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Arrogus Advenient
The Machine. LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.12 23:01:00 -
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I'm currently running L3's in a Drake, and I intend to eventually transition to L4's in a Rattler; unfortunately, this is a rather young character, and it will take me over 2 months of training before I can pilot one with an acceptable fit. In that time, I'd like to pilot something that will actually benefit from most of the skills I'll be training. Is there anything that fits logically between a Drake and a Rattlesnake? |
Paranoid Loyd
1827
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Posted - 2014.09.12 23:06:00 -
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Raven "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
John Ratcliffe
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2014.09.12 23:24:00 -
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The Raven gets my vote as well. I'd use something along the lines of this. With Lvl 5 skills, it gives 1010 DPS for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips. I'd progress from this to an RNI, then to a Golem. Ignore the Rattlesnake, there are far better options.
[Raven, PVE] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Shield Booster II Thermic Dissipation Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Hobgoblin II x5
Plus +ša change, plus c'est la m+Žme chose |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.13 01:26:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:The Raven gets my vote as well. I'd use something along the lines of this. With Lvl 5 skills, it gives 1010 DPS for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips. I'd progress from this to an RNI, then to a Golem. Ignore the Rattlesnake, there are far better options.
[Raven, PVE] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Shield Booster II Thermic Dissipation Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Hobgoblin II x5
Typo with the price tag?
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
552
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Posted - 2014.09.13 02:46:00 -
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Gila.
Missiles? Check. Drones? Check. Nice resists? Check. BS level dps? Check. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Gefen Orion
Orion Star Ltd.
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Posted - 2014.09.13 03:12:00 -
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Caleidascope wrote:Gila.
Missiles? Check. Drones? Check. Nice resists? Check. BS level dps? Check.
^ ^ ^ What he said |
Paranoid Loyd
1831
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Posted - 2014.09.13 04:56:00 -
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Aerie Evingod wrote:Typo with the price tag?
Looks right to me.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
629
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Posted - 2014.09.13 05:01:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Aerie Evingod wrote:Typo with the price tag?
Looks right to me.
with the t2 rigs yarp. although probably worth buying a CNR and just going with t1 rigs if you are spending that much. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Paranoid Loyd
1831
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Posted - 2014.09.13 05:56:00 -
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You know, i'm thinking probably should go Gila, you can use it in the level 3s while you train up drones/BS skills and figure out how to use the ship without taking on the added DPS of the level 4s. Also saves you from that awful BS warp speed until you are sufficiently trained for the Rattler. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Arrogus Advenient
The Machine. LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.13 05:59:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:The Raven gets my vote as well. I'd use something along the lines of this. With Lvl 5 skills, it gives 1010 DPS for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips. I'd progress from this to an RNI, then to a Golem. Ignore the Rattlesnake, there are far better options.
I'm not looking to maximize isk/hr, I just really like the play style of the Rattlesnake.
Caleidascope wrote:Gila.
Missiles? Check. Drones? Check. Nice resists? Check. BS level dps? Check.
Wow, how did I miss this? It looks great! |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13175
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Posted - 2014.09.13 06:11:00 -
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[Raven, mission]
Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor I
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Large Micro Jump Drive Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Amplifier II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II Heavy Capacitor Booster II
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Faster than any cruiser at missions. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Dato Koppla
Elite Guards
679
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Posted - 2014.09.13 10:24:00 -
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Basic PvE Gila, can handle L3s easily and even L4s with some extra tank. Does around 900dps:
[Gila, PvE]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
10MN Afterburner II Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster EM Ward Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell Drone Navigation Computer II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile [Empty High slot]
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Hammerhead II x2 'Augmented' Hammerhead x2 |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
552
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Posted - 2014.09.13 16:03:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Caleidascope wrote:Gila.
