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AnotherUseless Alt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:17:00 -
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http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
9149
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:27:00 -
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Don't we already have multiple Eve is Dying threads for today? (Hint: there's even one called "Eve is dying....")
You couldn't just use one of those. Now you're just creating work for the ISDs. Think of their children man. Give them a break.
IB4L Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
LAGL 4 LYF |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
12447
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:29:00 -
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Don't be shy. Annotate the graph for us and give us your conclusions..
lol rolling on floor.. i would probably be laughing though.. not crying --Pepper the Penguin ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
9149
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:32:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Don't be shy. Annotate the graph for us and give us your conclusions..
This would be good.
Even from just the past 3 months graph OP. That would seem the most relevant to your thread title.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
LAGL 4 LYF |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
2738
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:34:00 -
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There is no Hype in Hyperion. The idea here, to put it in graphic terms for once, is to turn s**t into gold.
http://i.minus.com/ibeZ0sJewvDMBN.gif =ƒÿü |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
12456
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:44:00 -
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Don't worry OP, I've annotated the graph for you.
lol rolling on floor.. i would probably be laughing though.. not crying --Pepper the Penguin ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
9154
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Posted - 2014.09.14 07:48:00 -
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You're on fire today. A tonne of wit in a lot of your posts. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
LAGL 4 LYF |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
150
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Posted - 2014.09.14 09:06:00 -
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what i want to know is, whats up with those 100,000 new characters in january?
edit: i fail at numbers thats 11,000 but still, dat spike |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13196
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Posted - 2014.09.14 09:16:00 -
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I'm taking a wild guess here but it maight have something to do with a litle known even that happened on the 25th of the month before. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Solecist Project
9916
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Posted - 2014.09.14 11:04:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I'm taking a wild guess here but it maight have something to do with a litle known even that happened on the 25th of the month before. Oh wow, which one?? (: :) |
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2132
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Posted - 2014.09.14 13:59:00 -
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EVE dies the "Little Death" every day... at DT...
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Captain Soju
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
33
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Posted - 2014.09.14 14:23:00 -
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Is Eve dying? no idea. Is the new monthly update system helping Eve die?
Seems like it An eternal newbie's guide to the world of Eve Online - http://captainsoju.blogspot.co.uk/ |
Hyperion Vaaxe
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.09.14 15:50:00 -
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I am touched that you dedicated a thread in my honor. Be assured that I do not plan to be content with my success to date for I have even grander plans that I will be rolling out in the future. |
Hicksimus
Torgue
321
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Posted - 2014.09.14 18:29:00 -
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I wish I was in the alternate universe where CCP had been smart enough to invest in EvE instead of spending all that money on shovelware514, world of dickheads, and whatever that other game is. Do you have it? |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
946
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Posted - 2014.09.14 18:54:00 -
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Hicksimus wrote:I wish I was in the alternate universe where CCP had been smart enough to invest in EvE instead of spending all that money on shovelware514, world of dickheads, and whatever that other game is.
Then you have zero clue how business works OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
929
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Posted - 2014.09.14 19:29:00 -
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posting in obligitory eve is dying thread. also Football season started in the states so most people are watching the game right now. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
1834
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:16:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Hicksimus wrote:I wish I was in the alternate universe where CCP had been smart enough to invest in EvE instead of spending all that money on shovelware514, world of dickheads, and whatever that other game is. Then you have zero clue how business works
Oh then please tell us, enlightened one. How does pouring dollars down poorly thought out R&D pathways that are cancelled far before their unrealistic completion dates make for successful business? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5840
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:50:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:DaReaper wrote:Hicksimus wrote:I wish I was in the alternate universe where CCP had been smart enough to invest in EvE instead of spending all that money on shovelware514, world of dickheads, and whatever that other game is. Then you have zero clue how business works Oh then please tell us, enlightened one. How does pouring dollars down poorly thought out R&D pathways that are cancelled far before their unrealistic completion dates make for successful business? Hindsight is 20/20.
Game companies that don't try to diversify tend to be doomed to a slow death.
