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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5488
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:32:00 -
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The Great Karnak Predicts another one of those threads.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
627
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:51:00 -
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007Jumper wrote:Everything should have a pro and a con to it right?
Pro = AFK cloaker making you cry and post on the forums. Con = you posting on the forums.
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1428
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:52:00 -
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Oh oh, I have this, am I relevant again yet?
o/ Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
183
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:55:00 -
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If i was the cloaky afk player I would petition the OP for harrrasment. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4558
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:58:00 -
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007Jumper wrote:Hey Everyone,
Was wondering if anyone else had views on a counter against perm cloaking players. Would be nice to see some type of counter against this, maybe a new set of scanning skills with some unique probes ? or add a timer on the cloak, for example you set cloaked in a system for "X" amount of time than the cloak mod itself starts to take heat damage for being online for to long and after a point it burns out and decloaks your ship and you would have to go repair it like any other mod. Everything else has a counter and i think cloaks need something to act against them and would also make it harder for people to grief in lowsec/nullsec/sov.
Any thoughts ?
o7
Aah renter whining about cloaky camping.
Thread number 304.391.296 about this.
AFK cloakers are harmless, they arent at their keyboard. Or you just move a system and dont give a flying **** about them Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4558
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Posted - 2014.09.26 22:59:00 -
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double post. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Marcel Brinalle
Deadspace Coalition
28
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:11:00 -
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And I'm a fairly new player. And I already have enough of this "counter the cloaking" threads. Geez.. really.
Get yourself a cloaky boat and go camp your guest's system. |
Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Upholders
1065
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:15:00 -
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Have a party. It's StirFriday after all. |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:24:00 -
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Cloaking is fine. Nerf the OP. A bitter vet trying to start anew. |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
757
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:26:00 -
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This thread is now about afk twerking.
Is this a problem? Is it griefing? Is it . . . the most amazing idea ever?
Inquiring minds want to know. I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
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AFK Cloaker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
113
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:28:00 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:29:00 -
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Glathull wrote:This thread is now about afk twerking.
Is this a problem? Is it griefing? Is it . . . the most amazing idea ever?
Inquiring minds want to know.
AFK Twerking is a war crime. A bitter vet trying to start anew. |
Django Askulf
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
62
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:52:00 -
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Hello OP,
It has come to my attention, that you dislike someone cloaking in one of your systems. I suspect you pay rent, so you may not be against paying people for services.
For a small fee of 500m a week, I will come AFK cloak, the AFK cloaker in your system. Just Evemail me with the details of where you reside, and we can then move forward with the payment, and services. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5243
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Posted - 2014.09.27 00:19:00 -
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Glathull wrote:This thread is now about afk twerking.
Is this a problem? Is it griefing? Is it . . . the most amazing idea ever?
Inquiring minds want to know. well we just don't know, ccp wouldn't give us a clear line on the matter. =]I[= |
Josef Djugashvilis
2540
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Posted - 2014.09.27 00:27:00 -
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[quote=007Jumper]yea its a question thats been said a million times... but yet that needs an answer why CCP wont simply add something to find them or limits on how long they can have the cloak online, simply add a high cap drain would do it but yea besides talking down to someone just asking a question, why not be supportive. Maybe you'll have a question one day just like me and respect good answers not bs ones. Everything should have a pro and a con to it right? [/quote
The pro of a cloaked ship is that can scare the bejasus out of you.
The con is that a cloaked ship can do you no harm.
I hope this answers your question. This is not a signature. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
690
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Posted - 2014.09.27 00:48:00 -
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*goes to run locator agent and to send an afk cloaker there* |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
757
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Posted - 2014.09.27 00:58:00 -
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Just fyi, I'm not always AFK when I'm twerking. I got to work super early this morning because some stuff broke in the middle of the night. So there I am at 5:30 am; no one there but me. I've got my headphones on jamming to some Brahms, banging out some test code to find out what's wrong, just twerkin like there's no tomorrow.
Suddenly, I was not the only one at work anymore.
I have it on good authority from many sources that twerking--even at keyboard is definitely griefing.
CCP needs to act now. I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
150
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:09:00 -
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You can't bait someone who isn't there. You can't bore someone who isn't there. You can't ignore someone who is there. You can't move if someone has multiple alts because it wont matter anyways.
