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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:03:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:
So, at this hour I am once again playing with my chemistry set
You have a chemistry set?? Um.. block party at Ssabat's then? Going to wait till Mr. S is drunk and asleep to have chem set all to myself.
"Better living thru chemistry" - It's not just a vice, it's an adventure
A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14019
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:05:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Abrazzar wrote:, those threats could have all been from themselves to paint the ones they try to criticise as the deplorable individuals they want them to be seen as. Yes, it's called a"False Flag," a tactic which has been used all throughout recorded history by governments.
Yes, the yellow journalist may have constructed this as a way to attract more attention (her appetite for marketing is known).
But then you find stuff like this which publishes her phone number (for example) and Occam's Razor seems to dictate that the death threat was from the type of source we all think it is from.
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
638
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:15:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Abrazzar wrote:, those threats could have all been from themselves to paint the ones they try to criticise as the deplorable individuals they want them to be seen as. Yes, it's called a"False Flag," a tactic which has been used all throughout recorded history by governments. Yes, the yellow journalist may have constructed this as a way to attract more attention (her appetite for marketing is known). But then you find stuff like this which publishes her phone number (for example) and Occam's Razor seems to dictate that the death threat was from the type of source we all think it is from.
Yeaaahhhh.....
idk, because to tell you the truth, I support "doxing" government employees and local police officers. A man I greatly admire was arrested for publishing the names and phone numbers of every employee at the IRS office in his town. I believe ultimately there was nothing to REALLY charge him with. So, I dont wanna get off on apolitical rant.
BUT - Doxing a private citizen? Perhaps therein I can make the distinction, or draw a line. I think I will, there's my opinion on the matter. But that said, shouldnt there be consequences for her bullshit too? idk
too.. much ...talk... lol
\m/ O.o \m/
A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.
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colay Starwolf
HelpMyMissioners
40
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:18:00 -
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i might have been playing eve to long but that fez scam seems like it was done by noobs EvE is a big mmorpg ( Many Men Online Role Playing Girls) game |
Lady Areola Fappington
2237
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:19:00 -
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Over in the Real world, with Real People, #gamergate is just a thing to point at and go "Look at those silly virgin gamers being jelly over someone getting some".
I've yet to meet a not-gamer person who understands what #gamergate is about. It's all "Jelly virgins are jelly".
Amusing, that. It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave |
Catherine Frasier
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.09.18 04:40:00 -
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colay Starwolf wrote:you dont get it the SJW are a hate group. SJW talk about fairness and equality but only want it done in a way that s right by what the SJW think. So eve cant have 4 empires has to have a woman only empire filled with clones. a cat person empire a gay empire. You realize that that hasn't actually happened, right? That's just some absurd, paranoid fantasy in which some random woman nobody had even heard of a couple of weeks ago secretly wields the awesome power to force the fifteen billion dollar gaming industry to do... something. It's one teeny step from there to faked moon landings and HAARP conspiracies.
Now the death threats, threats of sexual assault, threats to bomb public gatherings made by those you apparently support, those are all too real. Real enough and blatant enough that the FBI approached the IGDA and said "Hey, do you need our help?" There is an incredible imbalance in power here and you appear to be cheering and salivating that poor helpless Godzilla needs to do whatever is necessary to defend itself from the evil, jackbooted thug, Bambi.
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Arronicus
Caldari Navy Reconnaissance
1135
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Posted - 2014.09.18 05:30:00 -
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So, the gaming review/report sites are biased, paid off, and full of crap? Shouldn't come as a big surprise to anyone. If you have watched reviews on sites like meta-critic for the last few years, it's been incredibly easy to see the HUGE disconnect between people who actually play the game, and those who are paid to write about it.
The easy solution is to just stop using sites that promote all of this crap. The less clicks they get, the less revenue they get, the sooner they dry up and realize that gaming shitlord misogynists destroyed their careers, or however they choose to describe not being listened to. |
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
76
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Posted - 2014.09.18 07:22:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Abrazzar wrote:, those threats could have all been from themselves to paint the ones they try to criticise as the deplorable individuals they want them to be seen as. Yes, it's called a"False Flag," a tactic which has been used all throughout recorded history by governments. Yes, the yellow journalist may have constructed this as a way to attract more attention (her appetite for marketing is known). But then you find stuff like this which publishes her phone number (for example) and Occam's Razor seems to dictate that the death threat was from the type of source we all think it is from.
I hope the term 'yellow' journalist isn't a racist term.... |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14066
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:24:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:
I hope the term 'yellow' journalist isn't a racist term....
