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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1521
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:11:00 -
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Money for nothing isn't legit? Dang.
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1195
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:22:00 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Money for nothing isn't legit? Dang.
The Acacia Strain wants to have a word with you. Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
Lady Spank
The Intaki Ladies Deep Space Astrogation Auxiliary
3575
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:22:00 -
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This thread just proves that there are genuinely dumb people out there. The only reason these 'local spam' type of scams perpetuate is because of cretins believing the most thinly-veiled attempts at legitimacy. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1574
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:27:00 -
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Rule of thumb: If you can't figure out how someone is possibly profiting from it, it's a lie or a scam. This goes for ISK doubling, margin trading market games, "too good to be true" contracts, etc.
I doubt your particular ISK doubler was "API verified". How was this "verification" performed? Did he send you a screenshot? Those are easily doctored. Did he send you to his website? Spoofing information on a personal website is easy, too.
The way to correctly verify data provided through the Eve API is:
- Obtain the actual API key ID and verification code.
- Find a neutral, 3rd party, trustworthy tool that allows you to see the data the key exposes. There's a whole variety out there, such as EveHQ, websites like Jackknife's API Auditor, or for certain things, even your favorite fitting tool, like Pyfa.
- Plug the API key in, and look at the data.
Alternatively, if you like reading raw XML and want to be absolutely sure (or you don't trust 3rd party tools), you can go directly to the API itself: https://api.eveonline.com/char/WalletJournal.xml.aspx?keyID=XXXXXXXX&vCode=YYYYYYYYYY (Replace the X's and Y's with their key ID and verification code).
If all of those options still show money being transferred that was never received, you should file a support ticket or bug report, as it is now an issue of API accuracy, which is a big deal. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums. |
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
912
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Posted - 2014.09.04 18:34:00 -
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Don't trust the ISK Doublers, the Quintuplers on the other hand are genuinely legit.
This game is advertised as a cold and harsh universe.
What part of sending virtual currency to another player absent any binding guarantess seemed like a good idea?
I purchased a guide to scamming on the internet once, sadly it never arrived in the mail like it said it would Concord Approved Trader |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
289
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:07:00 -
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Chribba wrote:What reason do they have to double your ISK in the first place? But no, they're note legitimate, none of them are.
/c
Please. Everyone knows there is no Chribba. As for Isk Doublers, some are legitimate some are not. I keep a running white list of legitimate Isk Doublers. For a small donation to help maintain the list I will be happy to check it for you to verify whether the Isk Doublers that you are dealing with are for real. I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope Gallente Federation
999
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:19:00 -
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Chribba wrote:What reason do they have to double your ISK in the first place? But no, they're note legitimate, none of them are.
/c How dare you slander legitimate Jita businessmen! And people claim you're trustworthy! Were any of those supers actually delievered? Hm?
[/end over the top righteous fury] New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4600
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:22:00 -
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"Legitimate ISK Doubler"
Now that's an oxymoron if I ever saw one. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1700
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:24:00 -
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Well there was one legitimate ISK double, Erotica 1, but he got banned. Epic Space Cat |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6315
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:02:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:How Legittimate Are 'API Verified' ISK Doublers?.
About as legitimate as my side-job as an adult movie casting agent.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16730
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:51:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:James Nikolas Tesla wrote:How Legittimate Are 'API Verified' ISK Doublers?. About as legitimate as my side-job as an adult movie casting agent. You never got back to me... I'm starting to think I didn't get the job.... Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
914
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:03:00 -
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Humanity has yet to reach the point of no return.
You know what, why the heck not?
I'm in a good mood tonight.
Send me 50m in game (not alot to gamble) and i will x5 it and send 250m back.
Don't believe me? Don't play and miss out.
Cry about being poor, cry about making assumptions i will not keep my word, cry about philantropists endeavouring to be philantropists - unless you try you'll never know kids Concord Approved Trader |
Charles Muffins
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:08:00 -
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May as well eat all your ISK if you're gonna try to spend it on an ISK doubler. |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
914
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:16:00 -
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Charles Muffins wrote:May as well eat all your ISK if you're gonna try to spend it on an ISK doubler. I said earlier that the doublers were potentially an unsavoury horse to back in any race. Do you have any factual evidence to augment any suggestion that those who offer to quintuple are not legit? Concord Approved Trader |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
662
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:40:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote: Chribba, for example, acts as a Trusted Third Party for super cap sales. He has a reason to not scam you, as it would harm his business. But he still could.
One of these days, Chribba is going to decide to cash out and scam us all. Just take all the ISK.
That is when I will know that EvE is dying. I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9536
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:40:00 -
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Glathull wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote: Chribba, for example, acts as a Trusted Third Party for super cap sales. He has a reason to not scam you, as it would harm his business. But he still could. One of these days, Chribba is going to decide to cash out and scam us all. Just take all the ISK. That is when I will know that EvE is dying.
I'm more worried about the fact that, if he so chose, he could crash the Tritanium market and wreck the entire economy. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
418
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:45:00 -
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Erotica 1 was the only true isk doubler Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com |
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
914
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:53:00 -
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BuckStrider wrote:Erotica 1 was the only true isk doubler Her curse still resonates.
Look into her eyes on the bounty billboards in space and your space vessel incurs 5% drawbacks to shield, armour and hull Concord Approved Trader |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
621
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:54:00 -
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Chribba wrote:What reason do they have to double your ISK in the first place? But no, they're note legitimate, none of them are.
