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Knight TheCross
Forgoten Industries
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Posted - 2014.09.21 04:15:00 -
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Every now and then I jump into caldari space to run exploration sites in my Ishtar. I have never, not even once, got a mod drop or an esculation from the Guristas sites, not even an esculation pop up message to say I got it or not! I have run 100's of Guristas sites and activate the triggers every time but I get zip! I've always done serpentis sites which I seem to get between 1-4 drops per site as well as most sites escalating, even if they don't I at least get the pop up message saying I didn't.
So what is happening? This can't be just bad luck, statistically I should have got even some faction ammo by now! Expand my brain learning juice! |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.21 05:34:00 -
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Knight TheCross wrote:Every now and then I jump into caldari space to run exploration sites in my Ishtar. I have never, not even once, got a mod drop or an esculation from the Guristas sites, not even an esculation pop up message to say I got it or not! I have run 100's of Guristas sites and activate the triggers every time but I get zip! I've always done serpentis sites which I seem to get between 1-4 drops per site as well as most sites escalating, even if they don't I at least get the pop up message saying I didn't.
So what is happening? This can't be just bad luck, statistically I should have got even some faction ammo by now!
But it is just bad luck... Statistically you are not guaranteed anything! |
Knight TheCross
Forgoten Industries
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Posted - 2014.09.21 08:38:00 -
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But coupled with absolutely no game input about escalations like pop up messages saying that "the trail seems to have run cold at this point" makes me very suspicious that something foul is afoot! In other empire space at least there's a message to say I did or did not get the esculation. Expand my brain learning juice! |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
29115
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Posted - 2014.09.21 11:15:00 -
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Well, I usually run Angel sites so I can't really say one way or the other if there's a problem with the Guristas sites.
However in my experience I've noticed there's a better chance to get Overseer / Commander spawns than to get an escalation. Also if there's no escalation then there's no message. Now when an escalation does happen then there will definitely be a message. Sometimes it stops right there and other times it continues on to next stage, hopefully it'll go all the way to last stage.
The DED Rated sites should always have an Overseer / Commander NPC spawn. I'd suggest running some of those sites first before saying there's a problem with the Guristas Exploration sites. If there's no Overseer / Commander NPC's in the DED Rated sites then there's definitely a bug happening. Best thing to do is submit a Support Ticket and file a bug report.
Good luck.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
559
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Posted - 2014.09.21 13:27:00 -
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If I do anomalies for a few hours, I usually get at least one dread gurista rat. I would not make enough to plex my account with their loot, but I did get a couple of implants and one worm bpc from anomalies and belt rats.
On the topic of escalations. I have had two in the past 4 months or so. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Banko Mato
Republic University Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2014.09.21 14:49:00 -
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Should we ask the mods to merge this thread with one of the hundreds "I did x invention attempts and only got y T2 BPCs, while I expected it to be at least z, Something must be broken!!!" threads?
It's all is luck based and the only things you will get every time are tags from overseers in unrated sites and the OPE in case of rated DED plexes... |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
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Posted - 2014.09.21 16:59:00 -
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Knight TheCross wrote:But coupled with absolutely no game input about escalations like pop up messages saying that "the trail seems to have run cold at this point" makes me very suspicious that something foul is afoot! In other empire space at least there's a message to say I did or did not get the esculation.
The only time you get a message is when warping to data/relic sites, warping to DED or certain anomalies, getting an escalation or when on an escalation it ends. If you run random guristas anomaly and there is no escalation, there is no message. Commander spawns, dread gurista _______, will be the commander spawn and is totally random in anomalies but certain DED have guaranteed commanders. |
letmepost Parmala
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.21 19:01:00 -
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Because Goons farm plex like crazy, screwing ratio drop on plexes?
To your knowledge: they run an internal "service" named "run it" that does every 8/10 10/10 that all their afk ishtars have when farming anomalies, giving 50% to the ones that give them BMs. They run every 8/10 10/10 that pop from anomalies, making absolutly crazy profits and isk/hour ratio. I'm pretty sure it screws plex drop ratio of guristas.
