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Carber
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
18
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Posted - 2014.09.28 12:51:00 -
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Noo Don't close them )=.
It's sad there is some people like that,, that is forceing you to close them,, I suggest its time to pull out the dusty old BAN HAMMER: and show them that CCP love their community! By punishing the evil doers! |
Naburi NasNaburi
A Little Peculiar borealis
273
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Posted - 2014.09.28 13:24:00 -
[242] - Quote
CCP just let me know that:
Quote:We are contacting you to remind you that according to our records you have 6 days left on your non-recurring subscription to EVE Online.
You know what, CCP ?
Nope... Nope.. Nope.. and ehm.. this one? Also Nope.
Buh Bye :)
(And Nope.. my stuff? You can not have it)
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Darkblad
Hilfe is like free Entertainment
509
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Posted - 2014.09.28 13:46:00 -
[243] - Quote
Naburi NasNaburi wrote:Buh Bye :) You've still got 6 days left to join some of us at the monument next to the monument. EVE Infolinks -+-áOld and new-áPortraits |
Syah Kircheis
Mini Crescent Moon
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 16:46:00 -
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I think you don't know what are you going to do.
Do you really know what will happen after closing official language channel ?
Don't do it.
This is more important than game play(balance change, model change etc ) to some people. This issue cannot be underestimated. |
AndRe GomeL
Cube Ural corporation Northern Associates.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:03:00 -
[245] - Quote
-Å -+-Ç-+-é-+-¦ -+-¦-¦-Ç-ï-é-+-Å -Å-+-ï-¦-+-¦-ï-à -¦-¦-+-¦-+-+-¦ -+ -Å -¦-ï-Ç-¦-¦-¦-Ä -ü-¦-+-¦ -+-Ç-+-é-¦-ü-é--ü-¦-¦-¦-¦-+ -+-¦-é -ì-é-+-+-â -Ç-¦-ê-¦-+-+-Ä. I am against closing language channels, and I express my protest, say no to that decision. |
Mei Ji Yang
CLOUD TEMPLE supercell.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:03:00 -
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This is a really bad idea. New korean players come to Korean chat to get help and we all provide help to them. This would most likely result in more korean players quitting. Besides the community that the korean people had in the Korean chat would be severely hurt by this move. There might not be visible impacts at first. But I think the game play experience of many non English speakers would be hurt. I think it would be a good idea to not impement this, but even afterwards it would be most appreciated if the language channels are revived. |
Xin Un-Duro
Interbellum Mutual Assured Destruction
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:08:00 -
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0.o On the most dificult game to learn, you decide close language channels in game ... , very smart. eny1 think on put a text on MOTD chat somethink like .. "NO SUPPORTED CHANNEL " .... sure not, better close all, good luck losing players, then put a free ship for new accounts .... .
you realy moderate help channels ??
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
2990
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:14:00 -
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Spread the word! Enter all channels and share this message:
Warning: CCP will shut down this and all other language channels on September 30th. Link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5045392#post5045392 Please spread the word and protest at the thread. Defend your community! The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
MarekCZE
The Chosen 0nes DARKNESS.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:14:00 -
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Dont worry people... soon CCP will have to sell company because debt. For now shares rising but its only fake made by them. They making every expansion more and more stupid changes because they are out of ideas so instead of evolution we have decadence. Its CCP politics to crush this project and suck money from customers as much as it is possible in shortest time no matter what. Cuz policy here is clear... be to see... so stop crying... check your payments off and this is best weapon you have. Show them with money whos BOSS and just stop spending ur money. |
Xispa Alborada
Oscuro Amanecer
5
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:22:00 -
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Please dont close spanish channel, think in new players, they are lost enough at the start..... |
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Desalmada Nolen
Irmandade Colonial
2
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Posted - 2014.09.28 18:00:00 -
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Please CCP ... Dont close any one chat language ...
because new players hava a difficult in play de game ... and all search one modo to find a player can speak your language ...
if yours close Chats ... how a new players find a players speak your language ...
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Praetar
Malevolence Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 19:46:00 -
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CCP, you receive a bunch of tickets and you decide to close historic language channels that hundreds of people use to avoid the problem.
Let the games begin...
I beg you foreign players of EVE Online to join these Faction and Technology channels after the release of Oceanus to continue your activities in your faction or technic language: Amarr GÇô Ukranian Ammatar - Swedish Angel Cartel - Romanian Blood Raiders GÇô Portugese Caldari - Polish CONCORD - Spanish Gallente - Norwegian Guristas - Lithuanian Interbus - Latvian Jove - Korean Khanid Kingdom - Italian MorduGÇÖs Legion GÇô Hungarian ORE - Finnish SanshaGÇÖs Nation - Dutch Serpentis - Danish Sisters of EVE GÇô Czech/Slovak The Society - Croatian The Syndicate - Chinese Thukker GÇô Bulgarian Linux - Brazilian Steam - Belarussian MS Windows - Afrikaans
Less populated channels not listed: Greek, Filipino, Faroese, Estonian, Arabic, Albanian, Afrikaans, Hebrew, Vietnamese, Turkish, Slovenian, Serbian and Icelandic.
