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Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 03:42:00 -
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the drake needs her launcher back ishtars need to lose some dps defender missiles need to be useful or gone make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented Remove gates add random system jump arrival un nerf ACs do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps the rohk needs help give the paladin a use cruise missiles still fail in pvp
news from the front o7
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5292
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:01:00 -
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Two cents?
This is closer to about five dollars worth, and none of it justified, you just lit five dollars on fire for no good reason.
Are you happy now? GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5293
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:10:00 -
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Sierra Spurgeon wrote:the drake needs her launcher back ishtars need to lose some dps defender missiles need to be useful or gone make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented Remove gates add random system jump arrival un nerf ACs do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps the rohk needs help give the paladin a use cruise missiles still fail in pvp
news from the front o7
The drake is covered in launcher hardpoints, it never lost them.
The Ishtar just had a nerf and is far from indestructible (see: zkillboard, search ishtar, browse losses)
defenders, bleh, don't use em
Hyperion, Megathron, Armageddon, and many others do wonderful at solo PVP in lowsec, they just need a good fit and pilot
T3s are already in line for a rebalance
Pos's aren't my thing, I just shoot stuff
AC's? lost me there.
Again, the Tempest just needs the right fit and pilot. Same with the Rohk.
Cosmetic features.... not a balancing issue, nothing to see here.
Free to play would kill eve, the NES is the best thing CCP has ever done for a functional EVE microtransaction system. The only thing Aurum gets you is cosmetic stuff, not a balancing issue. See: Incarna riots as to why.
The Paladin is widely used, again, by pilots who know how to fit and use them. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Celly S
Concord Attraction Services The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:12:00 -
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To be fair, he is spot on on the subject of POSes... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625
The link above is 147 pages of folks backing him up.
Just saying. o/ Celly Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or be singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator. |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:18:00 -
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Sierra Spurgeon wrote:the drake needs her launcher back ishtars need to lose some dps defender missiles need to be useful or gone make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented Remove gates add random system jump arrival un nerf ACs do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps the rohk needs help give the paladin a use cruise missiles still fail in pvp
news from the front o7
In order....
- Why?
- Ishtar can't stay at the top of the pack forever. That's the nature of rebalancing.
- Agreed. Defenders need to actually work.
- Explain?
- How so?
- ,..
- Why and how far?
- I like the way things are. Ain't boke, so don't fix it.
- It'll come around when it's ready.
- ...
- How so?
- They go well with Wizards, Rogues, and Fighters.
- Then use something else.
Less whine and more why and how to fix, please.
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Shinta Kobi
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:22:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sierra Spurgeon wrote:the drake needs her launcher back ishtars need to lose some dps defender missiles need to be useful or gone make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented Remove gates add random system jump arrival un nerf ACs do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps the rohk needs help give the paladin a use cruise missiles still fail in pvp
news from the front o7
The drake is covered in launcher hardpoints, it never lost them. The Ishtar just had a nerf and is far from indestructible (see: zkillboard, search ishtar, browse losses) defenders, bleh, don't use em Hyperion, Megathron, Armageddon, and many others do wonderful at solo PVP in lowsec, they just need a good fit and pilot T3s are already in line for a rebalance Pos's aren't my thing, I just shoot stuff AC's? lost me there. Again, the Tempest just needs the right fit and pilot. Same with the Rohk. Cosmetic features.... not a balancing issue, nothing to see here. Free to play would kill eve, the NES is the best thing CCP has ever done for a functional EVE microtransaction system. The only thing Aurum gets you is cosmetic stuff, not a balancing issue. See: Incarna riots as to why. The Paladin is widely used, again, by pilots who know how to fit and use them.
The Drake used to have 7 launcher point, now 6 = lower dps. The VERY slight buff to damage did nothing.
Ishtars, see sentry bonuses(i.e. tracking). If I have to say more, you've never flown or fought one.
Nobody uses Defenders effectively in any way.
AC's = autocannons.
The 'Pest has been left behind while almost every other battleship has been changed other than the Rohk, Mael, and Domi.
Paladins are outmatched by all the other marauders in both tank and dps. Where T2 is more than enough for the rest, faction and deadspace mods are what the Paladin needs to equal the rest.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5293
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:22:00 -
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I get that, that's fine, like I said, POS's aren't my thing.
But all OP posted above was a list of things he doesn't like.
