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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
768
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Posted - 2014.09.20 21:49:00 -
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Can you please not make every thread on the IGS about yourself? This is an interesting new venture that deserves a little front page time without the Diana Kim show drowning it out. Please. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1257
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Posted - 2014.09.20 21:53:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:Can you please not make every thread on the IGS about yourself? This is an interesting new venture that deserves a little front page time without the Diana Kim show drowning it out. Please. Unfortunately, I have to defend my honor against some irrelevant pilots, who believe they can start personal attacks on me out of nothing and without authority to do so. Including you. |
Indira Harashani
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.09.21 06:30:00 -
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Child, anyone attempting to attack your honor here would need sharpshooting skills of the highest caliber if they wished to do so successfully. And not out of any need to penetrate any 'armor' you might be wearing.
Your achievements and business, and their ISK value are entirely irrelevant to this thread. They have nothing to do with the launch of this new publication, the company behind it, or those who have chosen to invest in the venture. All they are, is something for you to hold up and point at while you shout and rant about anyone who does not play along with your diatribes.
My words are neither empty nor without merit - at least, to everyone except you. They are based on nearly two years of observing these forums as well as other venues; I rarely participate because I feel the return on the invested effort to typically be insufficient. Furthermore, I do not particularly care much what you think regarding the weight or merit of my words: I know they have both, as do a number of others on these boards, and that is sufficient for me. I feel no need to insert myself into threads to rant at everyone else in some pitiful, petulant display. That, it seems, would be your thing.
True enough, I have no rank nor authority in the State. I would not want it; I have enough responsibilities of my own as a Holder in the Kingdom. Which, incidentally, is where this new venture is based. As it happens, that, coupled with your squandered opportunity to invest, makes you the 'jaijii' without rank or authority in the jurisdiction in which Padesar Uls was founded and is based. Lady Indira Harashani Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1257
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Posted - 2014.09.21 10:40:00 -
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Indira Harashani wrote:Child I am not a child to you, and if you can't distinguish State insignia to use as a proper honorific, you should have consulted State officials first, instead of displaying to the whole star cluster that even among as respectable and polite peoples as Amarr there are exclusions.
Indira Harashani wrote:anyone attempting to attack your honor here would need sharpshooting skills of the highest caliber if they wished to do so successfully. And not out of any need to penetrate any 'armor' you might be wearing. Which only means you should first look for definition of the word honor before speaking about it. Makes sense, right?
Indira Harashani wrote: Your achievements and business, and their ISK value are entirely irrelevant to this thread.
Just as your sudden outbursts of dirt. Have the State suddenly popped your favorite toy slave, so you cry so loud? I could send you some tissues. Of course, you will have to pay for them their market price.
Indira Harashani wrote: My words are neither empty nor without merit
Said a person, who emerged in the topic just to insult others.
Indira Harashani wrote: True enough, I have no rank nor authority in the State. I would not want it; I have enough responsibilities of my own as a Holder in the Kingdom.
Then you would do service to yourself by keeping your mouth shut to not defaming yourself further.
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Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
768
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Posted - 2014.09.21 11:54:00 -
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... and on tonight's episode of...
... sod it. These boards are useless. Why try? Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1257
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Posted - 2014.09.21 12:04:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:... and on tonight's episode of...
... sod it. These boards are useless. Why try? If suddenly peoples like this "Indira Harashani" appear just to insult for propositions, it doesn't mean whole forums are useless. |
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
768
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Posted - 2014.09.21 12:10:00 -
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No, Kim. It doesn't. You on the other hand taking every bloody thread on the entire bloody forum to turn into an argument entirely centered around yourself and your blithering is what has made these boards useless. I mean this in every conceivable way. You are a plague on communication. On the IGS. On New Eden. You repel and choke all interaction between others, forcing yourself into every subject you don't belong in. If you'd actually talk about the topic at hand, that would at least be something, but you don't. You turn it into a discussion about yourself and insulting everyone around you, every single time. With no exceptions.
It's okay, you've won. You've repelled all decent and reasonable discourse, quelled all tendencies towards any new or interesting topics. You get to sit victoriously in the ruins of these boards, playing the Diana Kim show endlessly into the aether.