There are no racist connotations to the term:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
7539
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:39:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Over in the Real world, with Real People, #gamergate is just a thing to point at and go "Look at those silly virgin gamers being jelly over someone getting some".
I've yet to meet a not-gamer person who understands what #gamergate is about. It's all "Jelly virgins are jelly".
Amusing, that. Are all the non-gamers you meet really that immature? And they actually use "Jelly" in conversation?
Now that's amusing.
As an aside, I'm a gamer and I have no idea what this gamergate is about besides some idiots threatening someone. |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4689
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:07:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:As an aside, I'm a gamer and I have no idea what this gamergate is about besides some idiots threatening someone. Not surprising, considering you would be hard pressed to find any other information about GamerGate on any of the related media outlets because they all work together in this. Suspected since the concerted release of the Gamers are Dead articles and verified with the finding of a google groups mailing list. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
60
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:16:00 -
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Some people take gaming too seriously. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
26223
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:22:00 -
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Talas Dir wrote:Some people take gaming too seriously. It's more like: People are really getting sick of social marxists and hipsters with communications degrees b*tting into every walk of society unquestioned and unopposed, shoving their "message" of equality and acceptance - or rather, their version of it - into everybodies faces... I know I am. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
648
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Posted - 2014.09.18 11:42:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Talas Dir wrote:Some people take gaming too seriously. It's more like: People are really getting sick of social marxists and hipsters with communications degrees b*tting into every walk of society unquestioned and unopposed, shoving their "message" of equality and acceptance - or rather, their version of it - into everybodies faces... I know I am. I'm a "member" of more then one of their imagined "oppressed groups", and I don't need those social justice demagogs to fight my battles, while misrepresenting everyone around them, their side and the opposing one, just to make a quick buck of of an industry they have no business in nore care for.
THIS^
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A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14107
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Posted - 2014.09.18 13:28:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:It's more like: People are really getting sick of social marxists and hipsters with communications degrees b*tting into every walk of society unquestioned and unopposed, shoving their "message" of equality and acceptance - or rather, their version of it - into everybodies faces... I know I am.
I'm a "member" of more then one of their imagined "oppressed groups", and I don't need those social justice demagogs to fight my battles, while misrepresenting everyone around them, their side and the opposing one, just to make a quick buck of of an industry they have no business in nore care for.
Would you send death threats to these "social justice demagogues" because you disagree with them?
Did you have an opinion about people who doxx and threaten people they disagree with?
You just called some people "social Marxists" and "hipsters". Do you think it would be OK for someone to have a disproportionate reaction to that?
Or is terrible gaming journalism your highest concern in this issue?
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1151
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Posted - 2014.09.18 13:31:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Over in the Real world, with Real People, #gamergate is just a thing to point at and go "Look at those silly virgin gamers being jelly over someone getting some".
I've yet to meet a not-gamer person who understands what #gamergate is about. It's all "Jelly virgins are jelly".
Amusing, that. Are all the non-gamers you meet really that immature? And they actually use "Jelly" in conversation? Now that's amusing. As an aside, I'm a gamer and I have no idea what this gamergate is about besides some idiots threatening someone.
Actually, outside of a peanut-butter (or napalm) context I've never heard the term used at all. Must be a British thing.
As far as #gamergate goes, its more along the lines of 'insufferable feminist 'gaming journalist' (Pfffft, I know, right?) uses her position to regularly inflict her feminazi viewpoint on guys who just want to read game reviews. When it comes out that she fucks her way to the top, guys sick of her crap start trolling hard, and she screams 'internetRape'. Other whipped 'gaming journalists' (I really have a hard time keeping a straight face using that term....) think white knighting her will get them laid and write angry little screeds about the tyranny of male-dominated gaming culture -when instead they should simply be pulling their microscopic, shrunken testes out of their asses.
Or at least I think thats the gist of it.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14107
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Posted - 2014.09.18 13:35:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:As an aside, I'm a gamer and I have no idea what this gamergate is about besides some idiots threatening someone. Not surprising, considering you would be hard pressed to find any other information about GamerGate on any of the related media outlets because they all work together in this. Suspected since the concerted release of the Gamers are Dead articles and verified with the finding of a google groups mailing list.
Maybe people shouldn't threaten and displace other human beings from their homes in order to communicate a social message. Something that is illegal is more newsworthy than your feeling of being offended at a poorly crafted media piece.
You lose legitimacy when members of the community break form and start doing inhumane things because the concept of freedom of expression is too difficult for them to understand.
