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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:04:00 -
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Has CCP signed onto this? If not will they?
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/thousands-of-developers-sign-plea-for-tolerance-in-gaming-community/
An excerpt:
"Thousands of developers sign plea for tolerance in gaming community" ... "We believe that everyone, no matter what gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion or disability has the right to play games, criticize games and make games without getting harassed or threatened."
In one of the links there is a list of signatories, including: Emily Knox (CCP Games) Josh Bayer (CCP Games)
but how about CCP as a company? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Hicksimus
Torgue
285
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:11:00 -
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What's with this trend of everybody being thin-skinned. I'd rather have CCP focus on what matters(spaceships) than sit around holding hands singing kumbaya. Do you have it? |
Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
188
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:14:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Has CCP signed onto this? If not will they? http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/thousands-of-developers-sign-plea-for-tolerance-in-gaming-community/An excerpt: "Thousands of developers sign plea for tolerance in gaming community" ... "We believe that everyone, no matter what gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion or disability has the right to play games, criticize games and make games without getting harassed or threatened." In one of the links there is a list of signatories, including: Emily Knox (CCP Games) Josh Bayer (CCP Games) but how about CCP as a company?
someone clearly doesn't know what the outrage at Zoe Quinn is and believes the SJWs when they claim it's because she's female..... |
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
72
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:16:00 -
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YAWN |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6282
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:21:00 -
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Not this SJW lip-service crap again.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Lugia3
Intentionally Dense Easily Excited
1234
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:22:00 -
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When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
Remove Sov! |
Noriko Mai
1449
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:23:00 -
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Ice bucket challenge already over? Man, this attention seekers are fast. |
Dave Stark
6806
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:25:00 -
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I miss the time when the correct course of action was to just punch the kid being mean...
those were the days. |
Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:28:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. Literally defending bigots. |
Dave Stark
6809
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:31:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Lugia3 wrote:When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. Literally defending bigots. haha, no.
try again. |
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Don Purple
The Pursuit of Happiness
449
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:36:00 -
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None of those things matter to our community, if we are dicks I can assure you its not becasuse you prefer to sleep with other men.
Give us some credit, we just love to blow **** up and steal and troll our brothers and sisters.
Ive been to irl meetups with ex wartargets, people i have ganked and it was a blast. We are all part of eve :D
I am just here to snuggle. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4523
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:37:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Steppa Musana wrote:Lugia3 wrote:When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. Literally defending bigots. haha, no. try again. Or don't, I'd prefer the npc didn't. =][= |
Dave Stark
6815
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:37:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Steppa Musana wrote:Lugia3 wrote:When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. Literally defending bigots. haha, no. try again. Or don't, I'd prefer the npc didn't. Sorry, I was light on entertainment tonight and saw my chance to remedy that. |
Torneach Structor
Showup Fleet
58
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:38:00 -
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I don't get it.
Is this one of those things that developed because of another thing that really wasn't about the thing that people are saying it's about but it doesn't matter anymore because the media don't care about anything but rabble-rousing which leads to ratings and thus to more advertisement revenue?
EDIT: But really though, do we need a pledge/petition that basically amounts to "Don't be a jerk."? Like, isn't that what parenting/society is for, to teach people that? |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7993
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:40:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Lugia3 wrote:When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. Literally defending bigots.
Nonsense, Luigia is telling it like it is.
There are loads of thin skinned people all over the internet and in the world in general. like someone promised them that everyone would be 'nice' to them. BS.
As a black man (don't let the white girl avatar fool you) from Texas I say to those people a hearty HTFU because they don't know what discrimination is, this internet stuff ain't ****.. Thankfully I don't either, having been born after the time where I would have gone to jail for drinking from the wrong water fountain like my dad and granpa did.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6282
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:41:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Lugia3 wrote:When harvesting some poor sap's tears, I don't care what gender or race they consist of. Leave internet spaceships out of your thin skinned ermagurdyouoffendedmeprepareforlawsuit culture. Literally defending bigots.
Do things become that crystal clear for anyone once they are nailed up on a cross, or just you? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Trixie Lawless
Wayland Industrial Holdings
5
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:56:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Has CCP signed onto this? If not will they? http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/thousands-of-developers-sign-plea-for-tolerance-in-gaming-community/An excerpt: "Thousands of developers sign plea for tolerance in gaming community" ... "We believe that everyone, no matter what gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion or disability has the right to play games, criticize games and make games without getting harassed or threatened." In one of the links there is a list of signatories, including: Emily Knox (CCP Games) Josh Bayer (CCP Games) but how about CCP as a company?
