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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:33:00 -
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+1 When can we expect this to appear in game?
I spend a lot of my game time helping new players the vast majority of them who move on to PvP portions of the game and I see this as a marvelous tool that I can add to the training tool box. A place where newer players can take the skills we teach and apply them in a situation where they would know for sure that they lost because of poor piloting skills, poor tactics, poor fitting skills, or poor judgement.
Yes I know these arenas would not represent the real world of PvP in game. And yet the idea of going 1 on 1 in a controlled environment of reasonably equality and free from any outside influences like off grid boosters seems to have struck a cord with many from the PvP community.
Since this would be an optional thing, something each player has to choose to participate in I simply cannot see how it would be bad for the game.
Last thought, EvE is supposed to be about player driven content. I can see many ways that this idea could help drive even more player driven content and I see no way that it would reduce player driven content. |
Kat Ayclism
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
293
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:33:00 -
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Also wow, some of you are freaking illiterates. Nowhere does it say it'll be implemented on TQ. Nowhere is it even mentioned as anything but a cool DUALITY toy that could possibly SIMPLIFY TOURNAMENTS and practices.
As in- it's largely an inhouse tool that Veritas (who is leaving CCP) is leaving to be expanded on so we maybe don't have the cringefest of bad and delays that were seen during the AT.
STFU and read the damn post with your brain turned on before you go spouting off this moronic whining about "killin muh peeveepees." It's not coming to your ******* pvp, it's not coming to your ******* TQ, shut up. |
Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
988
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:36:00 -
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Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters? Lieutenant Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
I post on my main... shocking I know! |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8304
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:36:00 -
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Kat Ayclism wrote:Also wow, some of you are freaking illiterates. Nowhere does it say it'll be implemented on TQ. Nowhere is it even mentioned as anything but a cool DUALITY toy that could possibly SIMPLIFY TOURNAMENTS and practices.
As in- it's largely an inhouse tool that Veritas (who is leaving CCP) is leaving to be expanded on so we maybe don't have the cringefest of bad and delays that were seen during the AT.
STFU and read the damn post with your brain turned on before you go spouting off this moronic whining about "killin muh peeveepees." It's not coming to your ******* pvp, it's not coming to your ******* TQ, shut up.
It if stays on Duality I have no objection.
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
90
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:39:00 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Good things about EVE:
+ open world, unstructured full loot PVP
Bad things about EVE:
- all the rest
This prototype violates the core of the game. It would seriously be better to instance hisec missions than develop this any further.
Good things about EVE:
- fights have consequences (aka "losses")
Bad things about EVE:
- forum whiners (aka "there's only one playstyle and that's how I play!oneeleven!")
I don't see dojos breaking "has consequences"-rule. If I understand it correctly, the ships/mods used within a dojo will be destroyed for real. EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager. |
Kristoffon Ellecon
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
120
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:45:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Precision Zero wrote:Where is the dislike button? I think it starts to display once you've actually tried the feature it doesn't matter how good dojos are, it really shouldn't be in eve to begin with. the premise is dislikable and no amount of "awesome features" will change that, i'd wager. note: this is sort of the opposite of burner missions, good premise with poor implimentation. this is a poor premise that's probably going to be introduced well... the irony. I disagree with you and I insist everyone be forced to use this feature whether they like it or not! |
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
2074
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:46:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
It if stays on Duality I have no objection.
Not empty quoting.
However we also have a company that equates SoonGäó to NeverGäó and often times blatantly ignore things until they come to a head like....Somer's RMT, Incarna, TOS/EULA clarification....or game mechanics like drones that have to be uber-abused to receive a fix.
So getting a little jittery at the thought of instancing in EvE is understandable.
