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Xtrah
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
186
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Posted - 2014.09.19 11:54:00 -
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Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Xtrah > *dont evict PVP entities*
Scrapping this would be better since it now is basically farm 24/7 and if your sites are out you look for pvp, makes for a stale and boring environment.
Gotta go afk now, sry.
Well, that's some way to quote out of context. I said this in Disavowed public channel back in May this year, in a discussion with Krath Argus which I assume is your main or another alt. You were pissed off on how some entities policed W-space and stopped evictions from happening. The discussion was fairly good until you meant a single lone armor Moros without support could stand a chance against a subcap fleet. @Xtrah_ - http://www.youtube.com/NoHolesBarredEVE
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Borsek
Incertae Sedis
250
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Posted - 2014.09.19 12:06:00 -
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Honestly? Without CCP?
Pull your corp apart, designate 5 leaders, people who are the best, and have the most patience. Make them form 5 corps, and divvy up the members between those corps. Each will then have a fleet size of 5 to 10. Now comes the hard part - make every corp recruit about 20 newbros, and train them up. Take people with +- 10M SP. Teach them how to make ISK, teach them how to pvp effectively. After about a year, about 10 newbros from each corp will make good pilots, and the rest will either quit or still be bad.
Congratulations, you have created 4more decent entities, thereby creating content. This post is not aimed parricularly at fremen, but I'm sure lazerhawks are large and experienced enough to be able to do something like that.
But yeah, since hyperion, holes are rolled by battleship. |
Angela Martin
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.09.19 12:53:00 -
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Darren Fox wrote:
The Corp and POS mechanics is a major barrier. Sure, it ensures that trust is extremely important for wormholers, creating tight bonds and friendships that last a long time. It also requires the player to make a greater leap than going from highsec -> Low/0.0. "How many do I have to trust?...."
As someone that was in a small lower class WH until just recently, this was by far our biggest barrier. Corp settings and POS's are a nightmare. This stopped us from ever feeling like we could recruit.
The other factor, I feel, is a lack of interesting solo content. I think there is enough isk in the lower class WHs, but if you log on and no one else logs for 30 minutes, you go play something else. Due to the isk flowing in WHs, solo PvP is very rarely a real option. In a small corp of 3, 4, 5 people, these combined issues can make growth very difficult.
In the end, half our corp left, the other half joined a larger entity. Less people in lower class WHs, higher class WHs get more bloat and fleets get bigger as a net.
In regards to the calls for more isk, I don't know if that is the answer. Nullsec is the perfect example of this. Having folks that POS up and log when they see a Buzzard on scan is not what we need.
Right now, the only reason for PvP is PvP. There is no real conflict drivers, no REASON to PvP other than liking PvP. That's fine for some, but not for all. While Faction Warfare has it's issues, the activity and PvP in those areas exploded and continues to be a hive of activity for PvP. I'm not suggesting we need FW buttons, but a reason to fight other than epeen will bring more appropriate players than increased rewards.
I don't know how to makes these things happen, but I feel these are the issues. That, and the ten T3s jumping Drakes in C2s.
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
694
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Posted - 2014.09.19 13:18:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Title changed because it mattered more than my OP
Don't use big words to try and seem smart if you don't know what they mean.
Hidden Fremen wrote:What can players do to make it better, if anything at all? This isn't a thread for CCP.
Like Borschty said, split players up. Break down the massive corps into smaller entities so that people will be more likely to fight. Right now, if a small corp rolls into HK or LZHWK, it'll be an instant close. If either of those groups was a more manageable size, then there's a higher chance they'd fight. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
CivilWars
Rolled Out Triumvirate.
