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admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2014.09.06 18:29:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:they dislike the Goons for the same reason they joined Ripard Teg on his wild witch-hunt against Erotica 1 - they don't know a single goon, they have never talked to any of them, they don't know anyone who has ever even been involved in anything involving the little bees - but they have VERY STRONG opinions about them that are based on third hand information that someone told them who knew someone who might have known someone who heard it from a totally trustworthy source that someone who knew someone once got scammed by someone who might have been connected with someone who once was a goon once knew back in 2007.
This pretty much sums it up. That and the fact that beating them at this point would involve ~effort~. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Renegade Heart
Smack My Ship Up
169
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:54:00 -
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I went to war against Goons a few times and even went to attack them in null sec. But it was never really about disliking them. Instead it seemed cool to go up against a bigger group as part of a smaller group. That was basically it. I dislike blobs in general to be honest.
As for some people saying they are ruining Eve, well I find that funny because they don't really ruin it for me. If another big group was as dominant in the game as Goons are now, people would be saying the same things about them. |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
208
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Posted - 2014.09.08 06:49:00 -
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Mainly because goons aka. CFC took their stuff and now they are mad about it. http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries Chelonaphobia
439
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Posted - 2014.09.08 11:33:00 -
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It would be funny to out all the goon alts in other corps. RvB for instance. Just to see the agahst looks on folks faces when it dawns on them that the cool dude they've been flying w/ for the past year is actually a goon alt.
Moral of the story. Every time you get 100 dudes together (1000 dudes in this case) you'll get the whole spectrum of humanity. The 80% in the middle of the pack - you never notice them... they are normal and blend in. The last 20% (the 10% on the top and bottom end of whatever spectrum you are looking at)... well they stick out as being particularly bad or good - those are the guys you remember.
So there are 1000 goons (in this example). 800 of them you'll never notice. The 100 acts of kindness on the top you take for granted for the most part. The 100 acts of wickedness - those you remember.
Kindness from a goon?? Is that possible?? I dunno.... have you ever read 'grid fu'?? |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:36:00 -
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i don't
Difference between
CFC Gevlon Code
? First two create real content Forum Main |
William Ruben
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
39
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:50:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Right now I don't like them because they have lost their way. They've settled null. It's a big isk driven business. They have abandoned their roots and gone corporate. They are striving to make things steady and balanced so they may pile thier isk ever higher and fill their hangars ever fuller with.... well fake space pixels.
They have forgotten the most important goon core value - it's all fake.... everything - the empire, the isk, the.... all of it.
With the loss of their core value they are just another selfish corporate entity scraping ever deeper into the landscape of eve for fake gains. There is no fun or happiness in this endeavor. It will lead to a boredom and an eventual exodus to a game where you can actually have fun and do fun things.
When their idea of winning eve changed from peeing down my or your air hose to becoming the masters of eve the end began.
Why do I dislike the goons?? Because they have lost their way. "I was into Goons before they sold out man!" |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels
2081
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Posted - 2014.09.08 19:50:00 -
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A bunch of dudes did some things in an attempt to be internet spaceships bad guys.
Unsurprisingly, some other dudes now think they're internet spaceships bad guys.
For me, they just make convenient red boxes for periodic ammo deposits. |
Bronson Hughes
Prophets of Fear
365
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:55:00 -
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I have no particular like or dislike for Goonswarm. I have flown with Goons and I have flown against Goons. The only difference I noticed at the time was the names of those that got primaried.
Their line members have a reputation for being offensive and rude, but I see far worse language and more abusive tirades elsewhere. Many of them are notorious scammers, but, again, no worse than any trade hub.
Their leadership is smart. They essentially provide content on-demand for their members, which gives them a huge edge in terms of morale and available numbers. This makes them hard to beat, which in turn makes them easy to hate.
Remember folks hating Goons just creates content...and fuels the Swarm. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.08 21:48:00 -
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We only ever ask for things that only benefit us!
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Because [Goons] are back to promoting solo game play
We're pretty big hypocrites!
Nevyn Auscent wrote:You have been caught being hypocrites and are now getting laughed at for it. It's not Grrr Goons, it's point and laugh at the fail goons day.
We're whiny little children!
Prophet Tier wrote:I hope you realize that for a goon it's not about who's right or wrong. He's going to be a petulant child regardless.
We swallow! (pride)
Kenneth Field wrote:I can't imagine how much pride was swallowed along with alot of other things to allow renters, now [Goons] have to go to the pubbies and get ore instead of ganking
We're unjustly entitled! (we should probably die)
SJ Astralana wrote: Eve isn't a silver platter, and [Goons] don't get a silver spoon no matter how much you Cry Us. Suck it up, and adapt or (preferably) die. |
Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2014.09.08 23:42:00 -
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Their wiki might have something to do with it.
Personally I can't complain too much about Goons. I was a carebear like any other until Hulkageddon. It really opened my eyes to what the game could offer. I never looked back.
But yeah, if I was gay... or black... I'd probably be quite annoyed. |
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Moloney
Faceless Men
143
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Posted - 2014.09.10 15:55:00 -
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They are a group that by all accounts have an admin / logistical setup rivaling irl enterprise organization in a game environment.
None others have matched that nor do I suspect many want to play like that.
So there is no fighting them with expectations of success like you would with any other group. You just have to wait for them to get bored or randomly implode.
It's like taxes, they are always there and there is nothing you can do about it without significant effort that most don't enjoy spending in a game.
Engage tinfoil: always wondered if it's run by independently rich nerds, intelligent nerds that never left the basement or an rmt empire... |
Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2014.09.10 16:19:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:For some, Goons are a manifestation of all of their own inadequacies, externalized into an organization that is big, faceless, and easy to hate on.
For some, it's sour grapes, they have been historically successful in EVE and success comes at the expense of others.
For some, it's taking offense at their "to heck with everybody else" attitudes.
For some, it's because everyone else hates on them, and they're just joining the bandwagon.
This is probably the most concise answer I've seen to the question.
I personally don't have a problem with the Goons. They do go out of their way to create content, which is good for the game, and they go out of their way to poke at the broken parts until CCP fixes them, which is also good for the game.
I think a lot of people dislike them because of their more juvenile antics - internet spaceships being serious business and all. I have never had any real love for them. I suppose this stems from me being an older, cynical, and generally curmudgeonly fellow - I find their antics mildly annoying in the same way I find techno music and raves annoying, but I also don't actively dislike them. Overall, I think, love or hate them, they're actually good for the game, and I wonder what Eve would look like if they had never been involved (or if it would even still be around). Eve is a multi player game.-áAnd you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin Being meh at two things is not better than being great at one. - Lugh Crow-Slave
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Phugoid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
175
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Posted - 2014.09.10 18:15:00 -
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Hmmmm...
Personally, I don't dislike them. I do respect what they have accomplished in the game.
I do not trust them tho, as I learned the hard way regarding ransoms and a couple of ganks. But hey, its the game. Even survived a gank attempt on an empty freighter once...barely, but survived :) I do know a couple of them in a shared chat, other than that no biggee.
For the most part they are busy against other "big boys" in the sandbox...... Flugzeugf++hrer |
Anya Klibor
Insanely Twisted D3vil's Childr3n
767
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Posted - 2014.09.10 19:16:00 -
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It began with the forging of the Great Rings. |
Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
33
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Posted - 2014.09.11 01:25:00 -
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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find their Plex, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of of the Blue Donut where the Unspeakable Meta lie.
Apart that I don't like or dislike them. Meta pseudopolitics in null sec seems to be from another world where some people, at the image of the Colonel Kurtz, have crossed a certain frontier... |
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