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Abrah
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Posted - 2006.07.31 15:58:00 -
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Everyone knows what a Raven is , a Crow a Chimrea a Wyvern etc. But do you know who was Erebus (gallente titan name) or Charon (caldari frighter) , Nyx or Moros ? How about Leviathan ? Etc.
Whell here are some nice storyes behind the ship names in Eve:
Erebus Nyx Thanatos Moros Charon :
In Greek mythology Erebus or +rebos (Έρεβος) was a primordial god, the personification of darkness. He was the offspring of Chaos alone. He was brother of Nyx and father of Aether by himself. With Nyx, he fathered Thanatos, Hypnos, Hemera, Moros, Charon, and the Keres.
According to some later legends, Erebus was part of Hades, the underworld. It was where the dead had to pass immediately after dying. After Charon ferried them across the river Acheron, they entered Tartarus, the underworld proper. Erebus was often used as a synonym for Hades, the Greek god of the underworld. Also, Erebus was the name of the gloomy space through which souls passed on their way to Hades.
The word is probably from Proto-Indo-European language, *h1regwos, cognate to Old Norse rœkkr, Gothic riqis "darkness", Sanskrit rajani "night", Tocharian orkSm "darkness". Another suggestion is a loan from Semitic, c.f. Hebrew erebh and Akkadian erebu "sunset, evening" (hence, "darkness"). The same etymology of "sunset" has been suggested for Europe.
Leviathan(caldari titan):
The word Leviathan is also mentioned in Rashi's commentary on Genesis 1:21: "God created the great sea monsters - Taninim." Jastrow translates the word "Taninim" as a "sea monster, crocodile or large snake". Rashi comments: "According to legend this refers to the Leviathan and its mate. God created a male and female Leviathan, then killed the female and salted it for the righteous, for if the Leviathans were to procreate the world could not stand before them."
The word "Leviathan" appears five times in the Bible: Isaiah 27:1: "In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea." Psalms 74:14: "Thou didst crush the heads of the Leviathan, thou didst give him for food to the desert people." Psalms 104:25,26: "O Lord, how manifold thy works, in wisdom you have created them all. So is this great and wide sea... there go the ships and the Leviathan which you have created to play with"; Book of Job 3:8 "Lo let the night be solitary, let no joyful cry be heard in it. Let them curse it who curse the day who are ready to awake the Leviathan"; Book of Job 41:1-34: "Can you draw out a Leviathan with a hook or press down its tongue with a cord? Canst thou put a hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a bridle ring? Will he make many supplications to thee? Will he speak soft words to thee? Will he make a covenant with thee? To take him for thy servant forever? Will thou play with him as with a bird? Or wilt thou bind him for thy girls? Will the tradesmen heap up payment for him?... Lay thy hand upon him, thou will no more think of fighting. Behold the hope of him is in vain, shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? None is so fierce that dare stir him up. who then is able to stand before me?...Who can open the doors of his face? His teeth are terrible round about. His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. One is near to the another, that no air can come between them. They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. By his [sneezing] a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of morning. Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth....His heart is as firms as stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone....He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rott
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Abrah
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Posted - 2006.07.31 16:06:00 -
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picture of leviathan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Destruction_of_Leviathan.png also more info about it on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
Nidhoggur (minmatar mothership):
In Norse mythology, Nf=h÷ggr (Malice Striker, often anglicized Nidhogg[1]) is a dragon who eats the roots of the World Tree, Yggdrasill. According to the Gylfaginning part of Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda, Nf=h÷ggr is a being which gnaws one of the three roots of Yggdrasill. This root is placed over Niflheimr and Nf=h÷ggr gnaws it from beneath. The same source also says that "[t]he squirrel called Ratat÷skr runs up and down the length of the Ash, bearing envious words between the eagle and Nfdh÷ggr"[2].
Snorri does not specify what kind of being Nf=h÷ggr is. All he knew about him seems to come from two of the Eddic poems; Grfmnismßl and V÷luspß.
more info at : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nf=h÷ggr (also some poems included)
Ragnarok (minmatar titan) In Norse mythology, Ragnar÷k (fate of the gods[1]) is the battle at the end of the world. It would supposedly be waged between the gods (the ¦sir, led by Odin) and their aggressors (the fire giants, the Jotuns and various monsters, led by Loki). Not only will some of the gods, giants, and monsters perish in this apocalyptic conflagration, but almost everything in the universe will be torn asunder.
