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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:25:00 -
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I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers.
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Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
324
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:36:00 -
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TBF
if I was in a gang and if we had been roaming for like a hour and we finally find something to kill and our guy 'hogged' it all to himself, I think everyone would've been pissed off.
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:40:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:TBF
if I was in a gang and if we had been roaming for like a hour and we finally find something to kill and our guy 'hogged' it all to himself, I think everyone would've been pissed off.
That doesn't change the fact that this well known "elite" pvp corp ignored a 1vs1 request. I have read they are elite pvpers, not so much it seems, any old corp can gang up 4 vs 1, that's easy.
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killer chick
Devious Decorum
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:43:00 -
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shortly before this, they were in Aeschee QQ'ing about ECM and logi being on scan. and apparently my stealth bomber is a bonus loki. |
killer chick
Devious Decorum
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:47:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Mekhana wrote:TBF
if I was in a gang and if we had been roaming for like a hour and we finally find something to kill and our guy 'hogged' it all to himself, I think everyone would've been pissed off.
That doesn't change the fact that this well known "elite" pvp corp ignored a 1vs1 request. I have read they are elite pvpers, not so much it seems, any old corp can gang up 4 vs 1, that's easy.
they only engage drakes and canes. if anything else is on scan, they will scatter like cockroaches. its the tusker code. |
Tirelion
Douchingtons Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:53:00 -
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Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 04:56:00 -
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Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell.
move along troll the adults are talking, err.. I mean douche... lol that's his corp name. |
Roosterton
Eternal Frontier
157
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:06:00 -
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If they never agreed to give you a 1v1, it's completely honorable of them to not give you a 1v1. Your fault for engaging on the assumption that they would provide you with a 1v1, when you never had their word. |
Tirelion
Douchingtons Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:13:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. move along troll the adults are talking, err.. I mean douche... lol that's his corp name. Obviously not, unless you are referring to Killer. Telling someone to move along because the truth is painful, does not make it less true, or you any less of an idiot for thinking you had any "honorable" right to a 1v1 after the fight starts. That's like calling the insurance company and asking them to insure your car after the accident. Hopefully you are "adult" enough to understand that concept. |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:21:00 -
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Everytime I play roulette, I like to wait until after the dealer has waived off all new bets to immediatley place my bet...
And then p!ss and moan about the dealer's lack of honor and the casino's reputation being worthless to the rest of the patrons I'm being 'escorted' by on my new found destination for the immediate future, the curb of the street. |
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Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:22:00 -
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Tirelion wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. move along troll the adults are talking, err.. I mean douche... lol that's his corp name. Obviously not, unless you are referring to Killer. Telling someone to move along because the truth is painful, does not make it less true, or you any less of an idiot for thinking you had any "honorable" right to a 1v1 after the fight starts. That's like calling the insurance company and asking them to insure your car after the accident. Hopefully you are "adult" enough to understand that concept.
There is no truth denying here, any pain, or declaration of rights. I lost a drake big deal I have lost plenty and will continue to do so. I just stated the facts plain and clear in my first post. I am just saying this "elite" pvp corp can't handle a 1vs1 when asked to do so, I think the timing is a minor point. If I am disappointing you by speaking clearly and without childish name calling then you sir have some issues perhaps you should address with your guidance counsellor, its near the principals office. |
Grog Drinker
The Tuskers
4
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:49:00 -
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We make absolutely no claims about our "eliteness". In fact many of us are terrible. We are also pirates at heart and although we enjoy a good fight we also enjoy ganking the hell out of people. In the future if your looking for a "fair" fight then do it in a system that isn't known as a blob fest.
I will also add that it is against the Tusker code of conduct to accept 1v1 duels. You may get lucky and get one anyway with enough warning if we are bored enough but this is generally an exception to the rule. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 05:56:00 -
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Grog Drinker wrote:We make absolutely no claims about our "eliteness". In fact many of us are terrible. We are also pirates at heart and although we enjoy a good fight we also enjoy ganking the hell out of people. In the future if your looking for a "fair" fight then do it in a system that isn't known as a blob fest.
So... you are saying you agree with my first post? |
Super Chair
Hell's Revenge Flatline.
36
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Posted - 2011.11.24 06:33:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Grog Drinker wrote:We make absolutely no claims about our "eliteness". In fact many of us are terrible. We are also pirates at heart and although we enjoy a good fight we also enjoy ganking the hell out of people. In the future if your looking for a "fair" fight then do it in a system that isn't known as a blob fest. So... you are saying you agree with my first post? And for the record this doesn't change what I said, weak and no honor.