Missiles? Check. Drones? Check. Nice resists? Check. BS level dps? Check. You know, i'm thinking probably should go Gila, you can use it in the level 3s while you train up drones/BS skills and figure out how to use the ship without taking on the added DPS of the level 4s. Also saves you from that awful BS warp speed until you are sufficiently trained for the Rattler. Care to share your fit? I have been running some L3 in Gila without any problems, but I don't do it full time, I just needed to griind some standing and move up to L4. For L4 I use Typhoon, Raven, Navy Raven.
I have done DED 4/10, DED 5/10 in Gila. So if you can compare them to L4, then yes, Gila can do L4.
One Gila fit I got is: 4x t2 hml (118.8 dps) 1x t1 drone link
1x t1 10mn ab 1x civi shield booster 1x t1 active shield resist 2x t1 passive shield resist 1x t2 lse
1x t2 dc 3x t2 dda
4x salvage drones 3 or more t2 hammerheads (634.7 dps)
3x t1 purger rigs
I have another Gila fit with two t2 lse on another char, dps wise they are the same since the only modules different between two fits are the drone link, resist mods and number of lse.
I have not used it in l4, but I did use it in ded 4/10 and ded 5/10, it did well.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.09.13 19:30:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:The Raven gets my vote as well. for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips.
539 million isk isn't exactly cheap for a newer player...
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.14 04:05:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:The Raven gets my vote as well. for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips.
539 million isk isn't exactly cheap for a newer player...
By the time they can fly it they can afford it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1266
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Posted - 2014.09.14 04:46:00 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:The Raven gets my vote as well. for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips.
539 million isk isn't exactly cheap for a newer player...
T2 rigs are a waste on a plain Raven IMO. You would get better performance from a Navy Raven with T1 rigs for about the same price |
Arrogus Advenient
The Machine. LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.15 17:35:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Celthric Kanerian wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:The Raven gets my vote as well. for around 539 Mil ISK. Super effective and cheap as chips.
539 million isk isn't exactly cheap for a newer player... By the time they can fly it they can afford it.
By the time I could fly and afford that, I could probably be in my Rattler. |
Elinarien
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:25:00 -
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You can fit a passive-shield Rattlesnake that's more than effective in lvl 4s so your shield skills will be shared. Also drone skills in a drake won't go amiss. |
Morukk Nuamzzar
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:10:00 -
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Arrogus Advenient wrote:I'm currently running L3's in a Drake, and I intend to eventually transition to L4's in a Rattler... What transition... why?
Drake is THE best of all ships in Eve, almost everyone knows that. Don't believe the stats though - it can be misleading and don't listen to what silly people have to say. They are ignorant.
Soo Drake! Each and every fleet is blessed to have one, any pro merc or pirate can tell you that. |
Osprey Freighter
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:33:00 -
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Morukk Nuamzzar wrote:Arrogus Advenient wrote:I'm currently running L3's in a Drake, and I intend to eventually transition to L4's in a Rattler... What transition... why? Drake is THE best of all ships in Eve, almost everyone knows that. Don't believe the stats though - it can be misleading and don't listen to what silly people have to say. They are ignorant. Soo Drake! Each and every fleet is blessed to have one, any pro merc or pirate can tell you that.
Troll. Gilas can blow through L3s fairly fast. The Rattler is currently the fastest L4 boat but requires micro to do so |
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Janeway84
Its a good day to die ORPHANS OF EVE
103
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:51:00 -
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Gila , can be flown half asleep in low class wh's and works through lower end ded complexes too! |
Arrogus Advenient
The Machine. LLC
0
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Posted - 2014.09.17 02:25:00 -
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Morukk Nuamzzar wrote:Arrogus Advenient wrote:I'm currently running L3's in a Drake, and I intend to eventually transition to L4's in a Rattler... What transition... why? Drake is THE best of all ships in Eve, almost everyone knows that. Don't believe the stats though - it can be misleading and don't listen to what silly people have to say. They are ignorant. Soo Drake! Each and every fleet is blessed to have one, any pro merc or pirate can tell you that.
