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Nevase Prometeus
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:12:00 -
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Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.
So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.
Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.
Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.
And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker'spod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.
thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language. |
Paranoid Loyd
1677
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:14:00 -
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WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE MINERS!?! "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
886
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:16:00 -
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Nevase Prometeus wrote:Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.
So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.
Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.
Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.
And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.
thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language.
Or maybe you join a corp and see if they have people that will protect you as you mine... or hire some mercs to war dec code and watch for targets as you mine, or hire mercs to guard you in low sec. Or go find a quite wormhole and mine, or join a 0.0 alliance and go mine, or put more defenses on your miner at the risk of getting less ore. or don't mine in a system with a lot of code, there are 7k systems you can easily find a quite out the way system to mine. Or change ships to one that has better defenses at the expense of less ore..
Do I honestly need to go on? 10.5 years as a miner, its not the bloody hard to tell code to suck it and keep mining. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Torneach Structor
Showup Fleet
67
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:17:00 -
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You already get a free system-wide scream when the attack starts.
Just make sure to have a good enough tank to endure the assault until CONCORD comes along. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
517
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:18:00 -
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Either post in one of the many threadnaughts that exist to address this very issue, or biomass and contract your stuff to me. K thanks, bye. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
886
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:18:00 -
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You don't need ccp to give you a way to scream for help, its simple, join a corp, make friends, and have them help defend you. Or hire someone to do it. I just sovled your issue in 3 seconds with CCP not having to change a thing. You are welcome OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Trixie Lawless
Wayland Industrial Holdings
12
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:20:00 -
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Nevase Prometeus wrote:Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.
So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.
Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.
Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.
And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.
thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language.
When I first started this game I was completely against ganking (and I'm still not fond of ganking lowbie toons in ventures) but after this weekend, meh. Too many dingalings floating around in space while they are afk doing whatever else. Gank away and I'll have some fun whoring bounties from Concord kills (I made easy isk this weekend).
And I don't know where you are from, but where I live us "normal folk" are usually armed. :)
Tank your ship and follow safe mining practices. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4584
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:20:00 -
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Torneach Structor wrote:You already get a free system-wide scream when the attack starts.
Just make sure to have a good enough tank to endure the assault until CONCORD comes along. this and HTFU =][= |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24404
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:21:00 -
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Nevase Prometeus wrote:So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster. This already exists. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4591
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:25:00 -
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Don't be the lowest hanging fruit. Fit right. Fleet up with other miners, even if you're just planning on solo mining. Fleet boosts, even without a (off-grid) booster will throw the calculations of gankers what they may need to gank you off enough that the gank fails. Also, shut up in local when you got ganked. Your tears feed them.
In summary: Increase their risk, reduce their reward. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
10113
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:34:00 -
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Getting ganked?!?
Ain't nobody got time for THAT Stop tolling me. Im jnot drunk...-áIm going to stop posti --Pepper the Penguin ~ Please come support a yellow EVE jumpsuit for me (and everyone else). Thank you! ~ |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
607
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:59:00 -
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step 1 - roll a junk alt on a spare slot. step 2 - have him shoot at someone to get GCC/crim in the belt you are mining in step 3 - concord will spawn in the belt and kill him step 4 - now concord is in the belt, if someone comes to gank you they should spawn a little bit faster. step 5 - profit
not tested, don't know if it works but probably worth a try. gankers tend to avoid belts where concord is already spawned. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16712
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Posted - 2014.09.03 16:59:00 -
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Obligatory..
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
396
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:05:00 -
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It's a lousy 10M isk to avoid all the headache. I dont understand why some people would rather lose ship after ship or be forced to sit in station when the gankers arrive because they "object in principle" to the whole thing. We have a "daughter corp" that mines for us, and we make sure all of our miner's follow The Code of New Halaima.
A lousy 10M isk. Geez.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:32:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:It's a lousy 10M isk to avoid all the headache. I dont understand why some people would rather lose ship after ship or be forced to sit in station when the gankers arrive because they "object in principle" to the whole thing. We have a "daughter corp" that mines for us, and we make sure all of our miner's follow The Code of New Halaima.
A lousy 10M isk. Geez.
Alternately, you can just stay at the damn keyboard, keep local open with CODE and whoever needs to be set to 'terrible' and on your watch list, and...I know "butHiplyit'shaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrdddd!"...periodically use dscan, stay semi-aligned and crawling along at 4-5 m/s, and avoid being ludicrously easy prey to begin with. Oh, and yes, get some f+¦cking tank. Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied." EvE: Only the stong-willied need apply.