192
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Posted - 2014.09.19 13:44:00 -
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At the end of the day it is all about content. If I enjoy PVP why would I choose to scan a 20 hole chain that is empty when I can live 3-5 gates, or one bridge, from people to shoot? Yes, there are some answers to that which make w-space "better" than null/low(no TiDi, supers, blobs are a few), but for the most part, for me at least, it just got to the point that it wasn't worth it. In the final days of my time in both SKY and RLLO we would scan long chains or rage roll and end up in one of three most common scenarios; empty, occupied with people to scared to actually fight us, or maybe some tasty ganks. Eventually that gets old. I am sure many of the larger groups are facing the same problems, and that is why HK spends so much time in null now because there are very few entities in w-space willing/able to fight them.
What can WE do? I know the common answer is to break up the 200+ pilot corps, but I think more important than that is we need more corps with content creators/FCs in them in w-space. More content would bring more residents, and the pendulum would begin to swing back the other way. We Re-Rolled. Stop by public channel Rolled Out to join the fun.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1873
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Posted - 2014.09.19 13:50:00 -
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^ You sure love "content" but what do you mean by "content"? +1 |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
819
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:24:00 -
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Main change (or enhancement) I want to see is keeping it so that smaller entities can manipulate the terrain to survive against larger ones in day to day activities.
Another change I've been mulling over would be to add some frig only systems (without anchorable moons) and move some of the frig connections to and from those - could be interesting for both PVP and PVE aspects with less of an impact on the main area of w-space. |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
877
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:25:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Title changed because it mattered more than my OP... Title changed because gentrification doesn't mean what you thought it meant Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
500
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:25:00 -
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Its been said already: better POS security and roles management would spur growth in lower classes. Thats been known for ages now. Asking big groups to voluntarily dissolve is incredibly naive and unattainable, never gonna happen. We have better chance harassing CCP to fix things or at least give us PSMAs...
btw alliance BMs might help things a little bit too - each tower different corp... but they might also allow the current top end to grow too W-Space Realtor |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
53
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:31:00 -
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So, firstly it would be nice if CCP would make WH pvp into more of a rock-paper-scissors sort of game as Eve is supposed to be. There should be a highly mobile platform to counter the T3 gangs. Right now the Ishtar is a fairly decent counter, but only if you can get them to jump into you.
This is why I support the idea that maybe the speed you are going when you hit "enter wormhole" should somehow determine your distance from the other side. This could perhaps allow an Ishtar gang to hit the WH at 1.7 km/s and then maybe spawn on the other side ~35km from the hole or something? That's about a 1:20 modifier. Of course at that ratio frigs could spawn at 100km+. Obviously there would need to be some sort of negative logarithmic curve to the distance so you didn't have extremely remote spawns.
More changes like this would be great, but they require CCP intervention. The current pvp meta is so stale. Lets hope the upcoming T3 rebalance works as intended.
As for what we can do as players, I say we need to just bring in more people. INSRT is trying to be a good citizen of WH space by accepting adorable newbros who will hopefully go out and shoot/get shot at by people. In the end what we really need is more people who really live in wormholes, not just farm their home sites. Even groups that farm down the chain are fine with me because at least then there's a reason for gank fleets to go out scanning and pewing.
Farmers > Gankers > Apex Pvp fleets.
This is why CCP should make WH static farming more enticing somehow. At the same time, I think that there should be more NPC's that point in these sites, so that the farmers can be violenced more often.
Since we now have frig holes, perhaps we could have frig-only sites in wormholes? This idea would be an anom similar to the burner missions that would limit the hull type and be reasonably lucrative to run. Perhaps they could be Anoikis-wide and occur in a similar fashion to the ghost sites (i.e. random) but be much more common?
Finally, we should come together as a community to create content. The "Danger Zone" roams with HK were alot of fun, and we all got to meet and hang out. Perhaps we could arrange more content along these lines for wormholers? Perhaps someone could schedule another thunderdome event for people to come to a certain WH and PVP?