/c
I'm space rich and leaving the game, so now want to give back!
although being truthful I'm not space rich or leaving the game You can trust me, I have a monocole |
James Nikolas Tesla
The True Patriots of New Eden
168
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:59:00 -
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I just got mails back from these guys saying it was a scam. Like I said, the money I lost was of no concern to me, it's just a learning experience. I am still fairly new (8-10 months iirc) and I am still learning which is why I ask questions. The only reason I hit the trade hub is for the sometimes lower prices. Industry is my thing, and the market is part of it if I want to make any money. - |
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1177
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:51:00 -
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If you send me 100M ISK, I'll send none of it back, ever.
That you can trust.
Or can you? [witty image] - Stream |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
5416
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:12:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:I just got mails back from these guys saying it was a scam. Like I said, the money I lost was of no concern to me, it's just a learning experience. I am still fairly new (8-10 months iirc) and I am still learning which is why I ask questions. The only reason I hit the trade hub is for the sometimes lower prices. Industry is my thing, and the market is part of it if I want to make any money. My suggestion: minimize Jita local and don't read anything in it. It's almost all lies and garbage anyways. |
Decian Cor
Disconnected. Ineluctable.
161
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:09:00 -
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Everybody knows that the only legitimate ISK doubler in New Eden is Erotica 1.
You boot. Unfiltered for the masses.
FC in Training; http://imgur.com/mzSl1Ie |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1192
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:24:00 -
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Send me any amount over 500 million and I promise to doable it!... You can trust me... Right? |
James Nikolas Tesla
The True Patriots of New Eden
168
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Posted - 2014.09.05 08:07:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Send me any amount over 500 million and I promise to doable it!... You can trust me... Right? How do you doable something? - |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1192
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:29:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:IIshira wrote:Send me any amount over 500 million and I promise to doable it!... You can trust me... Right? How do you doable something?
There's only way to find out... Send me the ISK |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1144
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:51:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Here are a list of opther common things you might see in local that are absolutely not true:
1. Willing to pay 2.9 billion for a plex, but only if you use this contract I just linked. Red Flag: If you have 2.9 billion in escrow on the contract, why don't you just cancel the contract and buy a plex? I have no idea why people fall for this.
2. The subsidized ships scam. It works like this, someone posts a set of links to contracts for, by example, Imperial Navy Slicers for 1 million ISK, saying it's been subsidized by the Good Samaritan Company of Eve (or some such nonsense). Two of the links are to contracts that are already done, and they look good, 1 million each - better hurry and grab that last contract! Except it's for a billion isk, not a million. Lesson: Read every contract twice. Then reread it. COUNT THE ZEROES! If you smell anything even the slightest bit fishy, move along.
3. Margin Trading. Someone mentioned this scam earlier but basically it depends on you not having a thorough knowledge of the market for the items you are trying to make a quick profit on. No one buys things for three times the going rate. NO ONE. Rule #1 in Eve. If it's too good to be true or the deal of the century or makes you think "I'm gonna make more money thn Scrooge McDuck!", it's a scam of some sort and you are about to lose your pants. You can usually spot these in local as the "LOL Market trading while drunk wish I had the ISK" bots
4. Station Trading. Do not ever do this unless you are trading to an alt (one of your own). If someone tells you they can't do a contract for something, run, do not walk, the **** away.
5. ISK Doubling: Yeah, you got a handle on this one already.
6. Trust NO ONE in Eve with your ISK or assets. Do not trust me, do not trust your corp (past the point necessary to be in a corp), do not trust the happy guy who tells you he can get you into Goons for 500 million ISK. Hell, I don't even trust my own alts. There is exactly one person in Eve you can trust - Chribba, Lord of the Veldspar, Bearer of all Things, Captain of the Mighty Veldnaught. He you can trust*.
*Until he finally decides to end this ten year long con he's running and scamper to the hills with everything in the game that isn't nailed down.
There are quite a few others including: - the same item in buy and sell sections (you pay money and get X but an X is removed from your inventory at same time) - variations of the lucrative undeliverable cargo contract scam - the misnamed item scam, for example the RNI thats just a T1 Raven (more sophisticated versions have multiple items with the first in list correct)
plus more, sitting in Jita or Amarr playing "work out qhat the scam is" can be a fun time-waster.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8044
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Posted - 2014.09.05 15:00:00 -
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[quote=Absolutely Not Analt] I have no idea why people fall for this.
http://www.scambook.com/blog/2013/04/why-do-the-best-scams-work-because-our-brains-werent-hard-wired-to-avoid-them/ |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6323
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Posted - 2014.09.05 15:33:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Doc Fury wrote:James Nikolas Tesla wrote:How Legittimate Are 'API Verified' ISK Doublers?. About as legitimate as my side-job as an adult movie casting agent. You never got back to me... I'm starting to think I didn't get the job.... I regret to inform you we could not use your services at this time.
There was an issue with the rider in your contract about the doughnuts, and the colorful requirement that any fluffers we employed only be referred to as "Fluff Daddy". Frankly, no matter how hard I tried to sell it, there was just no way we could use food items in such a fashion and still remain in compliance with basic US hygiene and license regulations.
I also reached out to an agency in Germany known for 'peculiarities', however part of their response when translated is some kind of profane insult I was previously unfamiliar with.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:33:00 -
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So Eve really is educational. It teaches you that EVERYONE is out to get you, even the nice little old lady with all the cats.
Especially the nice little old lady with all the cats. Eve is a multi player game.-áAnd you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin |
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