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Nico Laitanen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.15 17:12:00 -
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I'm still waiting for the dev blog to be posted in this forum section. But yes, I do want a Raptor in Ishukone colors, and also see it get some much needed love. |
Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
278
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:22:00 -
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Nico Laitanen wrote:I'm still waiting for the dev blog to be posted in this forum section. But yes, I do want a Raptor in Ishukone colors, and also see it get some much needed love.
What about the idea of turning the Heretic into a carthum laser boat? Is it fine as it is now, or do we need a laser dictor to round things out? Do you think it would step on the toes of the Retribution? |
Nico Laitanen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.09.15 18:51:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:Nico Laitanen wrote:I'm still waiting for the dev blog to be posted in this forum section. But yes, I do want a Raptor in Ishukone colors, and also see it get some much needed love. What about the idea of turning the Heretic into a carthum laser boat? Is it fine as it is now, or do we need a laser dictor to round things out? Do you think it would step on the toes of the Retribution?
A laser 'dictor would be nice, but not at the expense of losing a Khanid ship. |
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises The Marmite Collective
89
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Posted - 2014.09.15 19:12:00 -
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+1 I like your analysis of the ships and agree with the bubble immunity swap to Dictors... It lends to their Role perfectly.
One of the other main problems I have with Interceptors (even T1 Frigs) is their insane Align time. You know it's broken when another Interceptor with a 4000+ scan Res can't even begin to start a locking cycle on an inty coming through a gate. FFS, CCP needs to adjust all ships Align time Increased. Leave the Instawarp to Pods... Make Shuttles the next fastest at say 2 seconds align, then Interceptors at around 3. Then so on and so forth. Of course tweak the numbers properly but it should be entirely possible for another interceptor with an insanely high scan res to catch another interceptor... Pure and simple. eëÆWhomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my AutocannonseëÆ eÉà |
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
interstellar initiative Incorporated
271
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Posted - 2014.09.15 21:21:00 -
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Looks like if you manage to get away from gate camps or gank squads, they come here to cry out their tears about how unfair it is. I think I might just go take my OP Inty and run a mission. Wait, they don't do that? Maybe I'll take it and haul some stuff. They don't do that either? Then I'll go scan down some sites and wormholes. They're not good at that either? Well damn, it's almost like they have a niche role or something..... |
Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
279
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Posted - 2014.09.15 21:35:00 -
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Cordo Draken wrote:+1 I like your analysis of the ships and agree with the bubble immunity swap to Dictors... It lends to their Role perfectly.
One of the other main problems I have with Interceptors (even T1 Frigs) is their insane Align time. You know it's broken when another Interceptor with a 4000+ scan Res can't even begin to start a locking cycle on an inty coming through a gate. FFS, CCP needs to adjust all ships Align time Increased. Leave the Instawarp to Pods... Make Shuttles the next fastest at say 2 seconds align, then Interceptors at around 3. Then so on and so forth. Of course tweak the numbers properly but it should be entirely possible for another interceptor with an insanely high scan res to catch another interceptor... Pure and simple.
Exactly; dictors with the bubble immunity would be more sensible due to their higher align time (you could even nerf their agility a bit more to compensate). They're quite a bit easier to catch on gate anyway, so while they wouldn't be that good at getting through camps on their own normally, it would make quite a bit of sense defensively since dictors in bubble camps would be able to retreat very reliably when faced with unfavorable odds against an intruder. It fits their 'picket ship' role better. |
Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
279
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Posted - 2014.09.15 21:36:00 -
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Nico Laitanen wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:Nico Laitanen wrote:I'm still waiting for the dev blog to be posted in this forum section. But yes, I do want a Raptor in Ishukone colors, and also see it get some much needed love. What about the idea of turning the Heretic into a carthum laser boat? Is it fine as it is now, or do we need a laser dictor to round things out? Do you think it would step on the toes of the Retribution? A laser 'dictor would be nice, but not at the expense of losing a Khanid ship.
What if they offset that by turning the purifier into a Khanid boat? :D |
Eos Ramazotti
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.09.15 21:46:00 -
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Just replace all weapons bonuses on interceptors with better web and scramble bonuses. Done.