Most important though is that we have our WH CSM reps sing for us. Corbexx has majestically sang a Tribute for us, now it's the new guy's turn. Hit me up in-game for Ts3 info. If you tell me what song ahead of time, I'll get you background music. |
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chris elliot
Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel
401
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:42:00 -
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Rroff wrote:Main change (or enhancement) I want to see is keeping it so that smaller entities can manipulate the terrain to survive against larger ones in day to day activities.
Another change I've been mulling over would be to add some frig only systems (without anchorable moons) and move some of the frig connections to and from those - could be interesting for both PVP and PVE aspects with less of an impact on the main area of w-space.
It exists already, it's called lowsec faction warfare, and it's terribly boring. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
819
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Posted - 2014.09.19 14:53:00 -
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chris elliot wrote: It exists already, it's called lowsec faction warfare, and it's terribly boring.
lol wondered if someone would reply with something like that, not sure if there would be enough distinction to make it worth doing but I'd be more tempted to role a couple of alts for a frig limited sub-set of w-space than to join up with FW though :S |
Bluetippedflyer
Space Jerks
95
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Posted - 2014.09.19 15:17:00 -
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as a former wh resident (moved out a year ago) whats changed thats made it worse? i remember getting into fights inside holes every now and then but most of out fights came from nullsec entities. Life was good no complaints. |
Sith1s Spectre
Rolled Out Triumvirate.
1235
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Posted - 2014.09.19 15:45:00 -
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I think you guys are forgetting one main important thing.
People.
I mean I could list at least a dozen great other groups/leaders/content creators who simply aren't around or have moved on.
Sure, there are up and coming groups within WH space who have filled a couple of the voids as of late but when you have so many people leaving the game (and or WH space) it still leave a big gap.
I think that it's happening not just within WH space, but Eve in general and unfortunately I don't really have a solution to that problem Rolled Out 2.0 is back. -áBut not in the way you're probably thinking-á
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Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
266
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Posted - 2014.09.19 15:48:00 -
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W-space does not need more arbitrary limits governing what you can an can't do that have no relation to playstyle/mechanics of w-space at large.
Things of that nature are bad gameplay and teach people habits at best that are useless elsewhere and worst leave them horrendous targets that will cause them to die in a terrible fire and not come back.
What me need IMHO is a better way to draw in people slowly to give them a chance to daytrip/explore and decide they like it and then settle in a wormhole. I've said it often, w-space has a very small pool of regular people to draw from, we basically recycle a lot of the same folks from group to group until boredom siphons them off. Like it or not new blood is what will get things to a state where is not 20 empty systems before you find stuff.
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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
504
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Posted - 2014.09.19 15:53:00 -
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I had an idea what gentrification meant, then I Googled it and read the first half. Thread was born. Was drunk when posted. My corp can confirm. Could probably get confirms from others, too, as I was very chatty and posting pics of my ale and chalice. Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
695
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Posted - 2014.09.19 16:10:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:I mean I could list at least a dozen great other groups/leaders/content creators
IM GOING TO BE SO OFFENDED IF IM NOT ON THAT LIST
Hidden Fremen wrote:I had an idea what gentrification meant, then I Googled it and read the first half. Thread was born. Was drunk when posted. My corp can confirm. Could probably get confirms from others, too, as I was very chatty and posting pics of my ale and chalice.
You get brownie points if it was a Belgian drank out of the proper glass.
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Borsek
Incertae Sedis
253
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Posted - 2014.09.19 16:26:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:I think you guys are forgetting one main important thing.
People.
I mean I could list at least a dozen great other groups/leaders/content creators who simply aren't around or have moved on.
Sure, there are up and coming groups within WH space who have filled a couple of the voids as of late but when you have so many people leaving the game (and or WH space) it still leave a big gap.