There's no explanation as to why they need to be 'fixed'. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:25:00 -
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the drake needs her launcher back i feel it was nerfed a bit to much it lacks a role that it is not out done by another ship in
ishtars need to lose some dps this one doesn't really need explaining
defender missiles need to be useful or gone really does this need explaining
make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc the rebalance removed alot of options from bses in lowsec save gatecamp and station games they need some revisiting.
nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) with this i mostly mean the proteus. no other ship meats its shear tank and dps for anywhere near the same pricetag
Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented if this needs explaining we aren't in the same game
Remove gates add random system jump arrival this is just an oppinion it feels like no one hunts anymore its gatecamp or station games. lowsec travel would happen alot more if carebears at least thought they could get by without a gate camp and thuss we get more pvp content with this bubbles could be a hell of alot more feasable in lowsec the basic idea would be not chain the arival to the gate only chain the exit
un nerf ACs they are a bit underwhelming in comparison to hybrids not saying make them more dps heavy but just something tracking boost a bit more perhaps
do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix not sure how much more there is to say on it. i dont know how to fix it but its broke
stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. this is what we asked for .... it is not what we got i want to put flames on my proc befor i call in a blob
if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store does anyone use that thing.... i suppose someone must but noone i know
why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps no really why? the entire lineup???
the rohk needs help it lost its spot to the naga for pvp. and its a bit soft for hard core pve
give the paladin a use you cant do anything with the paladin that you cant do with a napoc and the napoc it muuuuuuuuch cheaper. its the worst t2 bs
cruise missiles still fail in pvp they do
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Sophia Kitsune
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:34:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Two cents?
This is closer to about five dollars worth, and none of it justified, you just lit five dollars on fire for no good reason.
Are you happy now? Yes vary happy its fun to burn things |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5293
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:35:00 -
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Sierra Spurgeon wrote: ishtars need to lose some dps this one doesn't really need explaining
Yes, yes it does. It all does. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:36:00 -
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it is fun to burn things
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Shinta Kobi
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:37:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sierra Spurgeon wrote: ishtars need to lose some dps this one doesn't really need explaining
Yes, yes it does. It all does. Right now it's just, "Ishtar too stronk!" It's like a rock saying, paper is too strong, nerf it. Scissors are fine the way they are.
Quote:Ishtars, see sentry bonuses(i.e. tracking). If I have to say more, you've never flown or fought one.
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Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 04:38:00 -
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name a ship that for anywhere near the same price tag holds a candle to the ishtar name it and i will tell you how it wont kill the ishtar
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Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 05:08:00 -
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for the record i dont want eve to be the pay to win game most free to plays are. but the hey you only train one toon at a time unless you pay for alts thing discourages new players.
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Tabyll Altol
Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:14:00 -
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Yeah it-¦t trolltime again.
I make it short no to all.
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Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.17 06:15:00 -
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ishtars need to lose some dps this one doesn't really need explaining
They need to lose ability to use sentries.
defender missiles need to be useful or gone really does this need explaining
Agreed.
make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc the rebalance removed alot of options from bses in lowsec save gatecamp and station games they need some revisiting.
I don't think any T1 BC can beat a well piloted Hyperion 1 on 1, let alone pirate BS.
nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) with this i mostly mean the proteus. no other ship meats its shear tank and dps for anywhere near the same pricetag
The Proteus can only do that much damage from in your face, keep in mind. This is why the Railgu is used more often for medium-large engagements, and Hamgu is still quite popular for small/solo. I'd prefer to see a buff to Loki/Legion rather than a nerf to Prot.
Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented if this needs explaining we aren't in the same game
Yes, CCP has stated they are well aware of this.
Remove gates add random system jump arrival this is just an oppinion it feels like no one hunts anymore its gatecamp or station games. lowsec travel would happen alot more if carebears at least thought they could get by without a gate camp and thuss we get more pvp content with this bubbles could be a hell of alot more feasable in lowsec the basic idea would be not chain the arival to the gate only chain the exit
Gate camps are over embellished. There was a thread by some dude who claimed to jump 300 systems on autopilot and still survived. I was using locator agents to see if he was FOS, and he wasn't. I move freighters through lowsec routinely and rarely encounter camps (of course when I do, it's with my scout).
stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. this is what we asked for .... it is not what we got i want to put flames on my proc befor i call in a blob
They are. This was to test the waters so to speak. I happen to enjoy the skins, Aliastra Thorax looks badass for instance.
why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps no really why? the entire lineup???
I'd like to see the Cynabal faster, but that's it. They are both kiters and should be beating T1 ships at those roles. I do think the Cynbal is faster base? Just not with prop mod? Don't quote me on that.
give the paladin a use you cant do anything with the paladin that you cant do with a napoc and the napoc it muuuuuuuuch cheaper. its the worst t2 bs
Alliance Tourney says otherwise.
