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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5964
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:20:00 -
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IIshira wrote: I don't want to get banned for hurting someone's feelings when I blow up their ship...
If that was even remotely likely to be what happens, there'd be about 6 people subbed right now since the other 299,994 would have been banned.
Could you and your lickspittle Kaarous at least try to come up with something close to plausible to cry over. It's not that I don't like your tears. It's just that they're not as tasty when they're so easy to harvest.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1244
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:21:00 -
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M3PHIST0 wrote:So the guys scammed and trolled the hell out of people. Big Deal. Thats within EULA. If people are getting banned for trolling on teamspeak then you might as well ban half of every big alliance out there.
TBH some of the bonus room stuff went a bit too far...
I think there's a middle ground where some need to get thicker skin while others need to be a little bit more careful about what they do..
All I'm saying is make the rules clear... I don't want to be smashed by CCP for breaking some secret rule. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1245
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:24:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:IIshira wrote: I don't want to get banned for hurting someone's feelings when I blow up their ship...
If that was even remotely likely to be what happens, there'd be about 6 people subbed right now since the other 299,994 would have been banned. Could you and your lickspittle Kaarous at least try to come up with something close to plausible to cry over. It's not that I don't like your tears. It's just that they're not as tasty when they're so easy to harvest. Mr Epeen
lickspittle Kaarous?... Are you even old enough to play Eve? |
M3PHIST0
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:26:00 -
[124] - Quote
IIshira wrote:M3PHIST0 wrote:So the guys scammed and trolled the hell out of people. Big Deal. Thats within EULA. If people are getting banned for trolling on teamspeak then you might as well ban half of every big alliance out there. TBH some of the bonus room stuff went a bit too far... I think there's a middle ground where some need to get thicker skin while others need to be a little bit more careful about what they do.. All I'm saying is make the rules clear... I don't want to be smashed by CCP for breaking some secret rule.
A little clarification would be nice. I know a few of the people that got banned and they're just trolls like alot of us are, yet they got all accts perma banned. Personally I think perma ban if a bit far. A month or two would suffice just fine. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4815
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:26:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:IIshira wrote: I don't want to get banned for hurting someone's feelings when I blow up their ship...
If that was even remotely likely to be what happens, there'd be about 6 people subbed right now since the other 299,994 would have been banned. Could you and your lickspittle Kaarous at least try to come up with something close to plausible to cry over. It's not that I don't like your tears. It's just that they're not as tasty when they're so easy to harvest. Mr Epeen
Sure. Let me know when you've been doxed and had your family threatened by players in the game, and CCP does nothing about it. I get what you're saying, I do, but the inconsistency is undeniable when you've experienced it first hand. I even put up the evidence of it for people to see and was dismissed as 'crying'. I assure you, I never cried a tear. The people responsible had a little visit from the police and, unfortunately, the rest is subject to a nondisclosure agreement, but I can tell you this much - the police gave me some information that will allow me to hold CCP fully accountable to the law should it ever happen again based on their own decisions in policy management so far.
So I'm not crying. I'm hoping I don't get doxed again but, there's also a small part of me that hopes I do. I love EVE, and I love CCP too. I love them so much that I just can't allow them to fall for the trap of double standards. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5964
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:28:00 -
[126] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:IIshira wrote: I don't want to get banned for hurting someone's feelings when I blow up their ship...
If that was even remotely likely to be what happens, there'd be about 6 people subbed right now since the other 299,994 would have been banned. Could you and your lickspittle Kaarous at least try to come up with something close to plausible to cry over. It's not that I don't like your tears. It's just that they're not as tasty when they're so easy to harvest. Mr Epeen Sure. Let me know when you've been doxed and had your family threatened by players in the game, and CCP does nothing about it. I get what you're saying, I do, but the inconsistency is undeniable when you've experienced it first hand. I even put up the evidence of it for people to see and was dismissed as 'crying'. I assure you, I never cried a tear. The people responsible had a little visit from the police and, unfortunately, the rest is subject to a nondisclosure agreement, but I can tell you this much - the police gave me some information that will allow me to hold CCP fully accountable to the law should it ever happen again based on their own decisions in policy management so far. So I'm not crying. I'm hoping I don't get doxed again but, there's also a small part of me that hopes I do. I love EVE, and I love CCP too. I love them so much that I just can't allow them to fall for the trap of double standards.
