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Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
202
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Posted - 2014.09.02 11:45:00 -
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Long story short :
I have ransomed people for PLEX (as an ingame item) before. But how does that work as actually gifting it as added in Hyperion
Lets say I got a nice 2b Mission Boat scrambled and my prey is willing to pay ransom.
Would it be legit to ransom him for game time. i.e. give me a month of game time now or get wasted ?
As its basically still more or less a standard in game item.
Of course just taking the money and buying plex works too, though I am wondering what GMs / The EULA has to say about that.
Especially if I would decide to not honor the ransom and kill the pleb anyway (just wondering).
Thanks.
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Velicitia
Arma Artificer
2614
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:28:00 -
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you're ransoming for an ingame item, should be OK, provided that the victim is not being forced to pay RL cash for the PLEX.
"PLEX or your ship dies" (contract)
OR "PLEX or your ship dies" "I have 750m ISK ... take that instead?" "OK"
should both be OK exchanges in the event of shooting the other guy anyway. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
202
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Posted - 2014.09.02 12:31:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:you're ransoming for an ingame item, should be OK, provided that the victim is not being forced to pay RL cash for the PLEX.
"PLEX or your ship dies" (contract)
OR "PLEX or your ship dies" "I have 750m ISK ... take that instead?" "OK"
should both be OK exchanges in the event of shooting the other guy anyway.
11/10 Almost as good as putting ice on your head to help people with ALS
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3525
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:31:00 -
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There are definitely rules against encouraging someone to spend RL money on PLEX for scams. I assume the same rules apply to both honored and dishonored ransom situations.
If the client is not spending RL money but already possesses the PLEX or can source it without spending RL cash that rule won't apply. That rule exists to protect CCP from credit card fraud, as scam clients are considered a high chargeback fraud risk.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4518
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:08:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Edit - file a petition to ask a GM.
this, best be safe =][= |
Don Purple
The Pursuit of Happiness
462
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:23:00 -
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Sabriz got it. Telling someone to go buy you plex or else can get you into good trouble. Go for isk, then "assets" if plex comes up at that point I do not see an issue. I am just here to snuggle. |
DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
612
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Posted - 2014.09.04 12:33:00 -
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Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice. |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
475
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Posted - 2014.09.04 12:35:00 -
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I always ask for isk if i do ransom anyone. I've never forced somebody to buy the PLEX to contract to me, that's a bit harsh tbh.
Hell, i've even settled for a simple prostitute contracted to me to end a war.
What can i say, i'm cheap and easy. -áMiko Sunji:-á "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4173
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:30:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice. I can't be bothered to go searching for it right now, but a dev did make a statement once that if people were encouraging people to buy a plex or GTC to then scam them, it's against the rules, since you are requesting they spend actual money to do so. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1251
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:36:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice. I can't be bothered to go searching for it right now, but a dev did make a statement once that if people were encouraging people to buy a plex or GTC to then scam them, it's against the rules, since you are requesting they spend actual money to do so.
Where the **** have you been? This place has been devoid of lengthy arguments for a week now! Killboard
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4623
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:41:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice. I can't be bothered to go searching for it right now, but a dev did make a statement once that if people were encouraging people to buy a plex or GTC to then scam them, it's against the rules, since you are requesting they spend actual money to do so. Where the **** have you been? This place has been devoid of lengthy arguments for a week now! he got lost in gd, take him back! =][= |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1251
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:44:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
he got lost in gd, take him back!
Ralph, I wouldnt wish that on anyone.
Well, maybe that moron that posted about the ten T3-tanking rattlesnake. Killboard
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Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
205
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:47:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:[quote=Ralph King-Griffin]
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Well, maybe that moron that posted about the ten T3-tanking rattlesnake.
lol what
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Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
205
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:49:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4626
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Posted - 2014.09.04 14:05:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Leto Thule wrote:[quote=Ralph King-Griffin]
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Well, maybe that moron that posted about the ten T3-tanking rattlesnake. lol what seconded, lol what!? =][= |
Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1252
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Posted - 2014.09.04 15:04:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4966308#post4966308
This jackass.
He posted several times regarding that he could survive an AF attack of FOURTY (LMFAO) and tank ten t3's with this ridiculousness. Look at his other posts if you want a good time. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
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Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
207
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Posted - 2014.09.04 15:05:00 -
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4175
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Posted - 2014.09.04 15:09:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice. I can't be bothered to go searching for it right now, but a dev did make a statement once that if people were encouraging people to buy a plex or GTC to then scam them, it's against the rules, since you are requesting they spend actual money to do so. Where the **** have you been? This place has been devoid of lengthy arguments for a week now! Nothing exciting has been going on here for a while. I still read stuff here, just nothing that entices much of a response. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
1252
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Posted - 2014.09.04 15:10:00 -
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Sorry, sorry.
I get carried away sometimes.
To the point, yes, I think it should be a legitimate ransom tactic, no different than requiring the ransom to be a PLEX contracted to you.