I think that it's happening not just within WH space, but Eve in general and unfortunately I don't really have a solution to that problem
At first I wanted to call this bullshit, but numbers haven't been as low as now since 2008, and there were probably less alts back then.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Also, solution for low population might be a sov reset to shake things up in null, that's why the focus is on null, atm. Inb4 eve goes f2p but you need to buy CCashPoints to pour directly into skills. 10000$? Instant 120M SP character! |
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
504
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:12:00 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:You get brownie points if it was a Belgian drank out of the proper glass. Back on topic! Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |
chris elliot
Yoyodyne corporation Shadow Cartel
401
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:22:00 -
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Rroff wrote:chris elliot wrote: It exists already, it's called lowsec faction warfare, and it's terribly boring.
lol wondered if someone would reply with something like that, not sure if there would be enough distinction to make it worth doing but I'd be more tempted to role a couple of alts for a frig limited sub-set of w-space than to join up with FW though :S
It's the same terrible cancer, the location isn't going to make it any better.
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Billy Hardcore
Jaded.
171
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Posted - 2014.09.19 18:29:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:If you're trying to make corps smaller and more numerous in wspace you need to fix the Apex fleet problem. T3's are the best by far and the only reliable counter to them is to bring more T3's. If there was more of a rock/paper/scissors style fleet engagements would be more interesting. It wouldn't be an arms race to get more t3's in fleet. Until T3s are rebalanced/nerfed nothings gonna change.
CCP needs to make it possible for a small group to take on a large group in wh's. Then you'll get smaller groups populating wspace.
T3 BATTLESHIPSSSSS #BillyFleet |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
697
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Posted - 2014.09.19 19:06:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:You get brownie points if it was a Belgian drank out of the proper glass. Back on topic!
Back off topic, how was it? I have a bottle of that sitting in my fridge. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
CivilWars
Rolled Out Triumvirate.
193
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Posted - 2014.09.19 19:38:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:^ You sure love "content" but what do you mean by "content"? There is only one brand of content that means anything to me, and that is mutually consensual PVP. I know many people say we need to boost industry in w-space to recruit more bears to harvest, but to me that is just Rapier*, and we all know that is a bad thing, mkay. Content to me is our chains magically meet, we lock eyes, and both say(in our best Marvin Gaye voice), "Let's get it on." Brawl happens, and we both return home to a smoke satisfied and fulfilled no matter who "won".
Look how many people started playing EVE (again) after Asakai, B-R, etc. W-space needs "epic battles" like that to attract new blood to it. Epic battles can be something as simple as 10-15 T3s with cap support, or someone going balls deep. It doesn't have to be trillions of isk lost in a battle that lasted 3 days in game, but only 30 minutes in real time. Good fights lead to interest, interest leads to recruitment, recruitment leads to more people to pew with/against, which leads to more good fights, and thus the cycle repeats. People POS spinning and/or logging of at any sign of danger leads to people leaving w-space, and that cycle also continues.
*You are smart, you figure it out. We Re-Rolled. Stop by public channel Rolled Out to join the fun.
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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
504
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:22:00 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Hidden Fremen wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:You get brownie points if it was a Belgian drank out of the proper glass. Back on topic! Back off topic, how was it? I have a bottle of that sitting in my fridge. I drank two. It was delicious.
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Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
504
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:03:00 -
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Flavor of this thread is: smaller corps.
Epic battles are epic because large corps can field epic fleets. And without an CCP implemented corp size cap, downsizing for ideals is not gonna happen. Yes, human nature, sure, but also because it's too much work monitoring/managing a limit on your numbers while managing activity, too. You turn off recruitment, you member base slowly begins to quiet, suddenly, you're inactive. Bump recruitment again for new blood.
The only thing that'd fix the swell is a coded corp number limit. We all used to enjoy stories of two giants duking it out. These days, our giants are too gentle.
I might be wrong because #hiddenfremen...
Another thing some wanted changed was the no-evictions thing. Again, not gonna happen. We want more people, but people still need to fear they'll lose their home one day. It's ******* wspace. You know, the place we all boast about being sooo dangerous? Snipped signature for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne |
Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Redux
84
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:17:00 -
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I used to live the the WH the corp I'm in owned. I moved out. Why? lack of content. We're in a C2 (small corp) and 1 motivated pilot can keep the system completely clean of sigs to run (other than ore, that usually takes 2 pilots). The rest of the time you have to go to lowsec or nullsec to find any type of content and well, it just wasn't worth it for me.