While attempts to expand one's portfolio don't always work out as planned, failure to at least try are far more disastrous in the long run... and usually even when things don't work out as planned you tend to learn things that can be applied to your main endeavor.
Criticize how their attempts to develop other properties were handled all you like, but to criticize their making the attempt to begin with is foolish at best. If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
Ranger 1 Presents https://www.youtube.com/user/Ranger1Presents |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
12648
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Posted - 2014.09.14 20:53:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:
Oh then please tell us, enlightened one. How does pouring dollars down poorly thought out R&D pathways that are cancelled far before their unrealistic completion dates make for successful business?
Please make us a list of the companies with a 100% hit rate whom you have financially managed.
I haven't seen your credentials, but I don't doubt they are impressive.. lol rolling on floor.. i would probably be laughing though.. not crying --Pepper the Penguin ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
950
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Posted - 2014.09.14 22:58:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Ptraci wrote:DaReaper wrote:Hicksimus wrote:I wish I was in the alternate universe where CCP had been smart enough to invest in EvE instead of spending all that money on shovelware514, world of dickheads, and whatever that other game is. Then you have zero clue how business works Oh then please tell us, enlightened one. How does pouring dollars down poorly thought out R&D pathways that are cancelled far before their unrealistic completion dates make for successful business? Hindsight is 20/20. Game companies that don't try to diversify tend to be doomed to a slow death. While attempts to expand one's portfolio don't always work out as planned, failure to at least try are far more disastrous in the long run... and usually even when things don't work out as planned you tend to learn things that can be applied to your main endeavor. Criticize how their attempts to develop other properties were handled all you like, but to criticize their making the attempt to begin with is foolish at best.
This.
CCP made a single Niche game. It doesn;t have alot of subscribers. It doesn't make a ton of money. If there are any hiccups in subscriptions, that hurts CCP a lot. They also claim to be a gaming company. but have 1 game.
This is the same as going to Henry Ford and telling him not to make anything else but the model A. Its completely stupid.
The old adage 'never put all your eggs in one basket' is the basic rule of business. If you can not diversify you are trapped to the whims of a narrow market. If Blizzard only stuck with Warcraft, you would not of had there other games that were successful. If Lucas only stuck with American Graffiti you would not of had Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc.
you can not, as a business, stick to a single product and expect to be around for long. Its illogical and stupid.
Did ccp make mistakes? ofc. If they learned form them, then ccp and eve are in a stronger place, and if not, then ccp and eve will die anyway sooner then it needs to. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
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Ren Oren
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2014.09.14 23:02:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:posting in obligitory eve is dying thread. also Football season started in the states so most people are watching the game right now.
How about we change from "Eve is dying" to "Devs are leaving left and right"
Maybe that will put things into perspective |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
950
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Posted - 2014.09.14 23:13:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:DaReaper wrote:Hicksimus wrote:I wish I was in the alternate universe where CCP had been smart enough to invest in EvE instead of spending all that money on shovelware514, world of dickheads, and whatever that other game is. Then you have zero clue how business works Oh then please tell us, enlightened one. How does pouring dollars down poorly thought out R&D pathways that are cancelled far before their unrealistic completion dates make for successful business?
CCP became complacent. They thought they could do no harm and we would take whatever they shelled out. They figured give us incarnia, make it micro transaction heavy, there is no competition no one will leave we can do this.. But the jita riots proved them wrong. It also showed them that oh crap moment of 'if eve falls, so goes CCP'
This put WoD development on hold, and any progress they may have made in 3 years was halted and re-evaluated. This would cause them to change things, even in dust. So they start fixing eve, and put WoD on bare bones crew. Then they push to finish dust, because they need another game, for as i just said 'if eve falls, so gos ccp'
So they launch dust, and also show us valk which got a surprise reaction.