Uh oh.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
1456
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:30:00 -
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They stood next to the sign looking out at the long grass. Right next to them was a sign reading 'Danger, Minefield'
"Where are the mines?" The thin one asked.
"Out there, somewhere." The man with the mustache replied.
"But I want to know where, so I can go into the field anytime I want."
"Not gonna happen. You con go play there, though I will think you stupid for doing so and I'd appreciate if you would let me walk back a ways, I just had this jacket cleaned." The teeth glinted as a smile grew.
"But what about back there? Are there mines there?" The thin man pointed to where they had been for days.
"Doubt it. We been there for a long time and ain't nobody blown up yet. Nah. Sign says over there and I tend to believe it."
"But what if I want to know for sure? Where the edges are."
The grin widened even more. "Let somebody else go first. Like I said, I'll be over there making a drink and watching from a safe distance. There are lots of fields to play in, that one never was to my taste and so I don't see that the minefield makes that big a difference. Those who go play there, well that would be Darwinism at its best, eh?"
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9 |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4815
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:30:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Uh oh. Mr Epeen
No, I'm honestly hoping it doesn't come to that at all. If it happens again, the very first thing I'll do is go through the proper channels of the petition system, as I did last time, in the hope that CCP does what they're apparently committed to doing - making their online community a secure environment where real life harassment is not allowed to perpetuate.
I'm 100% down with that ideal. I just want to see them enforce it with consistency.
This particular situation though, I've already gotten more involved that I wanted to. I was really just gonna post that link to make people think, and then **** off but, I can't say I'm not annoyed with the lack of information and clarity here. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Rhiannon Marius
Marius Family Enterprises Unlimited
38
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:32:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:They stood next to the sign looking out at the long grass. Right next to them was a sign reading 'Danger, Minefield' "Where are the mines?" The thin one asked. "Out there, somewhere." The man with the mustache replied. "But I want to know where, so I can go into the field anytime I want." "Not gonna happen. You con go play there, though I will think you stupid for doing so and I'd appreciate if you would let me walk back a ways, I just had this jacket cleaned." The teeth glinted as a smile grew. "But what about back there? Are there mines there?" The thin man pointed to where they had been for days. "Doubt it. We been there for a long time and ain't nobody blown up yet. Nah. Sign says over there and I tend to believe it." "But what if I want to know for sure? Where the edges are." The grin widened even more. " Let somebody else go first. Like I said, I'll be over there making a drink and watching from a safe distance. There are lots of fields to play in, that one never was to my taste and so I don't see that the minefield makes that big a difference. Those who go play there, well that would be Darwinism at its best, eh?" m
Perfect.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9635
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:34:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Uh oh. Mr Epeen No, I'm honestly hoping it doesn't come to that at all. If it happens again, the very first thing I'll do is go through the proper channels of the petition system, as I did last time, in the hope that CCP does what they're apparently committed to doing - making their online community a secure environment where real life harassment is not allowed to perpetuate. I'm 100% down with that ideal. I just want to see them enforce it with consistency.
They won't. There are two sets of rules, for two kinds of players.
That's what I've been forced to conclude since the guy who told me that (and keep in mind that I cleaned it up a lot) he hopes I get aids and give it to my wife, is somehow still playing the game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4816
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:38:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Uh oh. Mr Epeen No, I'm honestly hoping it doesn't come to that at all. If it happens again, the very first thing I'll do is go through the proper channels of the petition system, as I did last time, in the hope that CCP does what they're apparently committed to doing - making their online community a secure environment where real life harassment is not allowed to perpetuate. I'm 100% down with that ideal. I just want to see them enforce it with consistency. They won't. There are two sets of rules, for two kinds of players. That's what I've been forced to conclude since the guy who told me that (and keep in mind that I cleaned it up a lot) he hopes I get aids and give it to my wife, is somehow still playing the game.