My two cents. Killboard
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Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
207
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Posted - 2014.09.04 15:25:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice. I can't be bothered to go searching for it right now, but a dev did make a statement once that if people were encouraging people to buy a plex or GTC to then scam them, it's against the rules, since you are requesting they spend actual money to do so. Where the **** have you been? This place has been devoid of lengthy arguments for a week now! Nothing exciting has been going on here for a while. I still read stuff here, just nothing that entices much of a response.
I think you are beautiful though.
I get carried away some times as well.
almost like we have something in common right s-s-senpai leto chan ?
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3536
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:47:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:Telling someone to go buy a plex and pay it as rasome is not wrong. How he chooses to buy it is his choice.
This is not correct.
GMs definitely disallow doing this in the context of scamming as it exposes CCP to significant RL fraud risk (credit card chargebacks).
A dishonored ransom probably falls under this ruling.
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Lady Areola Fappington
2193
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Posted - 2014.09.05 09:10:00 -
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Pretty sure demanding a PLEX for ransom is fine.
Demanding someone purchase the PLEX with RL cash tho, likely not cool.
Just don't do something stupid like "A PLEX or you die!" "But I don't have a PLEX!" "OK well log in to acct management and buy one I'll wait." Kentucky Derby losers are not turned into Ikea meatballs. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev did not accidentally blow up vowels in his own name. The chupacabra does not deliver presents on Cinco De Mayo. Anytime minutes donGÇÖt let you call the future. |
Solecist Project
9813
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:33:00 -
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Who needs gametime?
Force them to make screenshots in their underwear. (screenshot! avatar! :p) ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
208
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:35:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Who needs gametime?
Force them to make screenshots in their underwear. (screenshot! avatar! :p)
I actually heard there is eve ****. ~Russians~
I wonder how lucrative that is.
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Solecist Project
9813
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:40:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Who needs gametime?
Force them to make screenshots in their underwear. (screenshot! avatar! :p) I actually heard there is eve ****. ~Russians~ I wonder how lucrative that is. edit : why do they censor p o r n Yes, there is. Besides my underwear glitch ... ... which seems to make quite a few people happy ... ... people share lots of creation-stage undie pics ...
... and there are literally thousands of erotic roleplayers.
I can tell. *cough*
Most people are absolutely fine and no perverts at all, btw. That's a common bias against erotic roleplayers. I, myself, am/was a rather sensual type. Who would have thought. No whips and stuff.
I do not know how many there are, of course ... ... but I have learned to spot them in the wild! :D ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
208
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:44:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Luwc wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Who needs gametime?
Force them to make screenshots in their underwear. (screenshot! avatar! :p) I actually heard there is eve ****. ~Russians~ I wonder how lucrative that is. edit : why do they censor p o r n Yes, there is. Besides my underwear glitch ... ... which seems to make quite a few people happy ... ... people share lots of creation-stage undie pics ... ... and there are literally thousands of erotic roleplayers. I can tell. *cough*Most people are absolutely fine and no perverts at all, btw. That's a common bias against erotic roleplayers. I, myself, am/was a rather sensual type. Who would have thought. No whips and stuff. I do not know how many there are, of course ... ... but I have learned to spot them in the wild! :D
would you give me a oil massage in my gallente quarters. Please pretend to be the damsel
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Solecist Project
9814
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:46:00 -
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Luwc wrote:would you give me a oil massage in my gallente quarters. Please pretend to be the damsel
You want me to pretend to be her ? With that face? Are you nuts?
Also, I do not know how to give a massage. :p
Can't we just f... ? d: ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
209
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Posted - 2014.09.08 07:48:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Luwc wrote:would you give me a oil massage in my gallente quarters. Please pretend to be the damsel
You want me to pretend to be her ? With that face? Are you nuts? Also, I do not know how to give a massage. :p Can't we just f... ? d:
I am not gonna rescue that chick again
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Solecist Project
9814
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Posted - 2014.09.08 08:01:00 -
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Luwc wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Luwc wrote:would you give me a oil massage in my gallente quarters. Please pretend to be the damsel
You want me to pretend to be her ? With that face? Are you nuts? Also, I do not know how to give a massage. :p Can't we just f... ? d: I am not gonna rescue that chick again What the f.... Ikr? Who in hell would KIDNAP HER anyway?? ~ Signatures are too small for the huge amount of crap I can throw at you ~ ~ In case of emergency, blame a random person. He *will* get arrested! ~ I AM FORCING LITERALLY FORCING YOU YOU TO REREAD THIS! GÖí GÖÑ THE CODE ALWAYS WINS-áGÖÑ GÖí |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
209
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Posted - 2014.09.08 08:03:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Luwc wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Luwc wrote:would you give me a oil massage in my gallente quarters. Please pretend to be the damsel
You want me to pretend to be her ? With that face? Are you nuts? Also, I do not know how to give a massage. :p Can't we just f... ? d: I am not gonna rescue that chick again What the f.... Ikr? Who in hell would KIDNAP HER anyway??
I guess one can doggy her. avoid seeing the face
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