In our little sandbox, we are the "instances." Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Le Monkey Face
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
0
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:47:00 -
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YES YES YES CCP THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, don't listen to the edgy "muh non-consensual pvp" posters, they are a minority; the AT proved that there is a place for esport and competitive pvp in EVE
I know a lot of school friends that tried eve and got bored to roam to either get gatecamped, blobbed , etc it takes a lot of time to find "good fights" especially when you're a new player you have to follow the boring blob or get destroyed, that's why player retention is so low.
This could bring a lot of new players to eve, and remember that eve is a sandbox there is no "one way only" to play.
Great idea CCP this could revitalize eve. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
560
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:50:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:...PvP Matchmaking...
Thank you Veritas, a solid +1 for this concept.
A lot of folk, like me, simply dont have the time or desire to spend hours looking for pew, only to get blobbed in the end.
Cant wait for you to deploy this to live so I can get my pew fix easily. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13286
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:50:00 -
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So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
560
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:52:00 -
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dexington wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:Have you ever wanted a little pewpew but didnGÇÖt have the time to find a fight, or even fit a ship? is this really the crowd you think should be rewarded?, do you really think sugar coated bullshit pvp is going to add anything to the sandbox?
screw the sandbox, its going to add to CCP financial statement.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4757
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:52:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:There's something inherently novel about submitting prototype code on a design that's quite clearly going to be controversial, and then go post about it here to create a bit of forum drama, on your second last day at CCP. Scorched Earth all the way!
Man I'm going to miss you and your Cowboy ways.
The real question is, what will he announce tomorrow? CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13286
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:53:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:dexington wrote:CCP Veritas wrote:Have you ever wanted a little pewpew but didnGÇÖt have the time to find a fight, or even fit a ship? is this really the crowd you think should be rewarded?, do you really think sugar coated bullshit pvp is going to add anything to the sandbox? screw the sandbox, its going to add to CCP financial statement.
No it won't. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Bamboozlement
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:54:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to.
Nice logical fallacy, just like people don't run sites in lowsec because they can run them in high sec right? Rofl, nice tears. |
Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
69
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:54:00 -
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Awesome initiative.
Personally I feel that if this was developed and expanded upon in a good way it would be a strong reason towards reactivating in the game. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
Guardians of the Morrigan
66
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
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Turelus wrote:Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters?
this is actually a good question but mostly because i would like to have a carrier or a dread brawl with a few of my friends |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
600
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
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mynnna wrote: Oooooooh SNAP
Anyone opposed to this is pretty much dumb, sorry. This is the most eve-like implementation of "structured fights" that you can possibly get, and it's awesome. There's simply no room for any other opinion.
no its not awesome and nothing about it is "eve-like". if it was "eve-like" i could scan out the combatants and warp to them.
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
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Turelus wrote:Can I place a carrier in this unscanable/warpable pocket then just not PVP and assign fighters?
Yes, for the entire 5 minutes. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13286
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:56:00 -
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Bamboozlement wrote:baltec1 wrote:So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to. Nice logical fallacy, just like people don't run sites in lowsec because they can run them in high sec right? Rofl, nice tears.
I have had this move pulled on me before and it was disastrous to that game. I do not want the same to happen here. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2771
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:57:00 -
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First safe bubble of e-honor, next magic bullets and opt-in pvp switch. Invalid signature format |
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4757
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:57:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Edward Olmops wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: This do not matter. The possibility of non-consensual pvp ANYTIME in any space in new eden is a CORE principle. This idea violates that core principle.
I have perfectly no idea what is your point. Do you want a lifetime guarantee that you may gank/hotdrop anything anywhere ? Seriously, I don't get it. Especially, because with those Dojos you actually could get the fight anytime... instead of posting in a forum about how hard it is to get fights?!?! I'm a pve player, I don't care about fights. I care about the 'spirit' of this game I've played for the last 7 going on 8 years. This idea violates a core principle, it does no harm or potential harm to me as an EVE player what-so-ever.
Please tell me how you can pvp my jita trade alt. Also, please pvp my main who is currently logged out.