My real life mother and sister were mentioned by name, along with a list of things the player suggested he'd like to do them. They are still playing the game today, I have them on watchlist. I have no idea who else they've treated this way. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9635
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:38:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote: *snip*
Close, but no cigar.
It's more like a man who wakes up one day to find a sign that says "minefield" on his front yard, where he's lived for a while without any problems.
People tell him, "oh, just figure it out for yourself".
Does that man have a right to be upset, or not? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
11929
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:39:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:IIshira wrote: I don't want to get banned for hurting someone's feelings when I blow up their ship...
If that was even remotely likely to be what happens, there'd be about 6 people subbed right now since the other 299,994 would have been banned. Could you and your lickspittle Kaarous at least try to come up with something close to plausible to cry over. It's not that I don't like your tears. It's just that they're not as tasty when they're so easy to harvest. Mr Epeen
If you can go ahead and explain where this post by Falcon falls with relation to the harassment described in this thread. I'm having trouble sorting out the difference.
I'm failing to see a clear distinction because:
CCP Falcon wrote:
Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.
...
The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.
...
EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.
Stop tolling me. Im jnot drunk...-áIm going to stop posti --Pepper the Penguin ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Rhiannon Marius
Marius Family Enterprises Unlimited
38
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:43:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Mike Azariah wrote: *snip* Close, but no cigar. It's more like a man who wakes up one day to find a sign that says "minefield" on his front yard, where he's lived for a while without any problems. People tell him, "oh, just figure it out for yourself". Does that man have a right to be upset, or not?
Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine? Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up? If you have stepped on one you now know better. If not you either know by now how to avoid one, or you cannot learn how to avoid one. |
Solecist Project
9894
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:43:00 -
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You wrote this post WHILE talking to me ... ... and you still don't get it?
Let me explain it for you, in a mail ... ... but first I have to calm down, because that was really mean ....... ~ Quest for Peace: OP success ~ ~ This subscription ends on 7/11. Until then you have to live with me. ~ ~ You will reach me ingame/per mails only. I am not reading forums at all. ~
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9636
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:47:00 -
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Rhiannon Marius wrote: Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine?
Since we're still keeping with the analogy, yes, I have, once.
A GM once told me that putting up lowball buy orders in Osmon or other Sisters of EVE areas is considered "taking advantage of new players".
Quote: Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up?
Since they refuse to talk about it, I don't know if I have or not. I run shitloads of scams, for example.
Quote: If you have stepped on one you now know better.
No, you don't. Because typically, you're "dead". And if you're not "dead", you're left scratching your head as to why the eff you just got told that trying to buy LP items at a low price is against the rules.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5964
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:50:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Uh oh. Mr Epeen No, I'm honestly hoping it doesn't come to that at all. If it happens again, the very first thing I'll do is go through the proper channels of the petition system, as I did last time, in the hope that CCP does what they're apparently committed to doing - making their online community a secure environment where real life harassment is not allowed to perpetuate. I'm 100% down with that ideal. I just want to see them enforce it with consistency. This particular situation though, I've already gotten more involved that I wanted to. I was really just gonna post that link to make people think, and then **** off but, I can't say I'm not annoyed with the lack of information and clarity here.
Sorry. I meant something else than you think with my 'Uh oh'. I posted quickly to save the quote.
You see, it struck me that you were posting with the wrong personality. You answered for Kaarous with the same back story as Kaarous so I naturally assumed you were actually Kaarous. Also, comparing doxxing to what I originally quoted (being banned for blowing up a ship) is also what I'd expect Kaarous to say.
I think you can see how I was confused.
But I'll tell you now. I'm going to be paying special attention to the posting from you two
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1245
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:52:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Mike Azariah wrote: *snip* Close, but no cigar. It's more like a man who wakes up one day to find a sign that says "minefield" on his front yard, where he's lived for a while without any problems. People tell him, "oh, just figure it out for yourself". Does that man have a right to be upset, or not?