Congratulations on managing something even the titans of the past never achieved. Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1257
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Posted - 2014.09.21 12:42:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:You turn it into a discussion about yourself That is an utter lie
Jinari Otsito wrote: and insulting everyone around you, every single time. With no exceptions. Only those, who came to insult me. Like you. If I ever insulted anyone - look at first what you do, and think, why I did this.
I am not going to insult anyone out of nothing, like you do. But if you ever insulted me, or spread any lies about me - I won't leave it without attention. Be sure in this. And will be coming at you with similar approach, until I notice change in your behavior and will decide it will be enough for you.
And have a nice jam. |
Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising Circle-Of-Two
45
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Posted - 2014.09.21 13:25:00 -
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Number One: Are we all in the state? - No. Why should you hold us in some light that we are? Especially since your not "valued" the same way as you are in it.
Number Two: This particular thread is about a new industry publication starting, why exactly are we talking about your honor or lack there of? - Some preconcieved notion by other people based on past actions that your taking to heart. Ever hear the phrase silence is golden? If their going to say what is in your eyes, ignorant, why give them a response? How is your honor tarnished from words of people who don't hold any in your eyes? |
Daamal Ulaannar
Padesar Uls
19
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:09:00 -
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I can announce that Padesar Uls has set up its headquarters in Khanid space however we are having one or two organisational problems due to an incursion that is ongoing in the Nohshayess constellation. However we are working to ensure that the incursion does not disrupt our current timetable.
I will keep you updated on our progress there. But for the moment I would like to announce that all shares have been sold. I would like to reassure that further investment opportunities will arrive in the future.
I would encourage anyone who would like to talk on the matter of Padesar Uls in any way continue to post in this Galnet thread. Whether that be investment opportunities, requests about possible coverage by our reporters or questions about what we are currently planning to cover. |
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Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
822
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:19:00 -
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Jinari Otsito wrote:[...]taking every bloody thread on the entire bloody forum and turn into an argument entirely centered around yourself and your blithering.
Just wait until someone tells her that this loud, self-centered approach is a behaviour usually attributed to gallenteans. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1388
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:34:00 -
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Desiderya wrote:Jinari Otsito wrote:[...]taking every bloody thread on the entire bloody forum and turn into an argument entirely centered around yourself and your blithering. Just wait until someone tells her that this loud, self-centered approach is a behaviour usually attributed to gallenteans. Beat me to it.
Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
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Indira Harashani
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:38:00 -
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Daamal Ulaannar wrote:I can announce that Padesar Uls has set up its headquarters in Khanid space however we are having one or two organisational problems due to an incursion that is ongoing in the Nohshayess constellation. However we are working to ensure that the incursion does not disrupt our current timetable.
I will keep you updated on our progress there. But for the moment I would like to announce that all shares have been sold. I would like to reassure that further investment opportunities will arrive in the future.
I would encourage anyone who would like to talk on the matter of Padesar Uls in any way continue to post in this Galnet thread. Whether that be investment opportunities, requests about possible coverage by our reporters or questions about what we are currently planning to cover. Nation's lackeys will be sent packing soon enough. Luckily, their antics rarely impede GalNet traffic or trade in high-security space.
I will be watching this thread and its related cousin in the market discussion areas closely for updates. Thank you.
Desiderya wrote:Jinari Otsito wrote:[...]taking every bloody thread on the entire bloody forum and turn into an argument entirely centered around yourself and your blithering. Just wait until someone tells her that this loud, self-centered approach is a behaviour usually attributed to gallenteans. I had considered it, but I felt doing so would be a bit of an Gallentean approach in itself.
I prefer the more subtle Amarrian humor, in any case. It does make such a lovely sound when it sails over someone's head. Lady Indira Harashani Holder of the Kheryskova Archipelago, Kihtaled IV |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1257
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Posted - 2014.09.21 18:45:00 -
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Deitra Vess wrote: This particular thread is about a new industry publication starting, why exactly are we talking about your honor or lack there of?
Because on reply of my suggestion for this industry publication, I have got a personal attack reply from a troll, and had to reply to her groundless and irrelevant insults towards me. Just like I am now replying to your comment, instead of discussing the said industry publication or my proposition to it.