Then you can come back and talk to me about your made up CORE principles. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2771
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:00:00 -
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Two step wrote:Please tell me how you can pvp my jita trade alt. Also, please pvp my main who is currently logged out.
Then you can come back and talk to me about your made up CORE principles.
Ability to stab your trading alt in his/her face in his/her CQ would be like best addition ever. Invalid signature format |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8309
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:01:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So long as it stays on the test server I don't mind. Keep it off tranq though, arenas always kill PvP outside of them in every game they are added to.
This is the lesson to be learned here.
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Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
196
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:01:00 -
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Varesk wrote: no its not awesome and nothing about it is "eve-like". if it was "eve-like" i could scan out the combatants and warp to them.
It has to be eve-like, because even mentioning it instantly creates huge drama and a sizeable threadnought.
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Bamboozlement
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:01:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: I have had this move pulled on me before and it was disastrous to that game. I do not want the same to happen here.
Nice appeal to emotion and logical fallacy, you are obviously biased because your corporation is into "non-consensual" pvp.
You forgot that people that go/live in null or in the fw warzone won't magically disappear but having to roam for hours to find good fights is terrible for the game it lowers the player retention and give them no short term objectives, people "poaching" them to brave newbies and rvb doesn't help.
This is a sandbox, your way to play is not the only way to play deal with it and adapt brobro. |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
602
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:04:00 -
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Bamboozlement wrote:
This is a sandbox, your way to play is not the only way to play deal with it and adapt brobro.
adding instances is not a sandbox, that is a theme park. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8309
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:04:00 -
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Two step wrote:
Please tell me how you can pvp my jita trade alt.
When ti trades
Quote: Also, please pvp my main who is currently logged out.
When it logs on
Quote:Then you can come back and talk to me about your made up CORE principles.
So you are saying that you (a former CSM member) do not believe that non-consensual pvp (and the risk thereof) IN SPACE is a core principle. That's what we are talking about here. Ships IN SPACE in New Eden that (for 5 minutes) can't be scanned down and pvp'd.
This is basically instancing, it violates a core principle of EVE (in the EXACT same way that non-scannable Tech3 ships did) and therefore should not happen. Make ships in the pocket HARD to scan (like Tech3s are now) and I have no objection.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13291
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:08:00 -
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Bamboozlement wrote:baltec1 wrote: I have had this move pulled on me before and it was disastrous to that game. I do not want the same to happen here.
Nice appeal to emotion and logical fallacy, you are obviously biased because your corporation is into "non-consensual" pvp. You forgot that people that go/live in null or in the fw warzone won't magically disappear but having to roam for hours to find good fights is terrible for the game it lowers the player retention and give them no short term objectives, people "poaching" them to brave newbies and rvb doesn't help. This is a sandbox, your way to play is not the only way to play deal with it and adapt brobro.
In every single game that has added arenas the PvP in all other areas was sucked into them. The more more that join the arenas the fewer targets there are to hunt so more people join the arenas and we end up with a runaway effect untill we have everyone in arenas. This has happened in every single game that has added them and will happen in this one too. FW will die, RvB will die and null will also be impacted.
This is a terrible thing to have on Tranq and always will be. This thing is as Un-EVE as it gets and is utterly incompatible with EVE core gameplay. It will not add more players to the game and the same people who get bored with hunting for targets will get bored with arenas after the same length of time. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Masao Kurata
Z List
80
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:08:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Make ships in the pocket HARD (as all hell) to scan (like Tech3s are now) and I have no objection.
That's not even necessary, all you have to do is deploy a scan inhibitor so that people won't know they're warping to a silly play fight. |
S'No Flake
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
41
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:11:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Bamboozlement wrote:
This is a sandbox, your way to play is not the only way to play deal with it and adapt brobro.
adding instances is not a sandbox, that is a theme park.
And adding flying carpets to WoW makes it a sandbox |
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