I hate to be the one to tell you this but.... it's 2014. You've apparently been in a coma for 2 years. My condolences. |
Aphilas
Galaxy Engineering
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Posted - 2014.09.20 11:32:00 -
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Passive Gila. Kinda expensive boat, but can easily run any lvl4 and blitz through lvl3s.
CPU tight fit:
4xHML II 1xDone Link Augmentator I
3x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction 1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 1xGistum C-Type Em Ward Amplifier 1xGistum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
2xBeta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I 2xDrone Damage Amplifier II
3x Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
10xHammerhead II
460 omni tank 700 dps Slightly below 500mill cost. If doing lvl3s, drop some tank and get AB and some more gank. |
Voxinian
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Posted - 2014.09.20 12:10:00 -
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Scorpion Navy is imo the most chill PvE boat to fly. Using RHMLs and some painters it shreds through L3's like a warm knife through butter, you don't even need drones to speed things up. And you have plenty of cap to fit a stable MWD and strong omni resistance. And doing L4's is just a matter of changing the launchers, though rapids is also okay for a lot of L4's (if it werent for the long reload cycle). |
elitatwo
Congregatio
310
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Posted - 2014.09.20 12:13:00 -
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Nyx signature |
unslaught
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.24 10:33:00 -
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ishtar, you need drone skills so it's perfect, you have shield skills so it's perfect - a heavy drone shield tanked ishtar is epic for lvl 4's (3's are a breeze), you can fly hacs so you can fly the finest hulls in eve, you need to crosstrain for gallente anyway so it's perfect... |
Arrogus Advenient
The Machine. LLC
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 18:05:00 -
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unslaught wrote:ishtar, you need drone skills so it's perfect, you have shield skills so it's perfect - a heavy drone shield tanked ishtar is epic for lvl 4's (3's are a breeze), you can fly hacs so you can fly the finest hulls in eve, you need to crosstrain for gallente anyway so it's perfect...
Unless Ishtars get nerfed hard, I will eventually get one, but it would take me longer to skill for one than for a Rattler, so it comes after the RS as far as my progression is concerned. The Gila, on the other hand, I can jump in right now (once I save up the isk for it). |
unslaught
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:47:00 -
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Arrogus Advenient wrote:unslaught wrote:ishtar, you need drone skills so it's perfect, you have shield skills so it's perfect - a heavy drone shield tanked ishtar is epic for lvl 4's (3's are a breeze), you can fly hacs so you can fly the finest hulls in eve, you need to crosstrain for gallente anyway so it's perfect... Unless Ishtars get nerfed hard, I will eventually get one, but it would take me longer to skill for one than for a Rattler, so it comes after the RS as far as my progression is concerned. The Gila, on the other hand, I can jump in right now (once I save up the isk for it).
it is indeed a skill heavy ship, took me 6months to get hac5, heavy drone 5, sentry drone 5 and all the useable drone skills to 5 as well, only the racial specs are at lvl 4, because 19days for 2% dmg is rediculous and adv drone avionics and durability are at 4 as well. the rest is lvl 5.
well worth the time it took to train for it because of it's pve quality (pvp as well - but to expensive for my taste), you have high dps, high application of dps, good agility, fine speed even after nerf, use an ab and just speed tank 80% of incomming dps and also i haven't been a gank target because it works fine with t2 mods (and the use of d-scan ofc ;)) and the hull isn't as shiny as some bs hulls that cost over 1 bill without fitting (rattler :p).
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Arrogus Advenient
The Machine. LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.25 17:46:00 -
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unslaught wrote:.... the hull isn't as shiny as some bs hulls that cost over 1 bill without fitting (rattler :p).
Erm..... https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=17918 |
unslaught
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.09.26 11:00:00 -
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lol been a long time since i checked on them tbh...
my mistake ;) |
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