Those terrible articles people are so bent out of shape about: people have every right to write them and market them. What you don't have a right to do is take your objection to something and turn it into physical violence.
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14107
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Posted - 2014.09.18 13:45:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:As far as #gamergate goes, its more along the lines of 'insufferable feminist 'gaming journalist' (Pfffft, I know, right?) uses her position to regularly inflict her feminazi viewpoint on guys who just want to read game reviews. When it comes out that she fucks her way to the top, guys sick of her crap start trolling hard, and she screams 'internetRape'. Other whipped 'gaming journalists' (I really have a hard time keeping a straight face using that term....) think white knighting her will get them laid and write angry little screeds about the tyranny of male-dominated gaming culture -when instead they should simply be pulling their microscopic, shrunken testes out of their asses. Or at least I think thats the gist of it.
Explain to me how "inflicting viewpoints" and sleeping her way to the top justifies death threats?
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6075179/anita-sarkeesian-says-she-was-driven-out-of-house-by-threats
I fail to understand your view, given your prior history of expressing disapproval of the same thing happening in EVE when CODE. folks gank ships.
And she faked the death threats then called the FBI herself? That makes a lot of sense. Really.
Edit: And "sleeping her way to the top". Way to go mentioning or vilifying any men who were equally responsible for the sleeping bit. I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14109
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:05:00 -
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Relevant:
Herr Wilkus wrote:People get their fricken ships popped all the time, and some low-functioning people get mad/cut themselves/kick the dog/beat their wife. Doesn't mean you ban the guy that popped him for 'crossing lines'. We aren't responsible for doing a damn psychoanalysis of everyone we encounter online. And seriously, 'empathy'? Its not a scammers business to give a crap about your personal problems - they just want you to hand over your ISK and your dignity as a bonus.
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Let me illustrate: (and forgive me, Monk, if I'm misremembering this episode....) Psychotic Monk at one point a couple years ago was actually doxed and telephoned at his home by an angry AWOX victim. THAT is real life harassment. I'm not even sure if that particular AH got banned. After all, that was a couple years ago and CCP's joke rules are fluid things these days.
Apparently concerned for Psychotic Monk, but when it comes to a woman with an opposing point of view, then it's all about shifting the blame to her.
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
26225
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:23:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Would you send death threats to these "social justice demagogues" because you disagree with them?
Did you have an opinion about people who doxx and threaten people they disagree with? If those threats and the doxing are real, it shouldn't really surpise certain people in this "SJW" circles, it's the same form of "harassment" every other public figure on the internet has to face at some point. That doesn't make it ok, mind you, but what's really troublesome, in my opinion, is the reaction the general public (and the games media) have to it:
They jump to their defense, by default, even if there is no evidence for the threats other then their word and a few lines on twitter, they censor message boards, they call gamers worse then ISIS, they condone doxing and harassment of the people that criticise the very same people that claimed harassment and doxing, etc.
Sibyyl wrote:You just called some people "social Marxists" and "hipsters". Do you think it would be OK for someone to have a disproportionate reaction to that? No, not if they feel those labels don't fit them, at least... yet, they know they do, and they hate to be seen for what they are. On the other hand, if I was to publish articles claiming that games should no longer be about fun, but about social politics and moral education, then I should expect opposition... if I wasn't totally blinded by my own "convictions", that is.
Sibyyl wrote:Or is terrible gaming journalism your highest concern in this issue? It is, since the gaming media... those people that make a living of of gamers reading their articles and reports... have sided with with people that only use the system for personal gains while calling all gamers mysogonisic, white cis het, neckbearded basement dwellers. Those folks are not about equality or fighting against "oppression", they just use their victim narrative to bully others and silence criticsm, and that's dispicable.
I was raised with a social conscious and a strong sense of justice... I never had to cry victim to reach my goals and I never had to find excuses for my own shortcomings, and seeing how certain people play the system like that sickens me...
