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Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
164
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:01:00 -
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I don't know about everyone else, but I know that I'm not alone in this.
I'm tired of having my ships destroyed in high sec while I'm carrying expensive goods. I'm tired of not being able to retaliate against people like the agents of New Order because I lack the isk, guns, and skills to do so.
They call us care bears, but they don't understand that we are the ones who make it possible for them to build their ships. They don't understand that we are the ones who harvest the minerals, ship them, and sell them. And yet, they abuse us. The suicide gankers make it more work than it's worth to mine, ship, and sell.
We might not be the ace pilots that a lot of the Eve community is, but we run the markets and the asteroid belts. If we wanted to fight in pvp combat, we would go to low or null sec space.
Personally, I joined Eve because it looked like a fun space sim, and it's a good game, for the most part, but I recently quit because I don't want to deal with the suicide gankers anymore. I'm taking a stand against allowing this kind of behavior, and if I have to stand alone at first, then I will. It saddens me to see such a great game stained by the company that made it.
I know, a lot of you are going to call me a carebear crybaby, and what not, but I don't really care. I know there are others out there who feel the way I do, and CCP might listen if we all raise our voices together.
I know there have been attempts like this in the past, but we have lacked unity and persistence. I will persist when others tire. I will unite us when we are divided. I will bring the carebears together, and together we will crush the suicide gankers and wannabe Concord agents into the dirt.
CCP will listen to us. They will change. They will submit to the will of the community. |
Marsha Mallow
1520
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:03:00 -
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Remove highsec, problem solved
IB4Ballgag DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
571
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:03:00 -
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In before lock this time... as opposed to after lock last time. |
Josef Djugashvilis
2521
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:03:00 -
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Cute.
Oh, and don't be silly. This is not a signature. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6486
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:04:00 -
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This thread will be going places.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
571
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:04:00 -
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PS: stahp making the ISD's work so hard. It's bad, m'kay? |
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
2064
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:04:00 -
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Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Kaivar Lancer
Unlimited Speciality Networks
516
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:05:00 -
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If high sec was removed, I'd be happy. :) |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5322
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:05:00 -
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IB4 banhammer GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
489
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:06:00 -
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LOL.
As i look into my crystal ball...............I see a wardec.... no, make that a few wardecs, coming your way. -áMiko Sunji:-á "There is no better way to find out if you can swim, than swimming for your life."
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5322
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:07:00 -
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Benton Risalo wrote:
EDIT: I just saw that LackofFaith suggested that I should post this in another forum.
You dun goofed brah. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1611
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:08:00 -
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Thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion, the forum I mentioned.
Do not re-post it again in General Discussion. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums. |
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Torneach Structor
Emrys Enterprises
131
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:08:00 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:In before lock this time... as opposed to after lock last time. That was a pretty funny post, wondering whether a thread would be locked right after the post that said the thread was locked.
Anyway, yeah, our dear friend Benton is well on his way to a forum ban at this rate. Re-opening closed threads... For shame.
EDIT: Ganked by ISDs again... |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
743
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:09:00 -
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I tried to PvP in high sec but people shot me |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
24594
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:09:00 -
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Benton Risalo wrote:I'm tired of having my ships destroyed in high sec while I'm carrying expensive goods. I'm tired of not being able to retaliate against people like the agents of New Order because I lack the isk, guns, and skills to do so. So get the ISK guns and skills to do so. What is the problem you're trying to solve here?
Quote:If we wanted to fight in pvp combat, we would go to low or null sec space. You understand that highsec is a PvP arena same as low and null, right? Why should that change? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5322
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:10:00 -
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Welly welly welly, looks like the ISDs were more forgiving than I expected. Good for you, and welcome to F&I, the GD for bad ideas.
Y'all have fun now. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague The Bastion
322
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:11:00 -
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I tried PvP in hisec but they guys docked up when they hit 80% armor except one of them who got caught on previous gate. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1371
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:13:00 -
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You have no lack of faith... TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
573
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:13:00 -
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Does this mean we can still mock bad ideas for being bad? I mean really really really bad? Still... once again for the learning impaired... http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html
And while we're at it, may I propose my own bad idea? Plex 4 Biomass, a solution to the endless bitching about disposable alts... |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2663
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:13:00 -
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Oh, this should be amusing.