I have an idea, how about everyone knock the sand out of their (you get the idea) and walk it off if they get their delicate little feelings hurt. Or better yet, don't expect the entire world to be comfortable with whatever abbreviation you choose to be. As long you you aren't physically harmed then that's all you should expect. Besides...its the interwebz...who cares what a person you will probably never meet thinks.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4583
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:16:00 -
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Because a 'plea' will impress people that enjoy being jackasses and/or are habitually intolerant. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Komi Toran
Paragon Trust The Bastion
190
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:17:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:"Thousands of developers sign plea for tolerance in gaming community" You know, the most intolerant people on the Internet seem to be those that always preach about tolerance. It's generally because they are confused as to what "tolerance" really is, thinking it means no one ever says a mean thing or gives you the stink eye, and everyone always celebrates whatever you think makes you a special snowflake. This attitude, of course, is incompatible with actual tolerance, which is why the original word must be maimed to conform with IngSoc. |
Trixie Lawless
Wayland Industrial Holdings
6
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:18:00 -
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Komi Toran wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:"Thousands of developers sign plea for tolerance in gaming community" You know, the most intolerant people on the Internet seem to be those that always preach about tolerance. It's generally because they are confused as to what "tolerance" really is, thinking it means no one ever says a mean thing or gives you the stink eye, and everyone always celebrates whatever you think makes you a special snowflake. This attitude, of course, is incompatible with actual tolerance, which is why the original word must be maimed to conform with IngSoc.
I think...I want...to hug you. |
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
677
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:22:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:I miss the time when the correct course of action was to just punch the kid being mean...
those were the days. So if you put an arse whooping on a bully does that make you a bully buliler? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4525
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:29:00 -
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Komi Toran wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:"Thousands of developers sign plea for tolerance in gaming community" You know, the most intolerant people on the Internet seem to be those that always preach about tolerance. It's generally because they are confused as to what "tolerance" really is, thinking it means no one ever says a mean thing or gives you the stink eye, and everyone always celebrates whatever you think makes you a special snowflake. This attitude, of course, is incompatible with actual tolerance, which is why the original word must be maimed to conform with IngSoc. glad im not the only one thinking it . =][= |
Marsha Mallow
1487
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:29:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:"We believe that everyone, no matter what gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion or disability has the right to play games, criticize games and make games without getting harassed or threatened." This request isn't unreasonable and quite honestly it shouldn't even need to be presented as a 'plea for tolerance'. It should be a demand for intolerance of abuses that cross into RL based upon all of the above. As per Komi's remarks, I've seen that argument before, but intolerance of intolerance doesn't have to be expressed violently or oppressively.
Do and say what you like in cyberspace - and try wriggle out of it via GMs/Mods - but in the real world, a lot of this crap is classed as a hate crime. Or would earn you a smack in the gob. There's some sort of mass delusion here where a minority (?) seem to think spending hours creating a boobylicious avatar and sucking up to other likeminded opinionated attention seekers entitles them to be complete knobs, as well as guarantees some sort of anonymity. Newsflash gobshites: if you threate to **** and murder people IRL (and their families), chances are one of you is going to get caught at some point and taught what those **** jokes really mean. If you revert to a juvenile state online, you're gonna get censored eventually and you'll probably be among the dubious group responsible for accelerating the process by being so hilariously outrageous about it. Grrr... (funnily enough one of those articles mentions the Quinn ex was deleted on SA).
If people are spiteful enough to ruin lives over the internet (and think they can get away with it) it's about time they start being taught a few lessons about how RL works, and where the line is. That's nothing to do with being politically correct, or thin-skinned. It's operating a zero tolerance approach to abnormal levels of abuse. If you don't like it, **** off to a community that tolerates it IRL.
Jenn aSide wrote:As a black man (don't let the white girl avatar fool you) from Texas I say to those people a hearty HTFU
As a non-white woman from Yorkshire (don't let the white girl avatar fool you, it's a wig), I'm already 'ard enough tyvm. Some of the stuff said online would result in 'death by handbag' here. That's just the grannies. Some of the creatures here might do well writing their remarks on a sammich board then strolling casually through any major city IRL in their underpants, just to see what happens. I'd like to see how well the witty forum retort would apply.