Close all your public channels or close none! That's it! |
ArmyOfMe
Origin. Black Legion.
307
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Posted - 2014.09.28 20:14:00 -
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Im sorry, but thats a horrible f'ing move. Those channels are used for so much good, that removing them is just yet another proof of why there are 30k ppl less online at peak hours then before. CCP screwing up yet again. /golfclap QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
90
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:00:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, has someone contacted the CSM? Is there any CSM who speaks a non-supported language and can understand what those channels mean to our communities? Sugar Kyle talks about this in her CSM9 - Day 147 roundup. I suppose I'm gratified that she and I agree that one way forward would be to overhaul the chat finder. Nevertheless, I'd have liked to see the CSM engaging in the discussion in this thread as well. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Frygok
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:22:00 -
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Praetar wrote:CCP, you receive a bunch of tickets and you decide to close historic language channels that hundreds of people use to avoid the problem.
Let the games begin...
I beg you foreign players of EVE Online to join these Faction and Technology channels after the release of Oceanus to continue your activities in your faction or technic language: Amarr GÇô Ukranian Ammatar - Swedish Angel Cartel - Romanian Blood Raiders GÇô Portugese Caldari - Polish CONCORD - Spanish Gallente - Norwegian Guristas - Lithuanian Interbus - Latvian Jove - Korean Khanid Kingdom - Italian MorduGÇÖs Legion GÇô Hungarian ORE - Finnish SanshaGÇÖs Nation - Dutch Serpentis - Danish Sisters of EVE GÇô Czech/Slovak The Society - Croatian The Syndicate - Chinese Thukker GÇô Bulgarian Linux - Brazilian Steam - Belarussian MS Windows - Afrikaans
Less populated channels not listed: Greek, Filipino, Faroese, Estonian, Arabic, Albanian, Afrikaans, Hebrew, Vietnamese, Turkish, Slovenian, Serbian and Icelandic.
Close all your public channels or close none! That's it!
The danes have taken over the Serpentis channel, and are manufacturing high-quality drugs as we speak! |
Charoth Amperod
x13
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:22:00 -
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i am so mad right now. Danish people are going to join serp channel and own it
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Bailian Moxtain
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
15
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:38:00 -
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worst ever, norwegian chan was one of few reasons why I kept playing this game back when I was a noobie |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2993
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:56:00 -
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Morihei Akachi wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, has someone contacted the CSM? Is there any CSM who speaks a non-supported language and can understand what those channels mean to our communities? Sugar Kyle talks about this in her CSM9 - Day 147 roundup. I suppose I'm gratified that she and I agree that one way forward would be to overhaul the chat finder. Nevertheless, I'd have liked to see the CSM engaging in the discussion in this thread as well.
Creating a chat search function would work as well as having a corp search function. Better than nothing, but not exactly what a new player wishes to see when he's in need of help. The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
NightmareX
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
518
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:02:00 -
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Bailian Moxtain wrote:worst ever, norwegian chan was one of few reasons why I kept playing this game back when I was a noobie I have to totally agree to this as i have been a part of the Norwegian channel since 2004 until it gets removed. Such a sad day.
And no, i wont support the removing of the language channels if you wonder CCP. Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos.
Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama (31.10.2013): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291945 Rebirth 4: http://tinyurl.com/ktfyalo |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
2993
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:23:00 -
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Didn't want to bring a offtopic here, but I've started a thread on the effectiveness and abbilty of the EULA to shelter players who don't use a supported language: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5061124#post5061124
The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
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Elly May
Lock'n'Point
3
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:25:00 -
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Still playing dead CCP? You're pathetic. |
Calando
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
0
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:31:00 -
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I'm curious what you people expect CCP to do, in light of the reasons they've stated. Should the entire CCP staff take a year off development and maintenance of EVE to learn every language in the world so they can adequately moderate every official language channel, as their own EULA stipulates they must do?