I wouldn't have a problem with CCP's go ahead and find out what will get you banned if I shot at NPC's and asteroid belts all day. Some of the carebear crowd is just gleeful about this.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20741
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:53:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: A GM once told me that putting up lowball buy orders in Osmon or other Sisters of EVE areas is considered "taking advantage of new players".
I'm boned then, been doing it for years.
Quote: No, you don't. Because typically, you're "dead". And if you're not "dead", you're left scratching your head as to why the eff you just got told that trying to buy LP items at a low price is against the rules.
double boned
The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Clara Pond
Never Not Snazzy
84
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:55:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:They stood next to the sign looking out at the long grass. Right next to them was a sign reading 'Danger, Minefield'
Do you think it's a problem that The Mittani got away with a one month ban for inciting widespread RL harassment, or that botters get multiple warnings, while these people are getting zero warning permabans for crossing an invisible line?
Why, in the face of such subjective and ill-defined offences, are zero-warning permabans justified?
Sorry I tried to keep your analogy going, but it doesn't really apply because the whole world is a minefield, but the mines only exist when people get upset. |
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Rhiannon Marius
Marius Family Enterprises Unlimited
38
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:55:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Rhiannon Marius wrote: Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine?
Since we're still keeping with the analogy, yes, I have, once. A GM once told me that putting up lowball buy orders in Osmon or other Sisters of EVE areas is considered "taking advantage of new players". Quote: Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up?
Since they refuse to talk about it, I don't know if I have or not. I run shitloads of scams, for example. Quote: If you have stepped on one you now know better.
No, you don't. Because typically, you're "dead". And if you're not "dead", you're left scratching your head as to why the eff you just got told that trying to buy LP items at a low price is against the rules.
Sigh, some people, they just don't get it. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1245
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:55:00 -
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Rhiannon Marius wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Mike Azariah wrote: *snip* Close, but no cigar. It's more like a man who wakes up one day to find a sign that says "minefield" on his front yard, where he's lived for a while without any problems. People tell him, "oh, just figure it out for yourself". Does that man have a right to be upset, or not? Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine? Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up? If you have stepped on one you now know better. If not you either know by now how to avoid one, or you cannot learn how to avoid one.
So wait till someone gets banned and don't copy what they did. Slight problem with this is CCP doesn't always make their bans and reasons for them public. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9637
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:58:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: A GM once told me that putting up lowball buy orders in Osmon or other Sisters of EVE areas is considered "taking advantage of new players".
I'm boned then, been doing it for years. Quote: No, you don't. Because typically, you're "dead". And if you're not "dead", you're left scratching your head as to why the eff you just got told that trying to buy LP items at a low price is against the rules.
double boned
Which is why I have a problem with all of this.
No one can tell me that I won't just randomly face account action for doing something I've been doing for years.
Because I already have. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
36
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Posted - 2014.09.11 06:59:00 -
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IIshira wrote:
Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine? Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up? If you have stepped on one you now know better. If not you either know by now how to avoid one, or you cannot learn how to avoid one.
So wait till someone gets banned and don't copy what they did. Slight problem with this is CCP doesn't always make their bans and reasons for them public. [/quote]
To me at least, and hopefully to others as well, the recordings I listened to were sufficiently appalling that the bans were warranted under any conceivable definition of harassment. It would be one thing if people were getting permabanned for legitimately borderline conduct, but this is really not a good example of that. Anyone involved knew clear as day that they were doing something deeply wrong, and quite rightfully are now facing the music. |
Solecist Project
9895
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:01:00 -
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The fact that there is even discussion here just shows how disconnected people are from actual reality.
While it saddens me that DJ got banned, I understand the decision behind it completely.
The hard part is making him realise himself ....... ~ Quest for Peace: OP success ~ ~ This subscription ends on 7/11. Until then you have to live with me. ~ ~ You will reach me ingame/per mails only. I am not reading forums at all. ~
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation DemSal Unlimited
1458
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:04:00 -
[146] - Quote
Clara Pond wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:They stood next to the sign looking out at the long grass. Right next to them was a sign reading 'Danger, Minefield' Do you think it's a problem that The Mittani got away with a one month ban for inciting widespread RL harassment, or that botters get multiple warnings, while these people are getting zero warning permabans for crossing an invisible line? Why, in the face of such subjective and ill-defined offences, are zero-warning permabans justified? Sorry I tried to keep your analogy going, but it doesn't really apply because the whole world is a minefield, but the mines only exist when people get upset.