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Americium Cobalt
Cobalt-60 Nuclear Fusion Industries
1
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:33:00 -
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Was Ganked on my first day as a rookie, it was exciting, since then i learned how to shield and armor tank my mining ships. There is a balance of Greed vs Fit that most miners still do not get. I have survived many ganking attempts. Because i am not greedy. Ganking makes the game exciting. Also makes the game profitable when you manufacture all the ganking accessories. I also buy up all their stuff locally and raise the prices. So play on!!! |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
3758
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:35:00 -
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Fly a proc. The Drake is a Lie |
Paranoid Loyd
1683
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:36:00 -
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Chandaris wrote:step 1 - roll a junk alt on a spare slot. step 2 - have him shoot at someone to get GCC/crim in the belt you are mining in step 3 - concord will spawn in the belt and kill him step 4 - now concord is in the belt, if someone comes to gank you they should spawn a little bit faster. step 5 - profit
not tested, don't know if it works but probably worth a try. gankers tend to avoid belts where concord is already spawned.
Or they just do the same thing and pull them back out of the belt. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8021
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:40:00 -
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I will never understand the need to spend 30 seconds asking CCP to do something that you can already do for yourself in game with 5 seconds of thinking. Seems wasteful to me. |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
35
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:40:00 -
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Nevase, I believe there was a referendum to increase our space taxes in order to fund more CONCORD security to our peace-loving pilots that are doing their part to stimulate our economy. Unfortunately, this was voted down.
Perhaps one day, a just government that is hard on crime and represents the people will come into power. In the interim, we will just have to endure the shameful criminal rights superceding the rights of blue collar workers.
Thank you for your comments, space citizen. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5378
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:41:00 -
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Nevase Prometeus wrote:Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.
So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.
Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.
Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.
And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.
thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language.
Now now. Calm down.
It's perfectly logical to put some small machine guns on a 20' Boston Whaler and take out a freighter weighing thousands of tons faster than the Coast Guard could respond.
Just saying. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
664
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:43:00 -
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You could always fleet with someone in a battlecruiser and have them fit one of these to help with that shield tank on your mining ship. |
Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:45:00 -
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Right. I'm really starting to see why people make the assumptions they do on these forums. Does this whining ever end? |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
664
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:46:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Nevase Prometeus wrote:Due to Ganking problems if CCP hold on (sand box game style) like RL. that is no 100% safe on earth.
So at least give miner something like 911 call when had been gank and Concord would come faster.
Ganker is like robber with weapon that try to kill&steal what is not their property.
Miner is like a normal people without weapon.What should miner could do against gank.....nothing ...CCP at least please give miner a rights to scream to ask for help like reallife.
And penalty for gank should adjust as real life too. no fix penalty please . when you blowup someone ship concord destroy your ship too. But when you kill someone in pods concords should kill ganker's pod too. As a law in real life an eye for an eye.
thanks for reading. sorry for my poor engligh language. Now now. Calm down. It's perfectly logical to put some small machine guns on a 20' Boston Whaler and take out a freighter weighing thousands of tons faster than the Coast Guard could respond. Just saying.
A bad day for pirates. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4593
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:51:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Right. I'm really starting to see why people make the assumptions they do on these forums. Does this whining ever end? no =][= |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5379
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Posted - 2014.09.03 17:56:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Steppa Musana wrote:Right. I'm really starting to see why people make the assumptions they do on these forums. Does this whining ever end? no
The forums without whining is like a revolution without dancing. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
924
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:00:00 -
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1)tank ship 2)go to belt 3)mine belt 4) laugh when CODE gets CONCORDED for shooting you 5) profit.
After a few rounds of this CODE gets bored and stops shooting at you. There are easier targets. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4594
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:08:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Right. I'm really starting to see why people make the assumptions they do on these forums. Does this whining ever end? we have had the argument so often though we can have them without actual content or salient points, we actualy had one about [reasons] a couple of weeks ago, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=357667 =][= |
Alphea Abbra
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
789
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:11:00 -
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There is no ganking problem. Any potential ganking problems were removed when mining ships got buffed. Ganking problems are an impossibility on mining ships.
The only problem left is you. No excuses. You're the problem.
Have a pleasant day! |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
200
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Posted - 2014.09.03 18:14:00 -
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An untanked Mackinaw in a 0.5 is like crying out in local: PLEASE GANK ME! I DON'T WANT THAT SHIP ANYWAY!!
How about you use all the tools that are already there and allow you to fit a Battleship sized tank on your mining vessel? the Code ALWAYS wins |
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