In Viking warrior societies, dying in battle is admirable. This is carried over into the worship of a pantheon in which the gods themselves will one day be overthrown at Ragnar÷k. Exactly what will happen, who will fight whom, and the fates of the participants in this battle are well known to the Norse peoples from their own sagas and skaldic poetry. The V÷luspß (Prophecy of the v÷lva (sybil)), the first lay of the Poetic Edda, dating from about 1000 AD, spans the history of the gods, from the beginning of time to Ragnar÷k, in 65 stanzas. The Prose Edda, written two centuries later by Snorri Sturluson, describes in detail what would take place before, during, and even after the battle.
What is unique about Ragnar÷k as an eschatological myth is its emphasis on the idea that the gods already know through prophecy what is going to happen: when the event will occur, who will be slain by whom, and so forth. They even realize that they are powerless to prevent Ragnar÷k. But they will still bravely and defiantly face their bleak destiny. This is thought by many scholars to represent the ordered world (the ¦sir) eventually succumbing the unavoidable forces of chaos and entropy (the Giants). This is similar to the representation of the monstrous children of Uranus in Greek mythology as the primordial forces of chaos. _________________________________________________________
anyway...if you like these things just type the name of the shi in search field at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Brutus Julius
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Posted - 2006.07.31 16:12:00 -
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Good read, thanks for the info
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 16:42:00 -
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Huginn & Muninn were Odin's ravens.
Sleipnirr was Odins 8-legged horse.
Ares was the god of war in greek times.
etc.
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Zaphod Jones
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2006.07.31 16:49:00 -
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head to http://www.pantheon.org/ (the Encyclopedia Mythica) for info on any further info
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.07.31 19:00:00 -
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I named my Wolf Lycaeus
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Da Beast
The Collective
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Posted - 2006.07.31 19:30:00 -
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I name my Raven Ymir and my 2 Crows ¦gir and T²r
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Azrael Bierce
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.31 19:40:00 -
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Godchecker is also a great source for Mythology stuff.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.07.31 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2006 19:52:47 Can we please move away from the constopated mythology names on everything and just have some fictional ones, name them after planets, solarsystems, whatever, no more Earth mythos!
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.31 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Azrael Bierce Godchecker is also a great source for Mythology stuff.
That site must be wrong coz I wasn't in their db
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2006.07.31 20:33:00 -
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Apples anyone?
need to update my signature,imagine a pink dread in here with flowers It¦s either a CCP employee, a foreigner or a combination of both.
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spiralJunkie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.31 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2006 19:52:47 Can we please move away from the constopated mythology names on everything and just have some fictional ones, name them after planets, solarsystems, whatever, no more Earth mythos!
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
it's constIpated.
and what's made you so angry?
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Phaige
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.31 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia Apples anyone?
Oooh watch out guys, the ladies are at it again
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AlienBreed
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Posted - 2006.07.31 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: AlienBreed on 31/07/2006 21:25:30 alot of names in eve are also real celestial objects altho admitted many of these are also named after gods and mythology
nix and charon are both orbiting pluto
another space connection for those of you that have noticed there is an ore scanner named "dactyl" which is a small lump of rock orbiting the asteriod ida 243 interestingly "dactyl" is in wikipedia "In Greek mythology, the Dactyls (Greek for "fingers") were the archaic race of small phallic male beings associated with the Great Mother"
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.31 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia Apples anyone?
Ahh yes, I hear you caused quite a stir at a godly beauty contest with your apples...
Still, ended well though. Only the Trojan War after all. ------
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AlienBreed
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Posted - 2006.07.31 21:34:00 -
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hmmm i typed a few more of these names into wiki and it seems just about every name in eve has this connection here are a few:
Skadi
Hel and Hel
Halcyon
i wonder how many more there are
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Sadayiel
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.31 21:54:00 -
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as other ppl may just stated long time ago.
caldari = animals mostly birds/felines/canines gallente = greek mithology (or maybe latin based on wich words they use) minmatar = nordic mythology ammar = Christian refered names and mythology
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.07.31 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: spiralJunkie
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2006 19:52:47 Can we please move away from the constopated mythology names on everything and just have some fictional ones, name them after planets, solarsystems, whatever, no more Earth mythos!