So as the year goes on ccp starts looking at things again, and goes 'we have two pc eve games... one for ps3 and one totally different ip... i don;t think this is gonna work'
killing WoD, while i disagree with, was a good idea. Dust clearly was not a huge smash. And i think CCP saw issues with up datinng both the pc and ps3. Plus, lets face it, the ps3 prolly had limitations they got tired of dealing with. So they decided to take charge and move to a single platform. close WoD because it was not close to done and was not part of the new direction (hell if the New Eden IP becomes a huge success, they can always relook at WoD). The point is, they need more products to survive. And they need to take risk to learn. We showed them that they can;t relay on just eve. And we showed them, they need to focus on us for now. Without eve players CCP is dead.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
950
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Posted - 2014.09.14 23:22:00 -
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Ren Oren wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:posting in obligitory eve is dying thread. also Football season started in the states so most people are watching the game right now. How about we change from "Eve is dying" to "Devs are leaving left and right" Maybe that will put things into perspective
Lets look at this logically shall we? The economy is getting better. That means there are more jobs and opportunities. That means anyone who was a little annoyed at there work place starts going 'hmm that looks like i can find a few more companies hiring.. i can move on' it happens everywhere. When the economy is ****, people hang on the job, house, life they have, because tis too big a risk to leave. You put up with a lot of crap because of that. But the moment you see the chance for more money you run.
Dev's leaving does;t really mean anything. It happens all the time. What should worry you is if they can replace the ones that go. And we ofc don;t have the info. I read as 'person a leaves for company b' as a meh moment. Its natural in business, and really is not a sign of much. It COULD be, but typically isn;t.
If you say work for intel, and have a buddy who quit intel and went to google. Then a few months later you wanted out of intel, you would ask your buddy if google has any opening. As you already have a foot in the door and can use yoru bud to get you in. this is how networking and business works. And this is another example of people too dedicated to a product that they stalk every move of the company that makes it, and tries to desperately analyze every word. Heres an idea.. maybe stop doing that and keep playing the game you enjoy. Because at the end of the day, you are just a customer and nothing you can say or do will change the fact that ccp is closing if it is. So why worry? And if you don;t enjoy eve.. then why the **** are you still here? OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2014.09.15 01:29:00 -
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Hey, look at that chart -- I signed up a year ago at the peak of the Test/CFC war. .... No wonder it's felt like it's been all downhill since then.
j/k I love Eve - I just hope that some of it's best days are still ahead & it's worth building up my experience and SP to be ready for those days. |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
590
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Posted - 2014.09.15 01:39:00 -
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numbers always go down at the end of summer. some people that play this game have to go back to school. this happens every year and every year threads start being posted about it. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
1835
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:31:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
Please make us a list of the companies with a 100% hit rate whom you have financially managed.
I haven't seen your credentials, but I don't doubt they are impressive..
Irrelevant when you are comparing a "100% hit rate" with a 0% hit rate. Well ok they did manage to get Dust514 out the door. And in their infinite wisdom they made it Playstation only. The business case behind this being, er, let me get back to you on this...
As for my credentials - you first. This is the internet. There's no way I'd expect you to believe me and there's no way I'd be interested in proving anything. But better than credentials how about letting the evidence speak for itself. EVE is an old product with a poor audience (compared to other online games) and complete stagnation in growth numbers. Their only strength is that they seem to be able to manage to sell multiple subs and PLEX to their existing customer base, but at some point these are going to move on or even get old and die. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5238
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:48:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:...poor audience....
Niche audience =/= poor audience. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
534
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:54:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Lets look at this logically shall we? The economy is getting better.
orly?
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5239
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Posted - 2014.09.15 15:58:00 -
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Ren Oren wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:posting in obligitory eve is dying thread. also Football season started in the states so most people are watching the game right now. How about we change from "Eve is dying" to "Devs are leaving left and right" Maybe that will put things into perspective
So...
Less money spent on salaries, more spent on EVE?
HUZZAH!!! GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
734
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Posted - 2014.09.15 17:53:00 -
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Next expansion will be best thing that hit eve online, you ppl give up so easy.
Who need a dev that is there forever key is in constant flux of talent in and out I say.
Now whos for some re balance pass hm? http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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