They're saying theyll kill whoever they want, however they want, whenever they want.
Deal with it. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
105
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Posted - 2011.11.24 06:37:00 -
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You tried to get a 1v1 arranged after the fight had started? Seriously? |
Azver Deroven
Pitch Black. Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 07:11:00 -
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Fighting fairly means you're doing something wrong.
Sorry but it needs to be said, as convops pilot Im absolutely against any and all notions of fairness and honour (Its with U, by the way). Actually I think any fight that you commit to so you cant bugger off, but fail to have advantage is foolhardy/stupid.
Ofcourse if you arrange it beforehand with mate to see who can pimp their ride better... Then that changes everything but then its not a fair fight to begin with, its just a set-up. :P |
Dynast
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
23
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Posted - 2011.11.24 07:12:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers. You cannot expect a request for 1v1 to be honored unless you ask before the fight starts. |
Onictus
Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge
38
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Posted - 2011.11.24 07:34:00 -
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Dynast wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:I was engaged in a fair 1 vs 1 in old man star tonight against a Tusker, when his buddies jumped in on what was an even fight, drake vs cane (both our shields were at around 50%). I requested 1vs1 in local (yes after the fight started), to which was answered with 5 vs 1, might have been 4 can't remember, but no matter. Consider otherwise before joining this well known corp they don't have any honor.
Not mad I lost, just wished these guys had the cahones to 1 vs 1 when it was requested. guess not, no different they any other pirates i guess. Cheers. You cannot expect a request for 1v1 to be honored unless you ask before the fight starts.
This.
I've had a number of encounters with The Tuskers, and they were as honorable as you can reliably expect a pirate to be. In fact I've been relatively impressed with a few of their pilots insomuch as they DON'T require 4 to 1 numbers before they undock, a marked improvement over my local pirates.
Sounds like you got yourself ganked, it happens, thow a GF and don't sweat it. |
Keltaris Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.11.24 09:23:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:I'm definitely mad bro's.
Edited for truth
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
45
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Posted - 2011.11.24 09:32:00 -
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Asking for a 1v1 after the fight starts is a little late. Also, it sounds like they never said they agreed to anything, so you really can't call them dishonorable. You got ganked, deal with it. The only time you can legitimately complain about this is when both parties agree to certain conditions (ie 1v1, 2v2, 5v1 or whatever) and then they are violated. But that didn't happen in this case from the looks of it. |
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Crest Washere
T.R.I.A.D
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 10:52:00 -
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Tusker code
Quote:I don't engage in consensual PVP (1-vs-1's or duels), for I wish to engage others only on my terms, and other pilots may be dishonorable. But as for me, should I ever accept a 1-vs.-1 or a duel, I shall honor it. They wouldn't have agreed anyway.
You asked for a 1-v-1 after you started a fight with a known pirate, surely he will respect that... You made a mistake, this doesn't make the other party weak or without honor.
blame yourself for this foolish mistake and go on without trying to ruin the reputation of one of couple "honorable" pirate corps out there. |
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
20
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Posted - 2011.11.24 11:05:00 -
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Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further.
However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once.
P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc. |
Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q
8
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Posted - 2011.11.24 12:15:00 -
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I've only had one fight with a Tusker but it was my most enjoyable 1vs1 yet. So if I'm going to submit a sweeping statement based on a single encounter, I would say all Tuskers are fine pilots and class acts. Music for robots, hackers, pirates, geeks and miscellaneous nerds. |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 12:57:00 -
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Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further. However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once. P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc.
"The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps?
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
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Keltaris Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:08:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
My douche detectors going crazy here
Transfer you 58 million ISK and you will consider the matter closed?
Your tears are so tasty, either post chat logs to him as requested or shut up, spouting your whiney ass mouth on the thread just makes you look a tool |
Nihi Lismus
ScrapYard Wolves Laika.
29
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:13:00 -
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Tirelion wrote:Also your a complete idiot if you think ANYONE will agree to a 1v1 after a fight has started. That's pretty ******** on your part. Grow a brain cell. lol... the only thing, that shadow cartel is doing, are docking games at station with 20 Abaddons and 3++ Triage Archons... sure, everyone who doesn't have that backUp must be stupid xD |
Jin Shugo
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:16:00 -
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Keltaris Cesaille wrote:Jin Shugo wrote:
Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf.
Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
My douche detectors going crazy here Transfer you 58 million ISK and you will consider the matter closed? Your tears are so tasty, either post chat logs to him as requested or shut up, spouting your whiney ass mouth on the thread just makes you look a tool
We already had one douche in this thread there isn't room for another. Again with the childish name calling, go back to Wow and let the men settle this matter. |
Tawa Suyo
The Tuskers
1
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:17:00 -
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Jin Shugo wrote:Suleiman Shouaa wrote:Hi Jin, I'm a Tusker Director. If you feel you have been wronged and one (or more) of us have broken our Code http://www.the-tuskers.info/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63 (e.g. you requested a 1v1, one of us agreed and then the rest of us warped in) feel free to send me relevant chatlogs and I'll investigate it further. However, at the moment it seems that you wanted a way out of a tight situation. If this is the case, I suggest asking for a 1v1 before the fight starts. Our pilots will occasionally accept them but always honor them if you're not willing to take on 4 of us at once. P.S. Might want to carry more than T1 missiles - faction (Caldari) missile do 20% more damage. If you need any more help with your fittings, feel free to contact me ingame or any other Tusker. Best place to start would be our Public Channel - "The Tuskers Public Channel" where we discuss fittings as well as news etc. "The requested topic does not exist" ?. Bad link. Smoke and mirrors perhaps? Transfer me 58 mill isk for my loss and I will consider the matter closed and acknowledge your corp mates acted honorably after the fact and the payment is a correction to an oversight on their behalf. Your pilots warped into the belt where a 1vs1 was happening and I requested they not engage before they did so. They were 40-50 kms out so they had to time to honor the request. Either acknowledge they are cowards who can't handle a 1vs1 or pay my owed isk. Either of those choices will close the matter and your corp's honor, or lack there of it, will be acknowledged.
Not a bad link, our forum host is just awful currently (upgraded a few days ago, had about 30% uptime since then). Please try again later I'm sure...
If you could provide a copy of the chat log where a 1v1 was agreed to prior to the fight rather than just screaming '1v1! 1v1! 1v1!' in local after the rest of the gang landed on grid when you attacked a bait ship then I'm sure the mattered can be settled in a sensible and mature manner (you know, not whining on official forums, contacting official corp representitives in game, that kind of thing).
I'm not entirely sure how you think what amounts to a blackmail attempt ('pay me and I will publicly declare you honourable') is a morally superior attitude to that of my corpmates.
If you'd like a fairer fight then you are welcome to come to Hev and declare that you're looking for a fair solo fight. While we don't generally agree to 1v1s, you'll find a lot of us like gfgf more than killmails and there are plenty of Tusker pilots who enjoy testing themselves in solo combat and will happily rage on vent if the rest of the corp tries interfering in their hunt/fight/kill...
Otherwise, feel free to engage things in top belt OMS and then claim that calling for a 1v1 after you're pointed/half dead because other ships landed on grid is a legitimate grievance. |
Tawa Suyo
The Tuskers
1
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:20:00 -
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Destru Kaneda wrote:I've only had one fight with a Tusker but it was my most enjoyable 1vs1 yet. So if I'm going to submit a sweeping statement based on a single encounter, I would say all Tuskers are fine pilots and class acts.
This is gross slander and will not stand!
Personally I'm both awful at EvE and a terrible person. |
Thestarling
Repo.
9
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Posted - 2011.11.24 13:44:00 -
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Tawa Suyo wrote:Destru Kaneda wrote:I've only had one fight with a Tusker but it was my most enjoyable 1vs1 yet. So if I'm going to submit a sweeping statement based on a single encounter, I would say all Tuskers are fine pilots and class acts. This is gross slander and will not stand! Personally I'm both awful at EvE and a terrible person.
Confirming this is true.
I also had a similar experience with the Tuskers, and I also raged for a few days, albeit mostly to my wife and two poodles. Somehow this poor corp has got the reputation that they *always* fight fair and would never blob or fight at anything more than a disadvantage. Such high and unreasonable expectations, no one could succeed in EVE if they acted that way.
The truth is, and if you did your research and took a peek at their killboard it would be obvious, they fight like any other pirate/FW/null sec corp. Which means, they kill you any way they can.
What sets them apart from the crowd is that they do what they say in-game. Which is pretty damn honorable for a bunch of internet space pirates.
Thestarling Repossession Agent http://www.repo-corp.net/ Recruitment is OPEN |
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