Here's an idea: how about all of you learn to speak English, instead of forcing CCP to learn 500 different languages and dialects. |
Morihei Akachi
Nishida Corporation
91
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:41:00 -
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Calando wrote:I'm curious what you people expect CCP to do, in light of the reasons they've stated. Should the entire CCP staff take a year off development and maintenance of EVE to learn every language in the world so they can adequately moderate every official language channel, as their own EULA stipulates they must do? Here's an idea: how about all of you learn to speak English, instead of forcing CCP to learn 500 different languages and dialects. You've clearly not bothered to read the thread. (And your post is a perfect example of the kind of puerile Anglophone arrogance it would be nice to see the 21st century someday overcome.) I've made two substantive suggestions about what I want CCP to do. CCP hasn't bothered to respond to either of them, nor to any of the concerns people have voiced here. Nor has it bothered to announce in the MOTDs that the channels are being shut down. Surely even someone like yourself can see that this is less than optimal. Your spirit is the true shield. |
Frygok
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:58:00 -
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Calando wrote:I'm curious what you people expect CCP to do, in light of the reasons they've stated. Should the entire CCP staff take a year off development and maintenance of EVE to learn every language in the world so they can adequately moderate every official language channel, as their own EULA stipulates they must do? If they change nothing, they risk legal repercussions for inaction. They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Here's an idea: how about all of you learn to speak English, instead of forcing CCP to learn 500 different languages and dialects.
No, they could just realize that while there might be a few/some national channels that requires moderation, some of us actually have extremely nice and well-driven channels, where the focus is on having a good time, and helping out the new players that quickly finds the national channels and asks for advice in terms of skillpoints, corporations and generally how to go about playing the game. Some of these are even insecure in their usage of the english language, and have found an easier time getting help in their mother tongue. An option that CCP now wants to deny them.
For instance the danish channel has been an excellent place for discussions, and has even had a danish developer participating in talks. Just because some countries have issues with trolls (there is a magical button called 'block' for spammers and ****), doesn't mean the rest of us should be punished.
Anyway, the danes are starting to set up in the Serpentis channel, in order to have our existing in-game community active after this unimpressive change. |
WILLY TROPICAL
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2014.09.29 01:17:00 -
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I hope the spanish community relaunches a new channel because it is always fun to read random poor sods complaining about some gold stolen and ugly women ****** 500 years ago. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1394
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Posted - 2014.09.29 02:43:00 -
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Samsara Toldya wrote:Am I forced by CCP to moderate my player run channels - if yes - what consequenced do I have to suffer if ToS breaking will happen inside the channel?
1) Yes, but CCP can and will punish you for doing so in a way that doesn't align with their ideal if someone decides to ***** up the chain about it.
2) All of them, of course.
CCP needs to take a step back and look at exactly how moronic, contradictory and hypocritical this stance is.
They can't be bothered to police language-support channels where there is apparently an abundance of seriously harmful trolling and abusive behavior.
And yet, they're more than happy to throw out warnings to people in otherwise calm player-owned channels for dropping an f-bomb in casual conversation because someone feels like abusing the petition system just to be a ****. What is the point in having player-run channels in the first place if people can just go whine to CCP instead of putting on their big-kid pants and either using the block function or leaving the channel?
Either tell the GMs to stay the hell out of player-owned channels in all but the most egregious circumstances (death threats, RL-related crime, etc), CCP, or have them be the thought police for ALL of them.
No picking and choosing. All channels, or none. Be consistent.
Darkblad wrote:Solecist Project wrote:If you create a chatchannel and someone insults you ... ... and you - instead of blocking, muting and/or kicking him - write a petition instead ... ... then I have to question your mental state. Not really. Take a standard troll who likes to insult others just for the reaction. No matter who the target is. You block him and you're fine with that. The troll however, can continue to harass other players in the same or different channels, endlessly in theory. It even might be that he breaks this part of the Terms Of ServiceTOS wrote:You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: filing support tickets with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or support tickets; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
(added this as it also matches the topic:) You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.) For me, CCP can't evade their responsibility to act in such cases just by removing chat channels provided by the server. Tickets will continue to be filed and CCP will continue to encounter the language barrier. The chat channel where those events occur just no longer are official channels. Nothing gained by CCP in the long term, but the existing communities of those channels that got deleted are left in the cold and have to find ways to reorganize, with the difficulties already repeatedly described in this thread. As said above, the GM team (and by extension CCP) is more than happy to encourage vindictive, abusive reporting of other players through the petition system over asinine little things, rather than deal with actual genuine issues. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
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Don Pera Saissore
14
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Posted - 2014.09.29 03:09:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:With most of these languages having no official support from CCP, this means that investigating and answering tickets of this nature from these channels is sometimes not possible due to a significant language barrier.
Just get someone from that language channel to translate for you, maybe give him some isk for his services
Please don't close my chat channel. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1276
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Posted - 2014.09.29 04:59:00 -
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Make us please an official Napanii channel. |
Huono Onni
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.29 05:57:00 -
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Mist+ñ sitten tulen kysym+ñ+ñn neuvoja? Parempi ett+ñ puhun omalla kielell+ñni Suomi kanavalle, kun se ett+ñ tulen t+ñnne keskustelemaa. |
GardenHose
BoerneOrmene
8
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Posted - 2014.09.29 06:54:00 -
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This is bad decision CCP please dont do it. |
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