I was going to make popcorn, but I think this deserves a pizza. |
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
45
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:14:00 -
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Benton Risalo wrote:
They call us care bears, but they don't understand that we are the ones who make it possible for them to build their ships. They don't understand that we are the ones who harvest the minerals, ship them, and sell them. And yet, they abuse us. The suicide gankers make it more work than it's worth to mine, ship, and sell.
dude, most PvPers (wannabe) like me have indy alts that produce the isk we require for ship pewpew.
btw, EvE is a PvP game. Just Add Water |
Duchess Starbuckington
Starbuckington Manor
299
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:16:00 -
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I have a better idea for you:
Try using your brain. Do some research, ask some PvP pilots and especially highsec gankers, and learn a thing or two about the huge number of counters and safety measures you have against getting blown up in highsec rather than expecting CCP to do all the work for you.
Seriously, it's not that hard if you're prepared to actually try rather than AFK hauling through 0.5 systems like an idiot.
I'm not even going to go into the economic impact your "idea" would have, because if you're not smart or experienced enough to understand scouts, route planning, tank fitting etc. etc. than god knows you won't understand a word of the wider impact on the game.
IB4TL. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
573
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:21:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:I have a better idea for you:
Try using your brain. Do some research, ask some PvP pilots and especially highsec gankers, and learn a thing or two about the huge number of counters and safety measures you have against getting blown up in highsec rather than expecting CCP to do all the work for you.
Seriously, it's not that hard if you're prepared to actually try rather than AFK hauling through 0.5 systems like an idiot. This ^ Seriously. Most PvP'ers are actually pretty decent folk who will be more than happy to chat with you about fits and tactics if you manage to take a moment to pull the stick out of your arse and address them in a civil manner. No joke. When I manage to splode someone and they ask me 'wow, how did you do that?!?' I will happily explain to them not only how it happened, but also how they can prevent it from happening in the future.
It's a game, and we're all playing to have fun in our own ways. Sometimes that fun may come at your expense; if you take it with some grace and are genuinely interested in how to get better at what you do, you may actually earn a bit of respect from those around you. In the long run this coupled with what you learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others can make your life much much easier. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
4971
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:31:00 -
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Noting my disapproval as I said all I needed to in the previous thread =]I[= |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5322
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:34:00 -
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I've got a jar of dirt, OP's argument is invalid. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
201
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:44:00 -
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Benton,
I'm not one of the PvPers, I'm primarily an industrialist these days and I still disagree with you. I am also yet to lose an industrial ship in empire.
Looking at your killboard, you lost a billion isk worth of i tems because you were transporting them in a paper bag. If you had used a ship designed for the job (Transport Ship, Freighter), the likelyhood of you getting randomly ganked would be significantly lower, if not impossible (stealth transport).
The loss you took in that case is literally your own fault, but I understand that you feel that it is not your fault, and rather a fault of the mechanics (which have been this way since the game came out) which should be changed to accommodate your play style.
It's important you understand that all the people disagreeing with you here are not the suicide gankers wanting your stuff, I'm a freighter/tranport user, and I disagree with you too. |
Bluespot85
Cherry Popper Mining Company
9
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:47:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Noting my disapproval as I said all I needed to in the previous thread
Same here.
I wish they'd remove pvp in battlefield 4, it's just not fair. The game would be so much better if they removed all the guns, i mean, who needs all the violence.
Some tables and chairs would be nice instead, we could all sit down and have a chat about the issues, enjoy the graphics and chillout. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
1584
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:58:00 -
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Benton Risalo wrote:I'm taking a stand against allowing this kind of behavior, and if I have to stand alone at first, then I will.
No, you're whining on the forum. Taking a stand involves you using the in-game tools you already have to do something about it. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Kaerakh
Surprisingly Deep Hole Try Rerolling
427
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Posted - 2014.09.17 16:01:00 -
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Normally I link a generic response that I made about these threads. I forgot where the link was, and honestly this thread is just more of the same drivel. It's fairly safe to say that my posts have little to no impact on bears and their misinformed view of the game. Schrodinger's Hot Dropper - The Fate of Forum Alts - Click me! Click me! |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20765
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Posted - 2014.09.17 16:02:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Benton Risalo wrote:I'm taking a stand against allowing this kind of behavior, and if I have to stand alone at first, then I will. No, you're whining on the forum. Taking a stand involves you using the in-game tools you already have to do something about it. :effort:
OP you should try another game, any other game because your justification for the removal of PvP in highsec sucks, and goes against the very nature of Eve. The difference between a carebear and a bear is that one expects the world to revolve around them, the other accepts the world for what it is and works around it.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
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