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Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
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Posted - 2014.09.06 13:14:00 -
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For one run of a Mid-grade Ascendancy Alpha BPC you need the following:
21 - Shattered Villard Wheel @ 1m3 each 326 - Synthetic Synapses @ 6m3 each 357 - Cryoprotectant Solution @ 6m3 each 48 - Morphite @ 0.01 m3 each
This totals to 4,119.48 m3 of stuff to make one Implant.
So what are we doing this all this stuff? Pulling out the perfect molecules from this stuff to make the 1 m3 implant? I am assuming that most of the 1m3 for the implant is packaging for its protection. |
GreenSeed
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Posted - 2014.09.06 20:41:00 -
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i think the whole Implant manufacturing thing is duct taped together, before they expand it (and yes, they should. all implants should be manufactured.) they need to rework the production chain. as it is now they just took some stuff they had lying around and said "yeah, well, they are made from wheels that spun really, REALLY fast"
that said, manufacturing takes many more components than the ones that end up making up the end product, not to mention even the best production methods will result in wasted materials. take for example current Microprocessor manufacturing processes, a lot of the waffer ends up being wasted or simply failing QA and getting downgraded. and the whole process consumes many more materials than the ones that end up making up the component. also, lots of chemical processes cant really be done on a small scale.
if anything, its every other industry process on EVE that's "odd", after cirrus they are all perfect, no waste. |
Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
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Posted - 2014.09.06 21:11:00 -
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I am not sure where I can find the info on prototype Computer Chip Wafer Production, but I can almost guarantee that it did not take 4,119.48 m3 of stuff to make one working Silicone wafer.
Eve has lots of waste now. Refining 72%. If the Steel Industry could only do that well, we would be in real trouble. Recycling not wanted items, 55%. That sounds a little low, but there is plenty of waste in recycling.
I am just saying that it takes way too many expensive things to make the implants and way too much quantity. |
Carniflex
StarHunt Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.09.07 08:29:00 -
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Gaufres wrote:I am not sure where I can find the info on prototype Computer Chip Wafer Production, but I can almost guarantee that it did not take 4,119.48 m3 of stuff to make one working Silicone wafer.
Eve has lots of waste now. Refining 72%. If the Steel Industry could only do that well, we would be in real trouble. Recycling not wanted items, 55%. That sounds a little low, but there is plenty of waste in recycling.
I am just saying that it takes way too many expensive things to make the implants and way too much quantity.
Depends on how large scale you look at it. If you start with the digging out the crap from the earth the entire production chain might actually involve materials roughly in that volume (including water and power generation needed for the process).
Anyway - I highly doubt the synthetic synapses themselves are like 6 m3.
Most of it is indeed packaging and/or consumables used in the manufacturing processes. Your average synthetic synapse is not stable enough to last for decades with any less packaging than 6 m3.
Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... *THWONK!* GOT the bastard. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.07 11:44:00 -
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What I want to know is, who the **** has a spare cubic meter in their head? If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough. |
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