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Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising Circle-Of-Two
46
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Posted - 2014.09.21 19:12:00 -
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the point I was trying to say is if people are going to attack you, your silence would say more than any words you could say. Instead of stopping to deal with issues with your honor, which by rights you shouldn't concern yourself with, since as it seems, you don't see them as upholding for themselves, continue on the topic at hand. I will say I liked hearing another view on a field I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable on (wasn't exactly a fan of some of the comments or the attitude you made/had). Stay with the topic at hand, it'll annoy your haters more than giving them the satisfaction of a reply. And you might learn something, as will others. |
Darsena Izuma
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
15
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Posted - 2014.09.22 16:37:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Darsena Izuma wrote: Kimmy will never be able to wrap her mind around the concept...
I would better say, that gallenteans will never learn to respect, and will never be thus respected.
Yes, I am by birth a member of the Gallente Federation. If that tells you all that you need to know about me, then your unwillingness to think outside of your preconceived bigotries is your own problem, not mine. I am Hulang. I am Saan Go. I am a daughter of the Izuma.
You speak of respect. As Jin-Mei, I have been raised to show the proper respect to all who merit it. I try to extend this to all I meet, until it is proven that such respect is no longer warranted.
- I can respect Gallenteans, who champion individuality.
- I can respect the faith and steadfastness of the Amarr.
- I can respect the indomitable perseverance and courage of the Minmatar.
- I can even respect the strength and integrity of the Caldari.
Even when I have met those whose actions have taken the ideals of these races to a harmful extreme, or failed to live up to these ideals, it does nothing to diminish my overall respect. I understand that each race is made up of people, each different, each with different ideas, yet sharing a common heritage, and each worthy of respect both as an individual being, and as a member of a unique society with the right to follow its own course. That includes, by the way, the Caldari.
Where we differ, you and I, is that this respect is sufficient for me. I am not out to force anyone to follow my viewpoint, not even the Caldari.
See, most Caldari, even those engaged in military action against the Federation, have not tried to convert me to their viewpoint, or tried to tell me that the way I live my life is wrong. Most Gallenteans I meet have not tried to lure me into some sort of chaotic hedonism party orgy. Most Amarr I have met have (well, mostly) not tried to convert me to the worship of their God. Most Minmatar have not tried to sway me politically, or culturally. I, in return, have respected the choices of these people, their decisions of how to live their lives, or who to worship, or upon whom to wage war. In those cases where I have agreed with their choices, I might have even lent a helping hand.
That is where we differ, Ms. Kim, and why you see little respect from me. I don't even particularly care for the excesses of Caille, and find much of the Federal rhetoric tiresome. Just like I find some of the constant war-mongering from your own faction quite tiring. Yet somehow I am able to keep from demanding that either the Federation or the State be wiped out, or from justifying the murder of either peoples' civilians.
Quote:And remember one thing, your words don't represent me, as they are utter groundless lies.
One need not lie when one can merely quote your own words back at yourself. Consider your own words, Ms. Kim, and think about where you differ from those I have described above, and then consider why you have gained no respect from me. Fedo are not what they seem to be.-á Welcome to Night Vale. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1258
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Posted - 2014.09.22 17:08:00 -
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Darsena Izuma wrote: Yes, I am by birth a member of the Gallente Federation. If that tells you all that you need to know about me, then your unwillingness to think outside of your preconceived bigotries is your own problem, not mine. I am Hulang. I am Saan Go. I am a daughter of the Izuma.
Daughter of the Izuma, derailer of the threads, and spewer of insults. No. I don't judge you by your birth, but rather by your behavior, actions, upbringing and education. Just that part of your message, that I underlined, tells me more about you than all else, that I cut down. And this justifies my approach to your persona earlier. And also it means, that any conversation with YOU won't give any fruitful results. |
Deitra Vess
Dead Men Rising Circle-Of-Two
47
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Posted - 2014.09.22 17:12:00 -
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SO......... any hints at what the first cover stories going to be? |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Imperial Outlaws.