T2 is supposed to be specialized, interceptors are too efficient for solo or small group roams. Nerfing their offense forces them to a) actually fullfil their specialiced role: intercept, catch and hold for the big guys to come and shoot stuff b) need a larger number of pilots for interceptor fleets to be effective. |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries Silent Infinity
684
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Posted - 2014.09.15 22:25:00 -
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Eos Ramazotti wrote:b) need a larger number of pilots for interceptor fleets to be effective. This is all nerfing their DPS would do. Inti DPS is fine overall. The class needs very few changes. Just the Raptor and Crusader need looking at. |
Nico Laitanen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2014.09.16 00:39:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:Nico Laitanen wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:Nico Laitanen wrote:I'm still waiting for the dev blog to be posted in this forum section. But yes, I do want a Raptor in Ishukone colors, and also see it get some much needed love. What about the idea of turning the Heretic into a carthum laser boat? Is it fine as it is now, or do we need a laser dictor to round things out? Do you think it would step on the toes of the Retribution? A laser 'dictor would be nice, but not at the expense of losing a Khanid ship. What if they offset that by turning the purifier into a Khanid boat? :D
The Vengeance is pretty good, but I prefer Harpies and Hawks. The biggest problem I see with 'dictors is the lack of ships dessie V gets you. I would much rather spend training time for cruiser V and have options for hics, hacs, recons, and t3s. Maybe have 2 'dictors for each faction? Seems to work ok for every other t2 ship in game... and would be a little more efficient in terms of skill investment. |
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Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
279
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Posted - 2014.09.16 02:16:00 -
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Nico Laitanen wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:Nico Laitanen wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:Nico Laitanen wrote:I'm still waiting for the dev blog to be posted in this forum section. But yes, I do want a Raptor in Ishukone colors, and also see it get some much needed love. What about the idea of turning the Heretic into a carthum laser boat? Is it fine as it is now, or do we need a laser dictor to round things out? Do you think it would step on the toes of the Retribution? A laser 'dictor would be nice, but not at the expense of losing a Khanid ship. What if they offset that by turning the purifier into a Khanid boat? :D The Vengeance is pretty good, but I prefer Harpies and Hawks. The biggest problem I see with 'dictors is the lack of ships dessie V gets you. I would much rather spend training time for cruiser V and have options for hics, hacs, recons, and t3s. Maybe have 2 'dictors for each faction? Seems to work ok for every other t2 ship in game... and would be a little more efficient in terms of skill investment. Yeah; we need more destroyers. Opinion is split on whether they should be assault dessies or command dessies, although a second interdictor class seems like an interesting proposition, as long as they have slightly different roles/attributes. What about one that focuses specifically on extended scrambler range (not disruptor)? If you make them t2 versions of the newer dessies, they'd already be fairly slow, so it might be feasible to balance. This is getting off-topic though.
If you're interested in color/t2 manufacturer rebalance, I have another thread that (hopefully) will become unlocked in the future: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=319390&find=unread |
Longdrinks
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
98
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Posted - 2014.09.16 07:35:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Eos Ramazotti wrote:b) need a larger number of pilots for interceptor fleets to be effective. This is all nerfing their DPS would do. Inti DPS is fine overall. The class needs very few changes. Just the Raptor and Crusader need looking at. crusader is one of the best brawling intys, what do you think its missing? |
Laminar Septimar
Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.16 08:39:00 -
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Assault destroyers with medium guns for more pwnage ? Thank god it doesn't take 20 Accounts to gank a freighter anymore... |
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
479
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Posted - 2014.09.16 08:49:00 -
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Kaerakh wrote: As a hictor pilot I completely agree with your assessment. Cepters don't provide enough meaningful stat stick numbers to warrant much attention in my books. (and when they're spammed enough, you were going to die anyways because of blobbing) Especially when they don't seem to have much of a problem dying in the first place. Most of the posts I see asking for a nerf boil down to, "My bearing system isn't safe anymore. Please CCP, make me safe again." Cepters provide a fleet an effective tackle in a bubbled system until the rest of the fleet is done slow boating through the bubble fest or slugging it with the gate occupants. So yeah, it's fine. H T F U
No you werent going to die anyway. Before there were gangs of roaming ceptors there were more gangs of roaming cruisers.Which a small gang could engage and try to keep range. this isnt so much the case anymore as trying to engage an inceptor gang is only viable with a small subset of ships.
Pj Harvey wrote:Talvorian Dex wrote:Good troll, an update with no real features. You got us! . . . What's really in the expansion? This, thought the ''expansions'' had a theme these days, this is just a jumble of nothing
With 6 week expansions you cant really expect to get huge amounts of changes. |
rsantos
TEC-NOLOGY Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
15
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Posted - 2014.09.16 10:44:00 -
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Ceptors are far from untouchable...
During the last goon deployment to Delve/Querious my alliance caught around 400 interceptor in July while gate camping. |
Suitonia
Eve is Easy.
330
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Posted - 2014.09.16 11:11:00 -
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Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:Eos Ramazotti wrote:b) need a larger number of pilots for interceptor fleets to be effective. This is all nerfing their DPS would do. Inti DPS is fine overall. The class needs very few changes. Just the Raptor and Crusader need looking at.
Crusader is perfectly fine, it's a fantastic brawler. I think it's well balanced with the Claw and Taranis, all 3 offer something different while being competitive with each-other.
I think the Raptor needs small +PG bump and Low -> Mid, and it will be good. Contributer to Eve is Easy:-á https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos
Check out my PvP Rifter guide for new players; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YReUNRTGcXo |
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
222
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:00:00 -
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If anything, the popularity of interceptors really show how much people dislike bubbles. CCP should just do away with bubbles and leave it to the interceptors/interdictors. |
Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
280
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Posted - 2014.09.16 19:33:00 -
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Tenchi Sal wrote:If anything, the popularity of interceptors really shows how much people dislike bubbles. CCP should just do away with bubbles and leave it to the interceptors/interdictors. How about setting it up so only interdictors could drop warp bubbles, instead of launching the dinky interdictor probes? Possibly rebalancing the timers on warp bubbles to make them more situational than long-term deployables? |
Torsnk
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
49
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Posted - 2014.10.11 04:34:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:-Crow could use a small bump in powergrid.
YES! Please. |
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