...also: Death threats over twitter are nothing compared to what real political figures had to endute over the history, and if they would "own their sh*t", those selfstyled victims would call the authorities (something Anita Sarkeesian apearently didn't do, although she claimed she did) and not tweet about it! "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
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colay Starwolf
HelpMyMissioners
41
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:38:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:As far as #gamergate goes, its more along the lines of 'insufferable feminist 'gaming journalist' (Pfffft, I know, right?) uses her position to regularly inflict her feminazi viewpoint on guys who just want to read game reviews. When it comes out that she fucks her way to the top, guys sick of her crap start trolling hard, and she screams 'internetRape'. Other whipped 'gaming journalists' (I really have a hard time keeping a straight face using that term....) think white knighting her will get them laid and write angry little screeds about the tyranny of male-dominated gaming culture -when instead they should simply be pulling their microscopic, shrunken testes out of their asses. Or at least I think thats the gist of it. Explain to me how "inflicting viewpoints" and sleeping her way to the top justifies death threats? http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6075179/anita-sarkeesian-says-she-was-driven-out-of-house-by-threatsI fail to understand your view, given your prior history of expressing disapproval of the same thing happening in EVE when CODE. folks gank ships. And she faked the death threats then called the FBI herself? That makes a lot of sense. Really. Edit: And "sleeping her way to the top". Way to go mentioning or vilifying any men who were equally responsible for the sleeping bit.
No one said thats not bad it is but you cant use that as a shield to make everything you do ok and that where #notyoushield came from people sick of being shields EvE is a big mmorpg ( Many Men Online Role Playing Girls) game |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14181
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:38:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote: If those threats and the doxing are real, it shouldn't really surpise certain people in this "SJW" circles, it's the same form of "harassment" every other public figure on the internet has to face at some point. That doesn't make it ok, mind you, but what's really troublesome, in my opinion, is the reaction the general public (and the games media) have to it:
They jump to their defense, by default, even if there is no evidence for the threats other then their word and a few lines on twitter, they censor message boards, they call gamers worse then ISIS, they condone doxing and harassment of the people that criticise the very same people that claimed harassment and doxing, etc.
You're right the feeling of persecution is completely imagined.
Take a look at comments to any of Mintchip's videos sometime. I'd never argue that Mintchip is anything but ignorant about all things EVE but I think you will agree that the comments are pretty screwed up. Why do gamers feel the need to make it so personal? Do you think this kind of thing is appropriate?
The point that someone has to leave their home because of death threats, with the FBI being involved in investigating.. maybe the assertion that the gaming community doesn't understand how to appropriately express their feelings is pretty accurate.
Don't be surprised about your guilt by association. You still seem to be defending these people.
Quote:Sibyyl wrote:You just called some people "social Marxists" and "hipsters". Do you think it would be OK for someone to have a disproportionate reaction to that? No, not if they feel those labels don't fit them, at least... yet, they know they do, and they hate to be seen for what they are. On the other hand, if I was to publish articles claiming that games should no longer be about fun, but about social politics and moral education, then I should expect opposition... if I wasn't totally blinded by my own "convictions", that is.
So it is OK for someone to publish your phone number and issue death threats because you called them names. Got it.
You don't seem to understand that we can publish whatever we want to on the Internet (all the articles you are offended by are protected by free speech), but doxxing and death threats are not free speech and are in no way protected.
Do you honestly not see a difference between the two? Or are you just arguing for the sake of argument?
Quote:I never had to cry victim to reach my goals and I never had to find excuses for my own shortcomings, and seeing how certain people play the system like that sickens me...
It's good nothing terrible happened to you, but you seem convinced that terrible things don't happen to women every minute of every day. Or maybe they should just shut up and not complain? Is that your recommendation?
Quote:...also: Death threats over twitter are nothing compared to what real political figures had to endute over the history, and if they would "own their sh*t", those selfstyled victims would call the authorities (something Anita Sarkeesian apearently didn't do, although she claimed she did) and not tweet about it!
So that makes death threats OK? Because politicians have gotten shot and blown up, it is OK to issue death threats via Twitter?
Amazing.
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
1152
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:38:00 -
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No, but there is a major difference.
Monk was a private citizen, playing a game anonymously, and blew up some space pixels and then got called at his place of work and/or home. Doxing was being used to point out inconsistency in EULA enforcement, as it clearly puts the 'Real life' in real life harrassment.
Quinn writes a column that is read by thousands, and used that column to attack/guilt-trip a large number of people. Not saying that sending threats is the way to respond to that (well deserved derision works much better), but when your column is being read by tens of thousands, you have to assume that a few of them are going to react in an inappropriate way.
Then, when fuel is thrown on the fire - a 'gamer journalist' turns out to be a feminist simply doing a social experiment on gamers, tack on hypocrisy when it turns out she uses workplace sex to advance her interests.....yes its going to lead to a lot of trolling.
When you turn yourself into a public figure, expectations of privacy change.
When it comes down to it, Monk is just a private citizen playing a game on the internet.
Not so with public figures such as journalists - especially those who are clearly seeking out conflict.