In all honesty it's probably someone just playing eve on another account, and that account you see is another window he peeks into every few minutes to see if you are on dscan or not.
So honestly, not a damn thing you can do about it. So go ahead ignore him and be dead within minutes, or bait him and never see the guy... ever. (also a chance you lose your entire fleet to PL).
Cuz... They ARE harmless. It's even better when the cloaky alt is a different character every 2 hours or so. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6550
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:10:00 -
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This is what you are afraid of.
/be very afraid.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5601
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:13:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:You can't bait someone who isn't there.
You can't be hurt by someone who isn't there.
Quote:You can't bore someone who isn't there.
You can't be bothered by someone who isn't there.
Quote:You can't ignore someone who is there.
But you just said he wasn't there.
Quote:You can't move if someone has alts because it wont matter anyways.
How does someone's possession of alts affect your movement? Anyway, if someone has more accounts than your alliance and their blues have systems, you've got bigger problems. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
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Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
150
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:17:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:You can't bait someone who isn't there. You can't be hurt by someone who isn't there. Quote:You can't bore someone who isn't there. You can't be bothered by someone who isn't there. Quote:You can't ignore someone who is there. But you just said he wasn't there. Quote:You can't move if someone has alts because it wont matter anyways. How does someone's possession of alts affect your movement? Anyway, if someone has more accounts than your alliance and their blues have systems, you've got bigger problems.
He can post a cloaky alt in all the systems he knows you live in, and he can be there and not be there all at the same time.
Like I already said, hes probably just playing eve on another account. Taking a peek at his cloaky every now and then to check d-scan for targets.
You can ignore the people in system if they are combat ready "So for anyone else you aren't even there" The person is doing a complex "Well now you are DEFINATELY there" HOTDROPOCLOCK
All he has to do is be patient, as I am sure he isn't bothered to ignore you until you realize he isn't even there and so he isn't bothering anything and is harmless. Then of course you lose your stuff.
Cloakies just play the game on another account while you rage, then you die when you ignore them. Simple. Move to another system? Also simple, even easier to have another alt cloaked there as well. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc.
343
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:34:00 -
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lol NA. |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5601
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:51:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:He can post a cloaky alt in all the systems he knows you live in, and he can be there and not be there all at the same time.
Either P can be true, or ~P can be true, not both.
Quote:Like I already said, hes probably just playing eve on another account. Taking a peek at his cloaky every now and then to check d-scan for targets.
So he's there, and thus not "not there", so you can bait, bore, etc him.
Quote:You can ignore the people in system if they are combat ready "So for anyone else you aren't even there" The person is doing a complex "Well now you are DEFINATELY there" HOTDROPOCLOCK
Tom Lehrer has some advice for you. He's in a Stealth Bomber or has a 5s locking delay or can't warp cloaked. Stealth Bombers are made of wet tissue paper. Anything else, you can just warp away. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
759
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:05:00 -
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Thread needs more afk twerking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rba9Z0CcWwQ I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16922
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:40:00 -
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OMG A AFK CLOAKING THREAD I CANT BELIEVE ITS AN AFK CLOAKING THREAD I HAVENT SEEN ONE OF THESE AFK CLOAKING THREADS IN LIKE A WEEK AND WAS AFRAID THAT ID NEVER SEE ONE AGAIN AND THAT THE AFK CLOAKING THREAD CRAZE WAS OVER but then they announced the cloaking visual effect changes and people were probably like OMG THIS WILL BE A BUFF TO AFK CLOAKING AND I SHOULD TOTALLY MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT BECASUE PEIOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT AFK CLOAKING IS WRONG AND STUFF ANF THINGS FOR PETS but I totally digress because OMG ITS AN AFK CLOAKING THREAD I TOTALLY HAVENT SEEN ONE OF THESE IN LIKE A WEEK AND I WAS TOTALLY WORRIED THAT WED NEVER SEE ANOTHER ONE AGAIN AND THE CRAZE WAS OVER FINALLY but then they announced the cloaking visual effect changes so people were all like AFK CLOAKING IS WRONG FOR REASONS AND I WILL TELL YOU THOSE REASONS AND WHY ITS BAD BECASUE IF WE NEEDED ANYTHING IT WAS ANOTHER AFK CLOAKING THREAD!!!!! Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
760
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Posted - 2014.09.27 02:55:00 -
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I'm going to accept that as the verbal equivalent of AFK twerking. I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
150
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Posted - 2014.09.27 03:38:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:
Either P can be true, or ~P can be true, not both.