This keeps the corp from being able to get more pilots out there because that same 1 or 2 motivated pilots can clean out the close LS systems or our neighboring WH and everyone else is left standing around with their thumbs up their butts.
Since we can't get more people out to the WH because of lack of content we can't move up to a higher WH with escalations or more group oriented PvE/PvP.
C1's need to be able to support 1-5 active pilots, C2's 6-12 active pilots and right now they just can't. A C1 isn't worth jumping into for anything other than PI and a C2 can only keep 1 pilot active. |
Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:33:00 -
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CivilWars wrote:There is only one brand of content that means anything to me, and that is mutually consensual PVP. As a new guy here, I've read many of your posts and respect your opinion. However, why do you prefer to leave carebears (like myself) alone? I mean, I don't want my POSes bashed or anything (and spent a lot of money on things that are useless to me unless that happens) but I'd never be upset that someone killed me in W-space.
I think the economy and game-play in W-space would benefit if asteroid anoms turned back into sites that have to be scanned. It would give me something else to do there with less risk. Now that ore compression is better (you can haul a shitload of veldspar & scordite to w-space in a t2 hauler) it would be nice if I could construct more ships locally. I'd be more willing to lose them if I was building them in W-space with mostly-native mats instead of spending time to haul **** in.
CivilWars wrote:Look how many people started playing EVE (again) after Asakai, B-R, etc. W-space needs "epic battles" like that to attract new blood to it. Not to tread on the "discussion of forum moderation" too much, but there was a cool thread the other day from Lazerhawks that was entirely about a W-space siege and it got kicked to some other sub-forum.
Yet two weeks ago, CCP partnered with that eve-bet site to basically manufacture a rare super kill with hopes of generating some interest in both the event (clearly successul as 4000+ in system) and maybe in getting people to re-subscribe or whatever.
How does the CCP PR machine not communicate to ISD that a thread about sieging someone's hole is fun and interesting to read; and the kind of thing some players might aspire to participate in? They should want to elevate news like this, not bury it in a different sub-forum to cut off discussion.
So my point here is, they spent a bunch of dev effort basically trying to promote more W-space PVP, but there is a thread telling about a siege and instead of going, hey, here is players having fun (at least the Lazerhawks side) they fail to recognize the potential upside of that and actually bury it. |
Proclus Diadochu
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
1849
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:35:00 -
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Hidden Fremen wrote:What can players do to make it better, if anything at all? This isn't a thread for CCP. Probably the worst and best thing we ever did was organize wormhole groups. It's twofold, as it proves the successful and determined effort and capability of the playerbase, but at the same time, there are channels, third-party services, diplomats, "blues", loose coalitions (more like groups that will work together at a whim), forums, help threads, and all the other nonsense that comes along with organizing a variety of random groups, which destroys the mystery of the frontier.
The friendships exist now, so saying "get rid of it all, close the channels, kill the mappers, and nuke standings from high orbit" will likely be ignored, even if players made an active effort to agree to a plan. That alone would require organization and "rules".
Hyperion didn't create the problems that have caused the increasing (relative) boredom (for some) in wormholes, and that boredom isn't across the board. Some groups still get fights/fun, and some don't. Many of the players who find wormholes dead/dying are the ones that don't have any "mystery" or fun left to have in the current iteration. For guys like Fremen, the fun is in the friends and enjoying the game with those friends, shooting targets when available and being a leader in a community. This is where I was for a long time, since wormholes lost the fun that drew me to them years ago, "the unknown".
