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Khalm Hasal
79
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Posted - 2014.09.30 03:17:00 -
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I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in. |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2014.09.30 05:42:00 -
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Khalm Hasal wrote:I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in.
Let's start with our ships first. Our ship is crewed, and yet the crew is very poorly represented. You would think that someone who keeps dying in our bullshite fights would get much more recognition. I think they deserve more recognition.
Next, colonies. How many capsuleers here know what exactly went on in the colonies we established beyond what is being produced? I think we need to build awareness on that.
And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1277
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Posted - 2014.09.30 05:50:00 -
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Khalm Hasal wrote:I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in. For the sake of everyone alive, and everyone who will live after us...
The Federation must be destroyed. |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
469
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Posted - 2014.09.30 07:43:00 -
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Capsuleers?
Fickle as a feather. I really don't see the point of including them into any grander motions of schemes; even something as wide as 'development of the cluster'. The nullsec capsuleer groups will probably keep their little bickering ad infinitum, and any development they can bring to the cluster is pretty self-centered to start with.
As for the wider scheme of development of things in the next few years or decades:
Intaki Syndicate claims the currently occupied warzone of Placid from the now weakened Federation. Angel Cartel does the same with Molden Heath. Region of Solitude establishes its own government and detaches from the Federation. Ammatar Mandate continues to desiccate under Ardishapurite rule.
Just a few I could think of in a short moments notice.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
164
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Posted - 2014.09.30 09:32:00 -
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Depends if it's short-term or long-term.
Short-term, the independent capsuleer entities continue to grow and inevitably begin to fully expand into the imperial territory, at first through the exploits in the CONCORD and baseliner regulations. The empires - openly or not - embrace the new technology, with most of the ruling elite and core of the armed forces becoming "immortal" infomorphs, as opposed to the isolated cases of today.
Then, it would be wise to expect the new and improved infomorph empires with their new navies to attempt to crush the major independent capsuleer blocs and scatter or subdue the rest. At first, it might seem that the Aria Jenneth's scenario takes place; but by that point, the difference between the Amarr Empire and, say, Goonswarm would be only in ideology, numbers and organization. Loyalist structures like PIE or (sadly, defunct) EM will be included into the new order of highsec ( *snicker* ), losing their imaginary "free roaming demigod" status and becoming common paramilitaries on a tight leash. There'll be mass clone arrests and terminations in imperial stations, etc.
What remains of the capsuleer blocs becomes fully independent from the "old world", establishing full-scale planetary and stargate infrastructire and essentially, becoming empires themselves. Many will scatter through the wormholes and uncharted space beynd New Eden. The billions and billions of common planetside dwellers would never turn into infomorhs, of course.
When I look at the things long-term (intelligence and memory implants are really a fascinating thing), the danger of the infomorph or quasi-infomorph singularity becomes apparent. Sansha Nation, Sleepers and Rogue Drones are not just mindless things to shoot at: they are a glimpse into our own future. The Nation has failed, but there'll be other, more subtle projects and emergent entities, and, if humanity won't be destroyed before, sooner or later one of them will succeed. The spread of nanite-based technologies is especially dangerous in that regard - and I must note, that nanites are already used by both rogue drones and sansha to infect and assimilate human hosts.
That final singularity, that cluster-spanning, million-year old nanite cloud Overmind beyond our comprehension (and also beyond anything what we would call sanity) and a few remaining cavemen with sticks and stones down dirtside - that's probably what awaits us beyond history.
Perhaps, some day some of those cavemen will start it all again... Amarrian God anyone..? Hehehe.
But who cares. |
Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
366
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Posted - 2014.09.30 11:04:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote: And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.
No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak.
This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor PlotGäó GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2014.09.30 11:33:00 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.
No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak. This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor PlotGäó
Coffeehouses that serve a decent cup of coffee is everywhere in Federation space. It should also be noted that the owners of these coffeehouses are frequently Matari (any bloodline). |
Claudia Osyn
The Scope Gallente Federation
962
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:58:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Khalm Hasal wrote:I have a twofold question for participants in The Intergalactic Summit. What do you see as the broad trends for the likely future of the cluster and what do you wish that development were to be? Whether you choose to respond concerning development as it directly relates to capsuleers or from a different perspective is entirely up to you. Or perhaps you do not think the particulars of changing trends is important and you have other underlying emphasis from which you are situated. It is your perspective I am most interested in. For the sake of everyone alive, and everyone who will live after us... The Federation must be destroyed. Ah, Kimmy, always good for a joke...
On a more serious note, I see more of the same. Sure we will get a few superficial changes here and there, and maby there will come a day when I can walk out the door of my quarters instead of having to crawl out through an air duct. But capsuleers will still shoot at each other, miners will continue to whine about having to tank their vessels, and goods will continue to be produced. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Raphael Ordo
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
102
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Posted - 2014.10.01 07:42:00 -
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In the best of worlds, capsuleers that have learned the truth of our late Emperor Heideran VII and the legacy he left in this world, the Pax Amarria, will continue to spread its word of a future peace throughout the cluster. More and more will come to understand its significance and how His word can be established in all our societies. The golden words is bound to spread.
Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that the rumoured and future upgrades to the Templar implants, that once made our ground forces immortal, will prove to add a whole other spectrum to what we know and how we view the on-going wars in the cluster today. As capsuleers, we regard ourselves as the culmination of mankind. I believe this will change in many ways as the years pave the way forward. |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2014.10.01 07:55:00 -
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Raphael Ordo wrote:In the best of worlds, capsuleers that have learned the truth of our late Emperor Heideran VII and the legacy he left in this world, the Pax Amarria, will continue to spread its word of a future peace throughout the cluster. More and more will come to understand its significance and how His word can be established in all our societies. The golden words is bound to spread.
Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that the rumoured and future upgrades to the Templar implants, that once made our ground forces immortal, will prove to add a whole other spectrum to what we know and how we view the on-going wars in the cluster today. As capsuleers, we regard ourselves as the culmination of mankind. I believe this will change in many ways as the years pave the way forward.
Speaking of the Pax Amarria, I occasionally retrieve a copy or two from wrecks floating about in deep space. However, for some odd reason, I was not really able to read the copies. Just flipping the hardcover was impossible. What's up with that? |
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Ottom Ephesianos
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
35
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Posted - 2014.10.01 08:29:00 -
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::Captain Ephesianos looks over the random feed delivered via Henry's algorithmic social media engineer::
"Henry?" 00Yes00 "Draw up Chauncy's homework." Ottom asked, gravspurs on the stealth Hounds consol. 00Social...?00 "Social Paradigms and Low Survivability Rates." The Black Op. Battleship Specialist stood to pace the short deck. "I'll take it through my new implants."
...local WiFi...feed...connected...request 00Desired Outcome00
'Chauncy's abridged views on ship efficiency and crew management.' Ottom mentally focused to the constructed intelligence. A White Noise Stetzerizer filtered his subconscious chatter.
...results...every crew member should carry a shipboard card and a origin I.D.. Souls should be calibrated to station control and then turned off as to avoid interference during docked combat. If the pods are to be used they do not need to be in the mid slot of the consol just attached to biometric readers so the new bio gel deck sealant pushes the crew as opposed to securing them during maneuvers. Fighter pilots must log into their own gunnery accounts and strafing keys override A.I. controls while locked on...searching...
'end program'
00interested?00
"Space drama. Delete it." Ottom sat back down as the hum of the cloaking field continuously stabilized. Other than that it was a silent night. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1282
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Posted - 2014.10.01 15:21:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Raphael Ordo wrote:In the best of worlds, capsuleers that have learned the truth of our late Emperor Heideran VII and the legacy he left in this world, the Pax Amarria, will continue to spread its word of a future peace throughout the cluster. More and more will come to understand its significance and how His word can be established in all our societies. The golden words is bound to spread.
Furthermore, I thoroughly believe that the rumoured and future upgrades to the Templar implants, that once made our ground forces immortal, will prove to add a whole other spectrum to what we know and how we view the on-going wars in the cluster today. As capsuleers, we regard ourselves as the culmination of mankind. I believe this will change in many ways as the years pave the way forward. Speaking of the Pax Amarria, I occasionally retrieve a copy or two from wrecks floating about in deep space. However, for some odd reason, I was not really able to read the copies. Just flipping the hardcover was impossible. What's up with that? I would recommend to buy a new book and open it as it should be, not to try to do this with burnt and melted down slabs. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1283
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Posted - 2014.10.01 15:43:00 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.
No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak. This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor PlotGäó I have no idea what kaf'fak is, minmatar, but I can bet that I can make the best cup of synthetic coffee in the whole damn station.
Besides that, when I was a kid and stayed in the monastery, we did a perfect coffee-like drink from roots of a blue flowers. It had strong and thick taste, had stimulating effect like coffee, was very good for your health and skin, and it was said that even small kids can drink it, unlike coffee.
You see, minmatar, not only you can make coffee. As we say, cross the river before you laugh at the current. |
Ria Nieyli
21367
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Posted - 2014.10.01 16:30:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with giving coffee to children in my experience. It's not ideal, but the positives outweigh the negatives by far. Mirrored eyes |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2014.10.02 01:22:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: And there's also the issue of Jita. There's a 'no-sleep' policy going in public spaces that I thought was nonsensical. It's also a pain in the arse to get any good cup of coffee there. The Caldari do not seem to believe in coffee and coffeeshops. At least the tea is good.
No one but us can make a proper cup of coffee, let alone kaf'fak. This obviously proves our superiority, and may or may not be a component of The Sebiestor PlotGäó I have no idea what kaf'fak is, minmatar, but I can bet that I can make the best cup of synthetic coffee in the whole damn station. Besides that, when I was a kid and stayed in the monastery, we did a perfect coffee-like drink from roots of a blue flowers. It had strong and thick taste, had stimulating effect like coffee, was very good for your health and skin, and it was said that even small kids can drink it, unlike coffee. You see, minmatar, not only you can make coffee. As we say, cross the river before you laugh at the current.