Vincent Athena wrote:but how about CCP as a company? +1 would like to see a statement on this DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Trixie Lawless
Wayland Industrial Holdings
6
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:38:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:"We believe that everyone, no matter what gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion or disability has the right to play games, criticize games and make games without getting harassed or threatened." This request isn't unreasonable and quite honestly it shouldn't even need to be presented as a 'plea for tolerance'. It should be a demand for intolerance of abuses that cross into RL based upon all of the above. As per Komi's remarks, I've seen that argument before, but intolerance of intolerance doesn't have to be expressed violently or oppressively. Do and say what you like in cyberspace - and try wriggle out of it via GMs/Mods - but in the real world, a lot of this crap is classed as a hate crime. Or would earn you a smack in the gob. There's some sort of mass delusion here where a minority (?) seem to think spending hours creating a boobylicious avatar and sucking up to other likeminded opinionated attention seekers entitles them to be complete knobs, as well as guarantees some sort of anonymity. Newsflash gobshites: if you threate to **** and murder people IRL (and their families), chances are one of you is going to get caught at some point and taught what those **** jokes really mean. If you revert to a juvenile state online, you're gonna get censored eventually and you'll probably be among the dubious group responsible for accelerating the process by being so hilariously outrageous about it. Grrr... (funnily enough one of those articles mentions the Quinn ex was deleted on SA). If people are spiteful enough to ruin lives over the internet (and think they can get away with it) it's about time they start being taught a few lessons about how RL works, and where the line is. That's nothing to do with being politically correct, or thin-skinned. It's operating a zero tolerance approach to abnormal levels of abuse. If you don't like it, **** off to a community that tolerates it IRL. Jenn aSide wrote:As a black man (don't let the white girl avatar fool you) from Texas I say to those people a hearty HTFU
As a non-white woman from Yorkshire (don't let the white girl avatar fool you, it's a wig), I'm already 'ard enough tyvm. Some of the stuff said online would result in 'death by handbag' here. That's just the grannies. Some of the creatures here might do well writing their remarks on a sammich board then strolling casually through any major city IRL in their underpants, just to see what happens. I'd like to see how well the witty forum retort would apply. Vincent Athena wrote:but how about CCP as a company? +1 would like to see a statement on this
Or any online threats can be treated as online threats regardless if the person was black, brown, purple, polka dot, gay, straight, confused, or whatever. Why does it have to be a "plea for tolerance"? Most any kind of person is already tolerated by the vast majority of other people. You don't have to agree with something to tolerate it. The whole "plea for tolerance" thing whether in this game or RL is simply the group who thinks they are special wanting you to not only tolerate them, but to accept them or even agree with them. It's politically correct garbage and has no place in any video game.
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RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:39:00 -
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Such a plea or demand, or whatever, would be redundant and therefore of no value to those that would agree and accept such a stance without the plea being voiced, and it would be lost on those that don't care one way or the other. If something happens in an online game that stumbles into a RL issue, call local law enforcement if such an incident is actually illegal. If it stays in game, no harm no foul.
If someone wants to join in on making such a plea to help themselves feel good about themselves, more power to them. 6 / half dozen. So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter. |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1688
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:42:00 -
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EVE Online doesn't need this SJW cissgender white male privilege otherkin crap.
I'm gonna leave this here. Epic Space Cat |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2365
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:44:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Dave Stark wrote:I miss the time when the correct course of action was to just punch the kid being mean...
those were the days. So if you put an arse whooping on a bully does that make you a bully buliler? hey, while an eye for an eye makes the world go blind, just because you slapped me in the other cheek doesn't mean you don't get to be slapped on the other one.
with a baseball bat. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
2366
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:52:00 -
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also, before this is locked, I'm gonna quote myself here:
Quote: Here's what I follow:
I read arguments form both sides, and both sides can be, deplorable, subhuman sickening and wrong. Issue is, these ones tend to be the ones that gather more attention.
Mysoginy exists on both sides, as does mysandry.
The few, rational and coherent voices that pop up on all this are drowned in a sea of rage for the sake of raging, and any attempt to actually be helpful is labeled as "profiteering" (feminists calling out the guys who invented a nail polish that can detect **** drugs as "profiting and creating a false sense of security" is the best example of this) or "betrayal to the cause.", because **** different opinions about the same issue, if you're not with me, you're my bitter enemy.
In the end, what I see is pretty much children using the internet as a means to gather attention (by themselves or exploiting someone's image and twist it), not to the cause, but to themselves, and a sensationalist press, looking to up their ratings gives them a hand, instead trying to get to the truth.
Hey, but that's my opinion on this whole, sordid and deplorable mess.
for reference [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5373
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:59:00 -
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BS will fly whenever there is money in it for someone.
If this SJW crap spreads to Eve, it will be used as a metagaming tool. I have seen it happen twice already with the petition system.
You want to kill this game, this'll do it. It'll be the one thing that busts the most cherished reputation of the game. It will be said that "The SJWs finally brought Eve Online to heel". Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Clementina
Coreli Corporation
168
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Posted - 2014.09.02 21:07:00 -
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Community members should treat each other amicably without regard for race, gender, sexual orientation, social class, or what have you. Also game developers should treat their employees, contractors, and customers professionally and without favor or disfavor to those with those characteristics as well. However you will not get to a world where that happens through the path of the Social 'Justice' Warrior. They are too busy harassing people to do anything else. confer this website for my evidence.
Also games journalists are laughably corrupt and have been since I want to say the late 1980's. They are purchased with free beta invites, DLC, hardware and games consoles, and ebayable swag. They also make sure to give high marks to games whose studios have purchased large amounts of advertizing and also high marks to their friends. They are not the way to tolerance for all people. Tiny cliques accustomed to receiving free benefits due to their rank never are. |
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