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Luna Ironmind
The False Shepards
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Posted - 2014.09.24 19:59:00 -
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Where do all these skill books come from? when they are injected, they are gone forever. Are all skill books available through missions? Or does CCP just create them and sell them in trade hubs? I've never really gotten a clear answer. Vanguards of justice and of freedom, the Gallente Federation shelters all who seek hope where it is difficult to find. |
Fal Shepard
Rubicon Spears
10
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:02:00 -
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This is like the "where do babies come from" question of eve. From the ashes of our defeat, we will be reborn. With these chains with which we are bound, we will become indivisible. To those who believe they can control us, we declare defiance. For the flames that burn our cities, we will douse in injustice's blood. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
661
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:10:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Where do all these skill books come from? when they are injected, they are gone forever. Are all skill books available through missions? Or does CCP just create them and sell them in trade hubs? I've never really gotten a clear answer.
Skillbooks are sold by NPC sell orders so they are created by CCP but usually not in trade hubs. If you see the sell order has a 365 day duration it is an NPC order, anything else it is a player that has bought a bunch and is selling them for profit.
Some missions can drop skillbooks, and some are only available through exploration (the two advanced drug ones if memory serves is exploration loot only) and then a few skillbooks come from LP stores (such as drone and weapon spec) |
Luna Ironmind
The False Shepards
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:23:00 -
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Are more expensive skills such as those involving capital ships available through missioning and/or LP? Vanguards of justice and of freedom, the Gallente Federation shelters all who seek hope where it is difficult to find. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5147
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:36:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Are more expensive skills such as those involving capital ships available through missioning and/or LP? By the time you are in a position to inject those skills you will be in a position to buy them.
You are too new to be worrying about capital ships, I've been playing s since 2013.05.15 and I don't have any trained . =]I[= |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4518
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:37:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Where do all these skill books come from? when they are injected, they are gone forever. Are all skill books available through missions? Or does CCP just create them and sell them in trade hubs? I've never really gotten a clear answer.
1. Skillbooks are seeded on the market in "School" stations (so check market and you should see where they sell for your region).
2. Once injected, you can add them to your training queue when ever you like (See it as reading a manual, you read it, which means you have the knowledge ready when needed).
3. Skillbooks can also be resold by other players in trade hubs (for people too lazy to go to any of the seeding stations), at a higher price of course as they want to make some profit. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
662
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:38:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Are more expensive skills such as those involving capital ships available through missioning and/or LP?
not as far as I know. But as said when you get to that stage the 500 mill for the skillbook isnt a big deal anymore.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4518
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:39:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Are more expensive skills such as those involving capital ships available through missioning and/or LP?
Lol for wanting to know that.
It's like getting to pick up your first driver's license and asking where the Ferrarri dealership is located.
By the time you are ready for capitals (or any of the other bigger ships) you will know how to get those skillbooks. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
1470
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Posted - 2014.09.24 20:50:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Are more expensive skills such as those involving capital ships available through missioning and/or LP?
No, just from the market.
But compared to a capital ship, which is 1.5-2.5 billion for the ship, excluding all modules (carrier/dread), the skill books aren't exactly expensive, and you only ever need one of each book for a character. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4165
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Posted - 2014.09.24 21:34:00 -
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My last spew on the topic: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5037149#post5037149 |
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
6166
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Posted - 2014.09.24 21:44:00 -
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Fal Shepard wrote:This is like the "where do babies come from" question of eve. Well... you see dear... when a mommy capsuleer and a daddy capsuleer love each other very much they take leftover organic matter from their latest cloning and put it into a vat filled with implants. They then toss a couple of virgin neckbeards into the vat, dump in liberal amounts of quafe, and proceed to have tantric sex that may or may not involve swapping bodies a couple of times. After that has been completed, electrodes are stuck into the now ballooning mass of flesh in the vat and streams of data are downloaded into it via uplink from the parents. Growth hormones are applied and within 9 months, a new capsuleer is fully formed and ready to go!
Ayd leftover flesh still in the vat is usually filled with still useful data so that it all packaged up and sold as skillbooks!
On-topic:
- you can buy skillooks from NPC stations (from NPCs) or at market hubs from players (who have bought and shipped the skillbooks from NPCs).
- some LP stores have "specialty" skillbooks for sale... but generally speaking they won't help you beyond some very specific things. It is usually more efficient to build up an income and buy the skillbooks directly. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
369
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Posted - 2014.09.24 21:53:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:virgin neckbeards .
BEEP! Redundancy in the statement.
Pam:-á I wonder what my name means in Welsh?Nessa: Why? |
Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.09.24 21:53:00 -
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Lady Naween wrote:Luna Ironmind wrote:Where do all these skill books come from? when they are injected, they are gone forever. Are all skill books available through missions? Or does CCP just create them and sell them in trade hubs? I've never really gotten a clear answer. Skillbooks are sold by NPC sell orders so they are created by CCP but usually not in trade hubs. If you see the sell order has a 365 day duration it is an NPC order, anything else it is a player that has bought a bunch and is selling them for profit. Just to add a bit of additional info to this, NPC sell orders won't always be at 365 days. Each time an item is purchased from them, the clock on their orders is reset to 365 days, but if a particular NPC order hasn't been bought in 30 days, the clock will have ticked down to 335 days.
Player orders cannot go above 90 days, so if you see an order that is above the 90-day mark, it's an NPC order. Most NPC orders tend to be in the 300-day-range, but you can see some in the more remote parts of the game that are in the 200's and, in a few instances, even the 100's (these are extremely rare, though; I think the only 100-200 NPC order I ever saw was something out in Solitude lowsec). |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
670
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Posted - 2014.09.24 22:58:00 -
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true good catch i forgot about that for some odd reason |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
638
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Posted - 2014.09.25 04:09:00 -
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sometimes hubs have skills for cheap as I looted some from killing other players with skillbooks in their cargo
also as said some specialization skills can be bought with LP, and these will usually sell for less than NPC sell price, the drone spec skills are all around 2.5-3mil isk because they sell for 3k lp each. where the NPC sell price is 9mil for each one. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Areen Sassel
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:34:00 -
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Luna Ironmind wrote:Where do all these skill books come from? when they are injected, they are gone forever. Are all skill books available through missions? Or does CCP just create them and sell them in trade hubs? I've never really gotten a clear answer.
Besides the other answers, a very few skillbooks (eg "Gallente Encryption Methods") are exploration drops. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1394
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:15:00 -
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Areen Sassel wrote:Luna Ironmind wrote:Where do all these skill books come from? when they are injected, they are gone forever. Are all skill books available through missions? Or does CCP just create them and sell them in trade hubs? I've never really gotten a clear answer. Besides the other answers, a very few skillbooks (eg "Gallente Encryption Methods") are exploration drops. ^ This is important to note.
Some (most) skillbooks are sold on the market at school stations by the NPC corps.
Some are sold through the LP stores (weapon specializations, some of the agent connections skills).
Some are drops from exploration sites (a variety of science skills as above, some of the booster-related skills).
Some skillbooks are only found through one of these methods, and some are available through several. It depends on the book - some of the exploration ones are only found that way and are very rare and expensive as a result. Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
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