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colay Starwolf
HelpMyMissioners
41
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:39:00 -
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Apparently concerned for Psychotic Monk, but when it comes to a woman with an opposing point of view, then it's all about shifting the blame to her.
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If she wants to put out her point of view more power to her but how come it has to be the only point of view how come i have to be a evil white man if i dont go yes your right. EvE is a big mmorpg ( Many Men Online Role Playing Girls) game |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14181
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:42:00 -
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colay Starwolf wrote:
No one said thats not bad it is but you cant use that as a shield to make everything you do ok and that where #notyoushield came from people sick of being shields
I've yet to see you express any outrage for it. Feel free to edit your OP and call out both sides of this issue as being on the wrong side of ethics.
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
656
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:48:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:colay Starwolf wrote:
No one said thats not bad it is but you cant use that as a shield to make everything you do ok and that where #notyoushield came from people sick of being shields
I've yet to see you express any outrage for it. Feel free to edit your OP and call out both sides of this issue as being on the wrong side of ethics.
I'm cool with calling both sides in the wrong and dropping the conversation, tbh.
Two parties on opposite sides of an issue pull some shizznet. "The public" divides itself cheering for one side or the other. More enlightened folks see the BS on both sides.
*waves hand* "this is not the debate you're looking for"
\m/ O.o \m/
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colay Starwolf
HelpMyMissioners
41
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:48:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:colay Starwolf wrote:
No one said thats not bad it is but you cant use that as a shield to make everything you do ok and that where #notyoushield came from people sick of being shields
I've yet to see you express any outrage for it. Feel free to edit your OP and call out both sides of this issue as being on the wrong side of ethics.
I am a adult my actions mine to pick the fallout mine to deal with. Saying that all of #GamerGate is wrong or evil because the acts of other who might or might not be part of it is wrong. Sending death mails to people is wrong. I will only answer for what i have done. Your saying its everyone s fault.
EvE is a big mmorpg ( Many Men Online Role Playing Girls) game |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2004
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:48:00 -
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colay Starwolf wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:You #gamergate neckbeards can all feel free to go back to the basement you've refused to move out of since graduating high school, and shut up.
You want jiggly bouncy boobs and fantasy sex scenes, it's called RedTube.... and Vaseline is almost always on sale, somwhere. Oh, and take a shower for once. case in point your one of them neckbeards because all gamers are trash just ask kataku unless your a SJW hatemonger
Okay, first of all: *you're. Second, how is anyone "hatemongering" by telling you to stop being a misogynist scumbag? That's the opposite of hatemongering. Third, accusing me of being "the real neckbeard"? Come now.... don't be so pedantic. Four: Holy run-on sentence, Batman! Five: Social Justice is a good thing. Racism, sexism, homophobia, and ableism don't belong in modern society.
Your whole "movement" and everything it stands for is stupid. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
14201
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:51:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:No, but there is a major difference.
Monk was a private citizen, playing a game anonymously, and blew up some space pixels and then got called at his place of work and/or home. Doxing was being used to point out inconsistency in EULA enforcement, as it clearly puts the 'Real life' in real life harrassment.
Quinn writes a column that is read by thousands, and used that column to attack/guilt-trip a large number of people. Not saying that sending threats is the way to respond to that (well deserved derision works much better), but when your column is being read by tens of thousands, you have to assume that a few of them are going to react in an inappropriate way.
The underlined admission seems to be missing from responses unless the point is forced. I think people should declare that when they talk about #gamergate instead of *excluding* that statement until someone brings it up.
Public figures, regardless of what they say, are legally protected from doxxing and death threats just like private citizens are. People can legally publish whatever they want to as part of freedom of press** and they should not in any way have the expectation to be threatened and removed from their homes.
A public journalist has *as much a right* as Psychotic Monk not to expect a targeted personal reaction.
** Other countries have more restricted freedom of press rules, but none of these restrict comments on gaming or non-political gender commentary.
Quote: When you turn yourself into a public figure, expectations of privacy change.
The expectations of privacy change, but they do not disappear.
I'm sorry Peps ~ And when the seasons change, will you stand by me? ~ |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
26225
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Posted - 2014.09.18 14:52:00 -
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Atleast as amazing as your ability to only read what you want to read... but, you already know everything (even that I'm not a women and nothing bad has ever happened to me) and are not interested in discussion.
...as a final note: Terrible things happen to everyone, every second of the day in this world. It's our choice how to deal with it, but reducing all of humanity to a fearful herd of sheep can't be the way. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
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