cruise missiles still fail in pvp they do
Cruise missiles on a painted frigate can still apply appreciable damage. Other weapons cannot. So it's a fine line between underpowered and overpowered. We don't want blap-everything Cruises again. |
Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 07:41:00 -
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in reference to the bs i was refering to t1 bses and the fact that you quoted none of the buffer bses kinda proves my point |
Sigras
Conglomo
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Posted - 2014.09.17 09:31:00 -
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Sierra Spurgeon wrote:1. the drake needs her launcher back 2. ishtars need to lose some dps 3. defender missiles need to be useful or gone 4. make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc 5. nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) 6. Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented 7. Remove gates add random system jump arrival 8. un nerf ACs 9. do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix 10. stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. 11. if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store 12. why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps 13. the rohk needs help 14. give the paladin a use 15. cruise missiles still fail in pvp Added Numbers for clarity
1. You realize that the drake does more damage now than it did before right? 6 * 1.5 > 7 * 1.25 2. If you want the ishtar to lose DPS, try shooting at/bombing its drones... 3. There's no reason to remove defender missiles... sure they're useless, but they aren't hurting anyone but the stupid who may choose to fit them. 4. Battleships are less mobile and better at defense, A battle cruiser defending a spot (such as a FW Plex) wouldnt be nearly as effective as a battleship defending that same spot. 5. They need to really adopt the "jack of all trades, master of none" role by changing subsystems on the fly; then they can get nerfed 6. Sure, be my guest, have you ever tried reviewing python code that you didnt write? 7. WTF? say hello to the most moronic idea. Let me say this slowly so you can understand .. The only reason that space is even partially habitable is because you can control the entrances and exits to systems. 8. You mean other than selectable damage types, capless guns, and fast tracking ammo? 9. The tempest does 900 DPS with just guns and 3 damage mods. The abaddon does 1022, uses cap and cant select damage types 10. such as? 11. Wow, and I thought 7 was a terrible idea... 12. hmmm... wow that is weird 13. are you just gonna complain or actually post ideas on the ideas forum? 14. The paladin does more damage than the kronos at all ranges > 18 km. Also more complaining without suggestions 15. whine whine whine and not a suggestion is sight... |
Sierra Spurgeon
191st Task Group
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Posted - 2014.09.17 09:36:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Sierra Spurgeon wrote:1. the drake needs her launcher back 2. ishtars need to lose some dps 3. defender missiles need to be useful or gone 4. make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc 5. nerf t3s (ima looking at you proteus ) 6. Pos code needs to be scrapped and reinvented 7. Remove gates add random system jump arrival 8. un nerf ACs 9. do something anything about the tempest. its a high dps ship that is nearly out dpsed by the brutix 10. stop adding new skins start adding new customization options. 11. if you are goin to try micro transaction go free to play. or get rid of the aurum store 12. why is the omen navy faster than the minni linup also with more tank and dps 13. the rohk needs help 14. give the paladin a use 15. cruise missiles still fail in pvp Added Numbers for clarity 1. You realize that the drake does more damage now than it did before right? 6 * 1.5 > 7 * 1.25 2. If you want the ishtar to lose DPS, try shooting at/bombing its drones... 3. There's no reason to remove defender missiles... sure they're useless, but they aren't hurting anyone but the stupid who may choose to fit them. 4. Battleships are less mobile and better at defense, A battle cruiser defending a spot (such as a FW Plex) wouldnt be nearly as effective as a battleship defending that same spot. 5. They need to really adopt the "jack of all trades, master of none" role by changing subsystems on the fly; then they can get nerfed 6. Sure, be my guest, have you ever tried reviewing python code that you didnt write? 7. WTF? say hello to the most moronic idea. Let me say this slowly so you can understand .. The only reason that space is even partially habitable is because you can control the entrances and exits to systems. 8. You mean other than selectable damage types, capless guns, and fast tracking ammo? 9. The tempest does 900 DPS with just guns and 3 damage mods. The abaddon does 1022, uses cap and cant select damage types 10. such as? 11. Wow, and I thought 7 was a terrible idea... 12. hmmm... wow that is weird 13. are you just gonna complain or actually post ideas on the ideas forum? 14. The paladin does more damage than the kronos at all ranges > 18 km. Also more complaining without suggestions 15. whine whine whine and not a suggestion is sight...
read a bit down i clarified on some of those points. its my first time on the forum. and honestly space is stagnating for those who dont want to be in block alliances |
Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
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Posted - 2014.09.17 11:59:00 -
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Making a topic list and then watch everyone dance, how inventive. Making dozends of claims each worth their own discussion in one thread and then expect anything good coming out of this. - No my friend.
Either join exisating discussions or create single threads with some data and argumetns to back it up. Join the BIG Lottery (see Bio ingame), oldest and only non-profit Lottery in EVE, every second Monday. Wire ISK to BIG GAMES for tickets ! Join the Channel, have fun, being a lucky winner is optional ,)
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Claud Tiberius
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Posted - 2014.09.17 12:07:00 -
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Welcome to F&ID
It is a terrible place. Full of angry, picky people, who don't like reading the same thing twice (even though they are not forced to :D). You will do well to take your time and double check your posts.
Quote:make at least one battle ship that has a chance in a lowsec fight against a bc I'm not sure what has lead you to believe this. My Raven can almost destroy a BC in one volley.... Even if the BC is moving, its still going to lose, and badly. The BS chances are very good. Did you mean something else? Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.17 17:02:00 -
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Rear command says Thread closed due to ranting. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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