I also used to farm guristas plexes (around 10 or more), did the escalations, and add absolutly nothing looted. I quited. |
Lazerath Kang
Conquering Darkness
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Posted - 2014.09.21 23:23:00 -
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Nothing is wrong. I got 4 escalations in the past 5 days. Working as intended. Blnt |
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.09.22 04:06:00 -
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lol, I *do* so love the "It's all the Goons fault" response up there. Wow!
As if people actively running sites is going to change a ratio. If there's a ratio it will only mean that, on average, folk who run more sites will get more deadspace/officer spawns, escalations, etc ... in absolute terms ofc.
CFC folk, owning a lot of Guristas space, do seem to make active use of their space ... and they do have a variety of services that will take your escalation, run it, and variously share the takings with you. These can be fairly handy for people not bothered with the hassle of an escalation or who're not yet skilled or resourced enough to contemplate The Maze (etc). that's just an example of enterprising folkk leveraging their skills to make some isk and help out other en route ... but I guess it's a bad thing because [GRRRR GOONS!].
Random is random is random, so I doubt that there's some grand conspiracy or even fundamentally brokem mechanisc going on here. Be patient Butterfly, be patient. I do not rat much nowadays but I did get a DG in a mining site last week (and did not realise it until someone piped-up in local asking what the DG dropped). I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
29128
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:44:00 -
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Lazerath Kang wrote:Nothing is wrong. I got 4 escalations in the past 5 days. Working as intended. Blnt 4 escalations within 5 days?
That's a rather misleading statement.
Just exactly how many sites were completed within the 5 days to get those 4 escalations? 10, 50, 100 or more?
That would give a better estimate of an average percentage.
Within the past 5 years I've completed over 100's and 100's of Angel Hideaway Anomalies. As such, I can estimate that on average at least 1 Commander NPC will spawn within 10 Angel Hideaways completed. I can also say with certainty that the Angel Hideaway Anomaly site will not escalate to expedition. That very well could be the reason for the higher percentage of Commander spawns..
A newish player could view the lack of escalation on that site as a bug to which they wouldn't be wrong. Unfortunately the actual bug is the DEV's never programed an escalation for that site in the first place.
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Voxinian
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:05:00 -
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I do get drops (no escelations), but the drops are so louzy that I wonder if I should still bother with it. Last decent drop was 1 month ago where I got a faction module and a mid grade implant. After that and doing hundreds of sites I only got some tags and louzy faction ammo. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8275
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:18:00 -
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Voxinian wrote:I do get drops (no escelations), but the drops are so louzy that I wonder if I should still bother with it. Last decent drop was 1 month ago where I got a faction module and a mid grade implant. After that and doing hundreds of sites I only got some tags and louzy faction ammo.
Same here, in 3 months I've gotten a few nice modules from Faction Bs spawns in null sec, but not a single escalation. It's a bit frustrating because the escalation (and it's chance of a good drop even though most of the time it's just a overseer's box) is what makes doing anomalies bearable to me.
This is the longest drought I've ever had and i find myself now more likely to do something else (lvl 5s, npc null missions, or high sec stuff) than screwing around with null anomalies.
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Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Redux
84
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Posted - 2014.09.22 17:45:00 -
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looks like RNG hates you.
See RNG is a finicky thing, do something that makes it mad and it'll hate you for a LONG time. I've run sites (usually 40-50 on the weekend) for the last year and got my first module drop a few mornings ago.
I still haven't gotten an escalation. So...yeah...
That said, I think (don't know if this is accurate) that there's a better chance of escalation/loot with lower security space (I do all my sites in highsec) |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8278
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Posted - 2014.09.22 18:27:00 -
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Leoric Firesword wrote:looks like RNG hates you.
See RNG is a finicky thing, do something that makes it mad and it'll hate you for a LONG time. I've run sites (usually 40-50 on the weekend) for the last year and got my first module drop a few mornings ago.
I still haven't gotten an escalation. So...yeah...
That said, I think (don't know if this is accurate) that there's a better chance of escalation/loot with lower security space (I do all my sites in highsec)
The system I have access to is a -0.76. Yes, the RNG freaking hates me lol.
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