The only fix is for newer players without the experience and knowledge to rise and enjoy the mysteries and fun, until they reach that sacred place where there is none left to experience, then their continuation and/or enjoyment in wormholes/Eve will depend on the friends they have and the fun that they can make from wherever they are when things become known.
tl;dr - The sandbox is only as fun as the people you play with, and that determines how long the fun lasts before it becomes boring.
**Irrelevant-á| Twitter: @autoritare | [email protected] My Blog: http://diogenes-club.blogspot.com/ | The Diogenes Club |
Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:36:00 -
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Leoric Firesword wrote:I used to live the the WH the corp I'm in owned. I moved out. Why? lack of content. Man that's every low-class hole. My corp has a C4 (which we dont go to much since Hyperion) and we farmed our static. We don't do that lately as the risk increased a lot, but before frig holes and such, if we didn't have content in our system we'd roll our static a couple times and find a neighboring system full of goodies, and go get them. Sometimes we'd roll into a PVP gang by accident, oops, that's life; but it is all fun. |
Alundil
Isogen 5
666
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Posted - 2014.09.19 21:59:00 -
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Leoric Firesword wrote:I used to live the the WH the corp I'm in owned. I moved out. Why? lack of content. We're in a C2 (small corp) and 1 motivated pilot can keep the system completely clean of sigs to run (other than ore, that usually takes 2 pilots). The rest of the time you have to go to lowsec or nullsec to find any type of content and well, it just wasn't worth it for me.
This keeps the corp from being able to get more pilots out there because that same 1 or 2 motivated pilots can clean out the close LS systems or our neighboring WH and everyone else is left standing around with their thumbs up their butts.
Since we can't get more people out to the WH because of lack of content we can't move up to a higher WH with escalations or more group oriented PvE/PvP.
C1's need to be able to support 1-5 active pilots, C2's 6-12 active pilots and right now they just can't. A C1 isn't worth jumping into for anything other than PI and a C2 can only keep 1 pilot active. If you limit your definition of "content" to PVE sites and refuse (apparently) to look for that same kind of "content" in the wh connections adjacent to you then yes. It's entirely possible for a very small number of active pilots to deplete all of that "content" in the home system. You imply that this is a low class wh issue but the reality is that it is entirely possible for the same low number of pilots to deplete PVE sites in any class of wh system. If you're using a wh for nothing other than ISK generation via sleeper sites but fail to run those in your static and then roll/repeat you're missing the true income potential in wspace c4 and below. the ISK is literally in the static.
With that said, if you're trying to get new people to move to "any part of EVE" for the PVE content alone then you are really doing them a disservice as EVE's PVE is the absolute worst out of any MMO that I can think of...ever (potential exceptions are the new burner missions).
The "content" that most ppl here are looking for is of the "I shoot you, you shoot me and x number of explosions occur" variety. That is the missing part of wspace in EVE and has been on the decline for quite some time. Having had numerous conversations with Civilwars (and others) about this very thing we've agreed (basically) that there's not really anything that we, the players, can do as a group to effect a change. Human nature tends to look for groupings that are beneficial to the members of said groupings. That means that groups will tend to always gain more pilots rather than actively shed pilots (unless the leadership has a strict idea on active numbers caps and engagement profiles).
In essence; 1. If there are no penalties to large corp/alliance sizes then there will be very few groups that willingly choose to remain small. 2. If there are no compelling reasons to do battle with a neighbor (such that have an effect on their home/membership/income), there will be a low frequency of battle. 3. If there are no game reasons to move into wspace (engaging new CCP content, higher realized income potential, specialized equipment/items/etc) then the number of pilots willing to move in will remain low.
Some of these, CCP might be able to look into. Some of these are related to human nature and the general desire of status quo that many people desire as well as varying degrees of risk taking/aversion. In my mind, #s 2 and 3 are the most pertinent, but also the most difficult to address.
Wspace is still my favorite type of space. However, at this point I'm pretty certain that it's my favorite type due to nostalgia and not because there are more fun things/people to do/shoot.
Until some of those things change, this will likely be the status quo for wspace.
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