828
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Posted - 2014.09.22 17:21:00 -
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Darsena Izuma wrote: - I can respect Gallenteans, who champion individuality. - I can respect the faith and steadfastness of the Amarr. - I can respect the indomitable perseverance and courage of the Minmatar. - I can even respect the strength and integrity of the Caldari. (Emphasis me)
You make it sound like this is a special achievement. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Daamal Ulaannar
Padesar Uls
19
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Posted - 2014.09.23 09:07:00 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:SOOO......... any hints at what the first cover stories going to be?
Currently I am in the stage of gathering data and setting up the broadcasting network for the service (which I will link once ready through a Galnet link). Therefore I am preoccupied with trying to establish contacts, reading market data and building infrastructure.
Tomorrow I will begin writing. But it won't be until a few days in that I may be able to discuss or hint what some concrete headlines will be.
For the moment I would like to ask capsuleers to contribute and become a contact. Whether you are big or small in the industries, I encourage you to come forwards with information on markets or things going on in the cluster's economy (which may garner ISK rewards if useful to producing an issue) or questions about things which you would want answered.
While this is not essential to producing the news, it would help with data gathering and may let me reveal more about the situation for you. If contacts cannot be firmly built with capsuleers, still expect a full data analysis of the economy and markets of the cluster but expect there to be less insight into more subtle or obscure trends that may be missed by my high level overview.
That being said I am confident of building a few capsuleer contacts over the coming week. If not in preparation for this issue, then the next. |
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1259
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Posted - 2014.09.23 09:23:00 -
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What would be the exact duties of the contact? |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2014.09.23 09:53:00 -
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Daamal Ulaannar wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:SOOO......... any hints at what the first cover stories going to be? Currently I am in the stage of gathering data and setting up the broadcasting network for the service (which I will link once ready through a Galnet link). Therefore I am preoccupied with trying to establish contacts, reading market data and building infrastructure. Tomorrow I will begin writing. But it won't be until a few days in that I may be able to discuss or hint what some concrete headlines will be. For the moment I would like to ask capsuleers to contribute and become a contact. Whether you are big or small in the industries, I encourage you to come forwards with information on markets or things going on in the cluster's economy (which may garner ISK rewards if useful to producing an issue) or questions about things which you would want answered. While this is not essential to producing the news, it would help with data gathering and may let me reveal more about the situation for you. If contacts cannot be firmly built with capsuleers, still expect a full data analysis of the economy and markets of the cluster but expect there to be less insight into more subtle or obscure trends that may be missed by my high level overview. That being said I am confident of building a few capsuleer contacts over the coming week. If not in preparation for this issue, then the next.
I would heavily suggest securing nullsec contacts as well. Preferably someone who is intimate with the ebbs and flows of nullsec politics. Anything out of ordinary that they do have a tendency of stirring waves that you can feel all the way to Jita. Supplies get gobbled up, prices fluctuates, personal stocks empties, because someone somewhere in nullsec might had jumped a Titan instead of bridging her.
Avoid any of their official spokesperson. All they ever do is spin and spin and spin propaganda. Look for the logistics fellows. These are the movers and shakers of cluster-wide economics. |
Daamal Ulaannar
Padesar Uls
19
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Posted - 2014.09.23 11:18:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:What would be the exact duties of the contact?
Contacts would simply be someone who I would keep in contact with, discuss what they see going on around them and possibly hand a sum of ISK every now and again as a way of saying thank you if they provide useful information. It's a casual relationship.
Elmund Egivand wrote:I would heavily suggest securing nullsec contacts as well. Preferably someone who is intimate with the ebbs and flows of nullsec politics. Anything out of ordinary that they do have a tendency of stirring waves that you can feel all the way to Jita. Supplies get gobbled up, prices fluctuates, personal stocks empties, because someone somewhere in nullsec might had jumped a Titan instead of bridging her.
Avoid any of their official spokesperson. All they ever do is spin and spin and spin propaganda. Look for the logistics fellows. These are the movers and shakers of cluster-wide economics.
This is sound advice.
I will seek them out. I would be grateful if any passers by on this channel who might feel they are in a position where they can either connect me relevant null sec individuals or are the very individuals themselves that I seek would make private contact with me via mail.
I look forwards to hearing more counsel on these matters. Thank you all for supporting Padesar Uls in this most glorius venture. |
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