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Wedgie Nelson
Dogs of Capitalism Stellar Trade Clearinghouse
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Posted - 2014.10.15 02:00:05 -
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I'm sorry the thing that is missing here is it seems like an awful lot of work. I don't mind working hard as long as I'm having fun. I can make my 4 bil a month just by setting my prices 2 times a day (15 -20 min of my time) and still have fun playing EVE. If running around picking up trade goods from system to system for 4 hours a night is fun for you, you should just stay at work. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
432
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Posted - 2014.10.15 02:14:03 -
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Wedgie Nelson wrote:I'm sorry the thing that is missing here is it seems like an awful lot of work. I don't mind working hard as long as I'm having fun. I can make my 4 bil a month just by setting my prices 2 times a day (15 -20 min of my time) and still have fun playing EVE. If running around picking up trade goods from system to system for 4 hours a night is fun for you, you should just stay at work.
it's not, takes about 10 minutes per day to haul the entire syndicate. You just have to have prepositioned cynos in each station.
For highsec you just load a super-tanked freighter with a small not worthy of ganking amount and just autopilot it while doing other stuff. You basically make 50-100m in 10 clicks. It's not instant gratification that's true, you have to wait a day or two for your order to sell through. |
Franco DiMario
MBR Industries
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Posted - 2014.10.20 11:03:59 -
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Looks promising.
I have to test this |
Rumbaldi
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.10.21 13:47:27 -
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Quote:You just have to have prepositioned cynos in each station.
Surely with the jump changes coming this is going to affect what you do?
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
432
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Posted - 2014.10.22 09:23:10 -
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Rumbaldi wrote:Quote:You just have to have prepositioned cynos in each station. Surely with the jump changes coming this is going to affect what you do?
I preposition 5 cynos - 1 cyno to cover ZN0-SR, 1 cyno to cover X-BV and FD-MLJ and 1 cyno to cover 4 other stations including TXW. And 1 cyno in Maut.
I don't use the 2 minute self-destruct trick as 2 minutes is too long of a wait. |
Arronicus
Bitter Lemons Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.10.22 17:49:59 -
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Dream Five wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Quote:You just have to have prepositioned cynos in each station. Surely with the jump changes coming this is going to affect what you do? I preposition 5 cynos - 1 cyno to cover ZN0-SR, 1 cyno to cover X-BV and FD-MLJ and 1 cyno to cover 4 other stations including TXW. And 1 cyno in Maut. I don't use the 2 minute self-destruct trick as 2 minutes is too long of a wait. I'm also unsubbing.. so it's definitely not going to affect me lol
To answer the question of whether it would affect it or not though, yes, it would. Previously, he has about a what, 60 second down time per jump, docking up, undocking, and making the next jump. After the patch, unless he wants to deal with multiplying fatigue, it will be roughly 7-8 minutes downtime per jump. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
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Posted - 2014.11.02 02:14:58 -
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Arronicus wrote:Dream Five wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Quote:You just have to have prepositioned cynos in each station. Surely with the jump changes coming this is going to affect what you do? I preposition 5 cynos - 1 cyno to cover ZN0-SR, 1 cyno to cover X-BV and FD-MLJ and 1 cyno to cover 4 other stations including TXW. And 1 cyno in Maut. I don't use the 2 minute self-destruct trick as 2 minutes is too long of a wait. I'm also unsubbing.. so it's definitely not going to affect me lol To answer the question of whether it would affect it or not though, yes, it would. Previously, he has about a what, 60 second down time per jump, docking up, undocking, and making the next jump. After the patch, unless he wants to deal with multiplying fatigue, it will be roughly 7-8 minutes downtime per jump.
Yeah, i think its about 4 min per round-trip. Multiple JFs can further alleviate that (I've been using 4 JFs to reduce the time for back and forth jumping and number of lost cynos per jump back when people still bothered to shoot them).
With recent changes it looks like you can make 4 10LY jumps in 6 mins and still have minor fatigue. Average jump range is only about 6LY though. So i would say the effect is fairly small (especially on a 4JF op :).
