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Ray Zyrus
Chaos Level 5 Gun Fun Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:08:00 -
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Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash.... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4661
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:10:00 -
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Because ccp are actually the imf trying to sypon off isk before moving into new Eden =][= |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
960
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:11:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash.... Because people want to pay 800 mill for them. Do you miss playing Blink? Come play Crink! We are launching today!
Join the channel 'crink' in game or visit http://crink.corelicorp.net to play!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12972
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:11:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
Supply and demand. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Torneach Structor
Showup Fleet
75
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:12:00 -
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Why not play the game for fun instead of playing the game to keep playing the game to keep playing the game (ad infinitum)?
With regards to the rest of your post, inflation, speculation, manipulation, whatever. All of them have some degree of impact on the prices in some degree or another. I'm sure somebody did a thorough analysis somewhere on the interwebs about the whole situation. |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
46
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:13:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
Shoulda bought a bunch at 430k, and flip 'em at 800k. Don't leave yer ISK lying around, unprotected against inflation.
Perhaps 800k will be a bargain in the future. Invest now! |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
896
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:14:00 -
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Because CCP added new features that uatlize plex, as people use more plex the demand goes up, so the suppliers charge more as there is more demand then supply.
Econ 101.
You want plex prices to fall? you take your/mom/dad's CC, buy a bunch of plexes and put them on the market for lower then the current crop, and you do this until people try to undercut you.
Don't want to do that? ok..
Then take all yoru isk, buy all the plex' in jita and resell it for 1/2 the current price.
No bad idea?
Ok.. then stop whining. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
5587
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:14:00 -
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The sites called plexes you can run aren't related to PLEX. A PLEX is an in-game item that can be bought from eve's store, third party retailers, or on the in-game market, and is subject to supply and demand just like any other item. They are in high demand and that demand has been steadily rising since, just like you, players would like to pay for their accounts with isk rather than real money. This is a trend that will most likely continue for the foreseeable future, sorry. |
Rayo Atra
Aliastra Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:14:00 -
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Plex that get on the general eve market are originally purchased by players for for $20 (US) and then get placed on the market for isk . The reasons for the price rise is a very long conversation, much of which can be found in other threads, or by google searching :]
I still have a solid pile of plex that i purchased for 288 mil, so this general isk inflation has been trending up for years.
P.L.E.X or pilots licence extensions (30 days of game time) are completely separate from a DED complex NPC site usually referred to as a plex.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/DED_Complex_List
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/30_Day_Concord_Pilot_License_Extension Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.
-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4482
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:20:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
Sometimes when I'm feeling entitled, I like to take a long, warm bath and try to drown myself in the shallow water in order to restore some sense to myself via the ancient technique of forcing my whole life to flash before my eyes in order to gain some perspective.*
While I don't recommend such extreme measures, I would recommend getting some perspective. EVE is a game, you're not meant to be 'earning a living' from it, you're meant to be playing it.
*Note: I never actually do this. I hate baths. Besides, my face fits in the kitchen sink just fine. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
103
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:24:00 -
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The prices are actually coming down since the implosion of blinky and friends. |
Absolutely Not Analt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:25:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
Actually I remember when PLEX were in the 300 million ISK range, so sperg on noob. They cost that much because people will pay that much for them due to (as has been pointed out) the economic principle of supply and demand. Personally, I love it since I pay with real $ for my accounts and use PLEX to occsionally fill gaps when my expenditures exceed my income in game. In general, my buying power has increased, so I'm pretty happy. Eve is a multi player game.-áAnd you are the content. - Ralph King-Griffin |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24437
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:39:00 -
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Are they GÇ£rediculousGÇ¥? They seem to be at the price a PLEX is worthGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
1196
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:36:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
There weren't even wormholes yet when PLEX was that cheap. Accounts may not be used for business purposes. Access to the System and playing EVE is intended for your personal entertainment, enjoyment and recreation, and not for corporate, business, commercial or income-seeking activities.-á |
Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1236
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:42:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Are they GǣrediculousGǥ? They seem to be at the price a PLEX is worthGǪ
That's the new conspiracy? Commies are hoarding all the PLEX and will flip them later to buy themself a grand army to conquer all of us? |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
665
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:46:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote: definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
Because you would rather spend your time in the game grinding isk? |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
963
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:47:00 -
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Absolutely Not Analt wrote:Actually I remember when PLEX were in the 300 million ISK range, so sperg on noob. 90 day game time cards were 430 mill many, many years ago. Do you miss playing Blink? Come play Crink! We are launching today!
Join the channel 'crink' in game or visit http://crink.corelicorp.net to play!
