absolutely wonderful tool. Don't get salty that one coalition has devoted the time and resources to be better at it than whoever you actually back.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11136
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:51:00 -
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Propaganda is useless if the audience in mind aren't the enemies themselves. My own alliance doesn't have the most stellar reputation in the game yet we're still pretty ******* successful. Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Grrrr TMC
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:53:00 -
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Funny enough, I didn't even touch on the fundamentally disrespectful nature of many of their writers, even when ignoring things like racism, homophobia and the like. Consider Mittens article about Marlona Sky recently. Dedicating a large portion of an article to outright insulting a community leader in EVE because..... he had a different opinion about sov than him.
Anyways that's really not even the half of it. We're talking EVE Online, people talk smack, it happens. It's the delusions, the projection and the propaganda that really put the nail in the coffin.
It's supposed to be a news website, but instead it's mostly a collection of neckbeards chest-beating to one another while sperglords jerk eachother off in the comments section. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11136
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:54:00 -
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Grrrr TMC wrote:Marlona Sky [...] community leader
the only person who thinks marlona sky is a community leader is marlona sky himself
back to FHC with you! Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
4860
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:56:00 -
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If you don't like the site you don't have to visit it. And I don't know if a few bigots posting hate speech makes an entire alliance rampantly homophobic and racist. But maybe I just don't have an obvious ax to grind. |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
32
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:56:00 -
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Andski wrote:Propaganda is useless if the audience in mind aren't the enemies themselves. My own alliance doesn't have the most stellar reputation in the game yet we're still pretty ******* successful.
Useless? How so? A neutral consumer that is swayed by propaganda may be converted to a future friend or foe. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12942
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:56:00 -
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My my this is a bitter one.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11136
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:59:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:Useless? How so? A neutral consumer that is swayed by propaganda may be converted to a future friend or foe.
Yet despite all of the vitriol flung at our alliance on a daily basis, ~70-80% of our members are from the general EVE community and not from Something Awful. Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:02:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:If you don't like the site you don't have to visit it. And I don't know if a few bigots posting hate speech makes an entire alliance rampantly homophobic and racist. But maybe I just don't have an obvious ax to grind.
It doesn't. That said, if hate speech goes unchecked and unpunished by leadership, then that's a pretty deplorable ship that you're running. |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:05:00 -
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Someone sounds butthurt..
Anyway it's their website they can post what ever they like.. (unless its something truly bad like kiddy ****) |
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2190
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:08:00 -
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Posting in a TMC advertising thread started by a Goon alt. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:09:00 -
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Andski wrote:Charax Bouclier wrote:Useless? How so? A neutral consumer that is swayed by propaganda may be converted to a future friend or foe. Yet despite all of the vitriol flung at our alliance on a daily basis, ~70-80% of our members are from the general EVE community and not from Something Awful.
From what I have seen in other games (too new to EVE to comment on your particulars), many sludge players simply gravitate to the most powerful group in the game. When you lose that power, the transients jump ship en masse.
Propaganda doesn't generally work well with these transient sludge players, but it is effective if you target it properly at higher value players to make them embarrassed to associate with their current affiliations. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12944
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:09:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:If you don't like the site you don't have to visit it. And I don't know if a few bigots posting hate speech makes an entire alliance rampantly homophobic and racist. But maybe I just don't have an obvious ax to grind. It doesn't. That said, if hate speech goes unchecked and unpunished by leadership, then that's a pretty deplorable ship that you're running.
You honestly think this happens? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11136
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:10:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:It doesn't. That said, if hate speech goes unchecked and unpunished by leadership, then that's a pretty deplorable ship that you're running.
We don't have a toxic level of racism or homophobia in our alliance. We're actually pretty good at weeding out the unrepentant stormfront types from our membership, and it's a process that doesn't involve director action at all (we just troll them out because the stormfront types tend to be pretty thin-skinned, ironically) Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2707
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:12:00 -
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Biting dat bait like a mofo! Invalid signature format |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
32
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Charax Bouclier wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:If you don't like the site you don't have to visit it. And I don't know if a few bigots posting hate speech makes an entire alliance rampantly homophobic and racist. But maybe I just don't have an obvious ax to grind. It doesn't. That said, if hate speech goes unchecked and unpunished by leadership, then that's a pretty deplorable ship that you're running. You honestly think this happens?
I have no opinion on any particular corporation since it would be based on complete ignorance. I was merely saying that if a corporation/alliance has a "few bigots posting hate speech", I would condemn/not associate with the corporation/alliance if its leadership doesn't do anything about it. |
Vyl Vit
714
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:35:00 -
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What's there to discuss? Were you stupid enough to let your browser hit a Goonrun website? I guess now you know better...unless you actually registered and posted on it...THEN? You may need treatment. I hope it's not too late. You did run a browser cleaner afterward? Your browser has a better chance of not being scarred than do you, my friend. Unless of course you ARE a Goon, ginning up your posting quota to please your masters.... In that case neither therapy, nor a strong cleaner will help you. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Tweek Etimua
The Paragons
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Posted - 2014.09.02 06:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:Grrrr TMC wrote:Sperging articles. So many sperging articles. Example? Every single traffic control. We wants news, not the opinion of raging homophobes. Here's another example Not related just hate the term Homophobe......Just cause you disagree with something doesn't mean you're afraid of it.
Carry on.
Edit: Bigot-: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.
Now hatred I understand to be a bad thing but minis the word hatred and you have 99.9% of the human race.
Just saying |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
923
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Posted - 2014.09.02 06:09:00 -
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WTS Tin Foil hats! |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
127
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Posted - 2014.09.02 06:14:00 -
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Wait, so it's Ok to hate "homophobes" and bigots? Than goodness thek cultural marxists have left us with someone to hate! |
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