Understand that CSM have next to nothing to do with enforcement and punishment so any opinions I have about various bans are just that, MY opinions.
If Mittens pulled that today? Yeah, gone, no deposit, no return.
They have, recently, shortened the chain and strikes for botters. Again, I have little tolerance for such and so have no problem shortening that leash even more. But that is a different department in CCP, I think.
So I guess that means that the current bans are consistent with my model.
And the whole world IS a minefield. The Real World has more laws than any lawyer can keep track of. More mistakes that you can make than anybody can track. So you avoid the big obvious ones that have signs on them. Take your chances with the rest. Falcon has been fairly steady and consistent. Cross lines, BOOM. I notice you didn't mention any lottery sites so I won't either.
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9 |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1247
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:04:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:IIshira wrote:
Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine? Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up? If you have stepped on one you now know better. If not you either know by now how to avoid one, or you cannot learn how to avoid one.
So wait till someone gets banned and don't copy what they did. Slight problem with this is CCP doesn't always make their bans and reasons for them public.
To me at least, and hopefully to others as well, the recordings I listened to were sufficiently appalling that the bans were warranted under any conceivable definition of harassment. It would be one thing if people were getting permabanned for legitimately borderline conduct, but this is really not a good example of that. Anyone involved knew clear as day that they were doing something deeply wrong, and quite rightfully are now facing the music. [/quote]
Start of my reply.....
Welcome Veers... I was wondering when you would get to this thread.
Oh I agree with you that the bonus room stuff wasn't too nice. The problem is some caught up in the latest ban sweep weren't involved in that..
All I'm asking is make it clear what is bad. You can keep the gray area but like say "Making fun of other players in local chat is prohibited". The last thing I want is to do something I thought was okay then get banned
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M3PHIST0
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:04:00 -
[148] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:IIshira wrote:
Exactly how many times have stepped on a land mine? Have you been doing the things that got the others blown up? If you have stepped on one you now know better. If not you either know by now how to avoid one, or you cannot learn how to avoid one.
So wait till someone gets banned and don't copy what they did. Slight problem with this is CCP doesn't always make their bans and reasons for them public.
To me at least, and hopefully to others as well, the recordings I listened to were sufficiently appalling that the bans were warranted under any conceivable definition of harassment. It would be one thing if people were getting permabanned for legitimately borderline conduct, but this is really not a good example of that. Anyone involved knew clear as day that they were doing something deeply wrong, and quite rightfully are now facing the music. [/quote]
Most coms are appalling, nobody forced these people to stay logged into coms. They chose to do so, so they could try to get their stuff back. Most people would have logged out, cut their losses and learned from it. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
36
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:08:00 -
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M3PHIST0 wrote:
Most coms are appalling, nobody forced these people to stay logged into coms. They chose to do so, so they could try to get their stuff back. Most people would have logged out, cut their losses and learned from it.
The scam is allowed. It would have been legit for them to tell the guy - sorry bro, it was all a scam, we took your isk, better luck next time. Pushing it to the next level and getting someone to do embarrassing things on coms in the false and vain hope of getting their own isk back is the problem. The good news is its easy to avoid the same pitfall. If you scam someone just be happy that you got their stuff, no need to rub it in or make them try and do humiliating stuff to get it back. It's just so easy to avoid entirely.
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Solecist Project
9899
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Posted - 2014.09.11 07:10:00 -
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Not sure why anyone would think this is about the bonus room ... ... or the bonus room only. Was there proof?
Did I miss something?
Curious. ~ Quest for Peace: OP success ~ ~ This subscription ends on 7/11. Until then you have to live with me. ~ ~ You will reach me ingame/per mails only. I am not reading forums at all. ~
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