From CCP's fatigue example: "Frankie Flowers has an Ark, and travels 3 jumps of 10LY each. Because he has a bonus, all distances are instead treated as 1LY when calculating fatigue values. When he makes the first jump, he has no fatigue or cooldown, so incurs the minimum fatigue value (10 * (1+1) = 20 minutes) and the minimum cooldown value (1+1 = 2 minutes). When he makes the second jump, he has waited for 2 minutes, so his fatigue is 18 minutes before the jump, and 18 * (1 + 1) = 36 minutes after. His cooldown would be 1.8 minutes (10% of fatigue), but the minimum is 2 minutes so he has another 2 minute cooldown. When he makes the third jump, his fatigue is 34 minutes (waiting 2 minutes again), and becomes 34 * (1 + 1) = 68 minutes. His cooldown is 3.4 minutes, or 3 minutes 24 seconds." |
Todo Akamura
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2014.11.05 19:49:46 -
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Dream Five wrote:Rumbaldi wrote:Quote:You just have to have prepositioned cynos in each station. Surely with the jump changes coming this is going to affect what you do? I preposition 5 cynos - 1 cyno to cover ZN0-SR, 1 cyno to cover X-BV and FD-MLJ and 1 cyno to cover 4 other stations including TXW. And 1 cyno in Maut. I don't use the 2 minute self-destruct trick as 2 minutes is too long of a wait (plus none of intaki bank stations are medical so you have to warp to a medical station first) I'm also unsubbing.. so it's definitely not going to affect me lol
Can I have your stuff? |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
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Posted - 2014.12.19 13:39:27 -
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Competing orders in Orv/Maut are pretty low right now.
I dropped my buy price to 2450 so there's room for healthy margins. |
Tear Jar
Emolgranlan Code Enforcement Branch
215
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Posted - 2014.12.19 20:07:37 -
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This doesn't seem worth it over regular trading to be honest. |
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
457
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Posted - 2014.12.23 12:52:39 -
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Bumpage. Simplified the explanation a bit. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
669
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Posted - 2014.12.24 17:07:16 -
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SImple scam to kill jump freighters. Effective too, many a jump freighter made this one-way trip. They watch the volumes of trade in these commodities, they watch undocks and get toon names, and they know the route and destination. Do the math.
The math of NPC buy/sell orders and mechanics I will not disagree with, but they arent posting this so you can make isk, trust me. |
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
254
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Posted - 2014.12.25 06:03:05 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:SImple scam to kill jump freighters. Effective too, many a jump freighter made this one-way trip. They watch the volumes of trade in these commodities, they watch undocks and get toon names, and they know the route and destination. Do the math.
The math of NPC buy/sell orders and mechanics I will not disagree with, but they arent posting this so you can make isk, trust me.
can u take that helmet off, this is a public eating area "mam" ?
long limb roes taste good this time of year.
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CYNOAROUND
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.12.28 17:10:42 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:SImple scam to kill jump freighters. Effective too, many a jump freighter made this one-way trip. They watch the volumes of trade in these commodities, they watch undocks and get toon names, and they know the route and destination. Do the math.
The math of NPC buy/sell orders and mechanics I will not disagree with, but they arent posting this so you can make isk, trust me.
Perhaps, but i just offloaded a JF load and made a quick 120mil.
Thanks for the fish. |
Indycator
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.01.08 15:47:16 -
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Maybe that its works. But today when i wanna checking it found a at route Obelisk wreck full of this sh.t.
So maybe that is profitable but too risky at high scale IMO |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
266
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Posted - 2015.01.09 03:30:23 -
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I am glad I saw this thread because I was wondering why stupid stuff like roses and spiced wine were in the game. Now I know that CCP has NPCs deal with the stuff so that traders and haulers have yet something else to do. I was worried that T3 Cruisers used roses as construction material :) |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
476
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Posted - 2015.01.13 04:00:37 -
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Indycator wrote:Maybe that its works. But today when i wanna checking it found a at route Obelisk wreck full of this sh.t.
So maybe that is profitable but too risky at high scale IMO
Oh? Which system? |
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