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voetius
BITB Support Services
261
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:49:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
There was a good article on themittani.com a couple of months ago about plex prices over time. Worth a read if you want to understand the factors that determine plex prices. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1183
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:52:00 -
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This thread is so frequent, I actually feel a sig coming on. But, no-one would ever see it. [witty image] - Stream |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8051
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:54:00 -
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People always complain about plex prices when plex prices are just a symptom. The real problem is that EVE Online no has too many "wealth faucets". I say wealth because that includes everything (LP, blue loot, blue prints etc).
Since I've been playing, CCP has added 'systems upgrades' in null that means instead of haivng to go out and hunt for sites/belts with rats in them you can just stay in one place and farm. They added wormholes that they didn't think were farmable (lol cap escalation mechanics) and they get farmed. They added incursions which can be farmed mercilessly in high sec. They added 'rewards' to faction warfare that are crazy farmable with cheap ships.
They've even added rewards to existing pve content (SOE ships available in high sec, and loads of new low sec rewards like clone ships, mordus ship bpcs from belts, SOE ship chips from drone sites, new valuable mods like pithum/gistum invuls from low sec available plexes etc etc).
And then there have been ship (marauders, noctis) and module additions (Bastion) and even automation (MTUs, salvage drones) that have made it easier for even totally uncreative people to pull in isk and things that can be sold for isk or things that can be made to sell for isk.
It's easier now to make crazy isk with a pve fit ship now than it was before Dominion (when belt ratting was a thing). The obvious result of making it easier for people to acquire wealth is rising prices for things people want like PLEX. The addition of all the exploitable wealth faucets for me was going from 1 account paid for with cash to easily plexing the 4 I have now (ie using someone esle's cash). |
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
6047
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:57:00 -
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Relevant: Times Up Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
719
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Posted - 2014.09.05 18:59:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
Supply and demand.
It's the only thing in the game that is based on supply and demand. There is no way for players to cartel Plex. If I have a mind to go buy 3 Plex, 30 Plex, they are in Jita with no logistics, they are sold with no manipulations.
Had CCP started the Plex side of EVE with a monthly cap, things would be very different but that's a coulda, woulda, shoulda scenario. They sell 500 a month, they sell 5 million, it's all an option. |
Deheler
Muggers Inc.
5
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:05:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote:The prices are actually coming down since the implosion of blinky and friends. I think it has more to do with the introduction of the new Multiple Pilot Training Certificate. It can be bought in the NES for 3500 AURUM and used for Dual Character training (just as PLEX) A lot of (older) Pilots still have substantial amounts of AURUM lying around from when it was given away as promotion by CCP. Easy way to get 700-750 million....
They started quite a bit lower on the market compared to PLEX, but prices are gradually drifting toward each other. MPTC is going up, PLEX is going down.
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2122
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:06:00 -
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This ? AGAIN ?
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Josef Djugashvilis
2503
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:09:00 -
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It is all part of the plot by the New World Oder to do control the masses. This is not a signature. |
Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries
76
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:21:00 -
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Calling for CCP to make a sticky link to their economic panel from fanfest. give it a witty title having something to do with people whining about plex prices. |
RoAnnon
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
474
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:26:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:There weren't even wormholes yet when PLEX was that cheap.
I bought my first plex in May 2010 for 233M and was outraged it was so expensive...
So, you're a bounty hunter. No, that ain't it at all. Then what are you? I'm a bounty hunter. |
Charax Bouclier
Emerald Drama Theatrics
48
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:40:00 -
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Since the concept of inflation is so troubling, despite the fact that your purchasing power is unchanged, I suggest that we replace the deflated ISK with a new galactic currency, the Quatloo.
1 Quatloo will be valued at 1,000,000 ISK. Accordingly, PLEX can be acquired for the very low price of 800 Quatloos. Only 800 Quatloos, you say? I'll buy a dozen PLEX, please and thank you!! |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6329
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:48:00 -
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Charax Bouclier wrote:Since the concept of inflation is so troubling, despite the fact that your purchasing power is unchanged, I suggest that we replace the deflated ISK with a new galactic currency, the Quatloo. I'll stick with Gé¬oolongs. That, and the tears of the usual self-entitled and nay-saying idiots which flow more greatly than all the isk faucets in EVE. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Cidanel Afuran
Astro Technologies Apocalypse Now.
27
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:51:00 -
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Ray Zyrus wrote:Can anyone explain to me how or why the PLEX prices get so rediculous?
they started out at 430 million isk and now they are almost at 800 million. it gets pretty tough for me to pay the account nowadays.
so i know that there sights that are called plexes but aside from that i have no further knowledge about where they are come from. I just buy them in the market and redeem them.
but if the trend of the rising prices continues i might need to get into these sights to earn a living.
definitely not gonna pay my account with real cash....
If you can't afford $12/mo for a hobby you most likely play dozens of hours/week, maybe you should spend less time flying spaceships and more time looking for a better job IRL... |
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