It's an illusion, to you he's never there until your ship is being blown up, but he could be on at any time so you never know. Therefor it's both.
RubyPorto wrote:
So he's there, and thus not "not there", so you can bait, bore, etc him.
Boring the person only works if they are sitting there for hours on end, but like I said, another alt on another screen they can check whenever, so you are likely to go mad trying to bore the guy.
Baiting only results in nothing ever happening and instead boring both you and your corp members until people screw off and he finds it opportune to pick someone off, or 30 pl dreads dropped on your face and everything dying.
RubyPorto wrote:
He's in a Stealth Bomber or has a 5s locking delay or can't warp cloaked. Stealth Bombers are made of wet tissue paper. Anything else, you can just warp away.
This is probably the only disadvantage you have, but I'm not sure he would put himself in that spot if he wasn't able to grab you.. Like a large gunned battleship that can't warp away or kill it in time.
I myself just ratted in an algos while in null.
The problem is the afk cloaker "always" wins. Either hes bothered you enough to stop doing things, move, or waste resources for nothing that comes, or you don't and lose something anyways.
Nerf local maybe? I dunno. There is no fix but to "fix" cloaking, and that isn't the answer.
Murphies law, anything bad that can happen will happen. This is EVE. It can and most always WILL happen to whoever the victim happens to be. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Ashlar Maidstone
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
121
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Posted - 2014.09.27 04:10:00 -
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Pilot 007Jumper, while you think by asking a redundant question about AFK Cloakers, this topic has been over and over again been beaten by a dead horse that by using the search bar you MIGHT get an answer to your question. I for one am a AFK Cloaky and I do NOT ruin anyone else's gameplay. I admit I don't AFK cloak very often but when I do I have a reason for dong so, and nothing is gonna stop me from doing so in the future.
This topic has been discussed beyond it's life time and I wished people would just move on and be done with it, there's nothing or any amount of begging from anyone to CCP to make whatever changes to a mechanic of game play that's been around for so long it's a normal part of game play.
I have read this very topic for so long and the arguments are such it's no longer a valid discussion and no amount of pleading or begging is gonna change it. |
Lady Areola Fappington
2265
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Posted - 2014.09.27 04:38:00 -
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I heard this was the twerking thread, so I just wanted to share.
Twerk it baby It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5602
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Posted - 2014.09.27 04:41:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:It's an illusion, to you he's never there until your ship is being blown up, but he could be on at any time so you never know. Therefor it's both.
Wrong. Just because you don't know which is true does not imply that both P and ~P are true at the same time. This is not Erwin's silly feline box.
Quote:Boring the person only works if they are sitting there for hours on end, but like I said, another alt on another screen they can check whenever, so you are likely to go mad trying to bore the guy.
Baiting only results in nothing ever happening and instead boring both you and your corp members until people screw off and he finds it opportune to pick someone off, or 30 pl dreads dropped on your face and everything dying.
You're trying to kill an un-cloaked, 0 speed stealth bomber, and you think you'll lose?
Quote: This is probably the only disadvantage you have, but I'm not sure he would put himself in that spot if he wasn't able to grab you.. Like a large gunned battleship that can't warp away or kill it in time.
I myself just ratted in an algos while in null.
The problem is the afk cloaker "always" wins. Either hes bothered you enough to stop doing things, move, or waste resources for nothing that comes, or you don't and lose something anyways.
It's a Stealth Bomber. It's made of wet tissue paper and just zeroed its speed for your convenience.
The AFK cloaker only wins what you give him. He's AFK by definition, so your irrational response of stopping all your activity is the only thing that can hurt you. If he's ATK, then he's not an AFK cloaker (again, by definition).
Quote:I'm starting to think alts are the problem now... They break everything else, like 40 thrashers with 1 controller.
Sweet, this is now also a Suicide Gank whinge thread. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
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