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
it's constIpated.
and what's made you so angry?
I freaking hate greek mythology, their stories are lameass tripe, did I spell that right?
Remind me about The Maze.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.31 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: AlienBreed Edited by: AlienBreed on 31/07/2006 21:25:30 alot of names in eve are also real celestial objects altho admitted many of these are also named after gods and mythology
nix and charon are both orbiting pluto
another space connection for those of you that have noticed there is an ore scanner named "dactyl" which is a small lump of rock orbiting the asteriod ida 243 interestingly "dactyl" is in wikipedia "In Greek mythology, the Dactyls (Greek for "fingers") were the archaic race of small phallic male beings associated with the Great Mother"
I think you will find this is becuase celestial objects are named after Mythological beings... not becuase Mythilogical beings are named after celestial objects...
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Grimpak
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.01 01:44:00 -
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taranis ishkur ishtar lachesis eos astarte arazu
...arazu was the most incomplete description I founded. -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.01 01:52:00 -
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Naglfari is the ship made of fingernails the dead sail on to ragnarok when the norse gods have their apocalypse.
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FFGR
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.01 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: spiralJunkie
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 31/07/2006 19:52:47 Can we please move away from the constopated mythology names on everything and just have some fictional ones, name them after planets, solarsystems, whatever, no more Earth mythos!
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
it's constIpated.
and what's made you so angry?
I freaking hate greek mythology, their stories are lameass tripe, did I spell that right?
I think that's because we left them the way they are for over 2k years and we didn't enhance them and remade them 20 times _____________________________
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.08.01 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by:
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
Umm ther is no "actual spelling smarty pants - its a translated word.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.08.01 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by:
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
Umm ther is no "actual spelling smarty pants - its a translated word.
Not around here it's not.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.08.01 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Ghoest
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Edited by:
But if you must let it be [Kraaken] not Cr@cken as some current movie try to sell. Actual spelling, Kraken.
Umm ther is no "actual spelling smarty pants - its a translated word.
Not around here it's not.
italics ftw but you know what i really hate? when you can't tell people's posts from their sigs
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Whelan Iskander
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Posted - 2006.08.02 14:50:00 -
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Not to offend anyone, but even words originating from or translated out of other languages (be they greek or roman) have spelling.
e.g. appendix (latin), companion (latin), cretin (french), gorilla (greek), gymnasium (greek), malaria (ancient italien), etc
All these words adher to fixed spelling, and it's not because they're translated that you decide how to spell them....
/me ends patronising
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.08.02 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Abrah
In Greek mythology Erebus or +rebos (Έρεβος) was a primordial god, the personification of darkness. He was the offspring of Chaos alone. He was brother of Nyx and father of Aether by himself. With Nyx, he fathered Thanatos, Hypnos, Hemera, Moros, Charon, and the Keres.
As I understand it, all these gods were collectively known as the titans. The novel Olympos by Dan Simmons explores this in an interesting way.
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Sekas
Alpha Praetorians Curse Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.03 04:30:00 -
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Jovians were a people living in whats now known as Turkey, they were Zeus fanatics and their use of plants and drinks to easier obtain religious experiences made them seem as wise. To tired to write the rest :P
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Splagada
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.03 11:28:00 -
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Pax is a clear cut from the hyperion books, same as Amarr empire looks a lot like the Pax empire from endymion and others =)
yggrdasil is also there -
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Za Po
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.03 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada Pax is a clear cut from the hyperion books, same as Amarr empire looks a lot like the Pax empire from endymion and others =)
yggrdasil is also there
Not really. "Pax" is the latin word for peace. Back then, "Pax Romana" indicated the peaceful state of the land under Roman control, and by extension the empire itself. "Yggdrasil" comes from Norse mythology. "Endymion" and "Hyperion" both come from Greek mythology. None of these terms are original in Dan Simmons' books; CCP simply got them from the same mythological sources. -------------------- Do you have a solution to the BM and instas problem? Test it against the bookmark requirements. |
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