Ah, but our coffee is natural-grown whose source comes from beans that require roasting and grinding. Can you roast and grind like we can? Can you? CAN YOU?
Also, I was 'baptised' with a shot of espresso. I started joining the communal drinking ceremony every morning when I was five. Of course I do not drink espresso any longer. It's more diluted than that but concentration is increased when I grew of age. Who says children can't drink coffee? |
Claudia Osyn
The Scope Gallente Federation
962
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:19:00 -
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We should not fight about coffee, but come together, united, as coffee enthusiasts and bask together in its richness. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:40:00 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:We should not fight about coffee, but come together, united, as coffee enthusiasts and bask together in its richness.
But Kim is not one of us.
Also, I concur. I raise my steaming mug to you. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1286
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:03:00 -
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[quote=Elmund Egivand Ah, but our coffee is natural-grown whose source comes from beans that require roasting and grinding. Can you roast and grind like we can? Can you? CAN YOU? [/quote] Of course I can! Don't question Caldari superiority, minmatar! |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
89
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:26:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: Ah, but our coffee is natural-grown whose source comes from beans that require roasting and grinding. Can you roast and grind like we can? Can you? CAN YOU?
Of course I can! Don't question Caldari superiority, minmatar!
Grind me a sample and send it to me for analysis. |
Tabris Katz
New Moon Harvesters
22
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Posted - 2014.10.02 13:43:00 -
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The condition the coffee industry is little of concern to me. As long as I have tea to steep I am content.
As for the development of the Cluster there is one matter that greatly concerns me as it should concern everyone, capsuleers and non-capsuleers alike. I am refering to Angel Cartel, Blood Raiders, Guristas, Sansha's Nation, Serpentis Corporation, and even the rogue drones! The Angel Cartel continues to flood the empires with illegal and harmful drugs developed by the Serpentis. Guristas have been attacking shipping lanes through out the cluster. Sansha's Nation to this day still launches incursions accross the cluster, capturing inhabitants to integrated into his "Perfect" society. While the Blood Raiders attack anyone they can (mainly focusing on capsuleers) to use in their perverse blood rituals. Even the rogue drones are contiually contructing new hives causing chaos for all those that tread to close.
The Cluster as a whole seems to be barely able to contain all theats presented by these destructive elements. Sansha's incursions have become more aggressive, burner have been destroying all but the strongest and are only growing more daring, we became aware of the ghost sites about a year ago, and all the pirates continue to produce equipment and ships that put any developed by capsuleers or the empires to shame.
I am concerned for all of these things and for much much more. We still don't know what else is out there. What new threats they are planning to unleash upon us, or who else is about imerge as a new threat. |
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Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:37:00 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:The condition the coffee industry is little of concern to me. As long as I have tea to steep I am content.
As for the development of the Cluster there is one matter that greatly concerns me as it should concern everyone, capsuleers and non-capsuleers alike. I am refering to Angel Cartel, Blood Raiders, Guristas, Sansha's Nation, Serpentis Corporation, and even the rogue drones! The Angel Cartel continues to flood the empires with illegal and harmful drugs developed by the Serpentis. Guristas have been attacking shipping lanes through out the cluster. Sansha's Nation to this day still launches incursions accross the cluster, capturing inhabitants to integrated into his "Perfect" society. While the Blood Raiders attack anyone they can (mainly focusing on capsuleers) to use in their perverse blood rituals. Even the rogue drones are contiually contructing new hives causing chaos for all those that tread to close.
The Cluster as a whole seems to be barely able to contain all theats presented by these destructive elements. Sansha's incursions have become more aggressive, burner have been destroying all but the strongest and are only growing more daring, we became aware of the ghost sites about a year ago, and all the pirates continue to produce equipment and ships that put any developed by capsuleers or the empires to shame.
I am concerned for all of these things and for much much more. We still don't know what else is out there. What new threats they are planning to unleash upon us, or who else is about imerge as a new threat.
The existence of Burners and the increased R&D efforts by the pirate factions are threats to the continued existence of the Empires and I hope that the Empires are diverting more attention towards them than each other.
I also believe that the Empires should also step up efforts to expand into previously unexplored space to gather materials to feed their own R&D. Considering that the Angel Cartel and Sansha both scavenge Jovian tech and the Guristas and Mordu's Legion likely also scavenge technology from now-extinct civilisations, it would be foolish if the Empires didn't do the same thing. Moreover, this would also provide opportunities for capsuleers. They can pay us to collect tech for them.
It also baffles me that Concord explicitly discourage capsuleers from plundering Ghost Sites. You would think that it's a better idea to pay us to plunder them and forward to Concord information about whatever the owners were up to, so as to be better informed when deciding how best to proceed with the arms race. Then again, Concord seems to think that users of 'immortal' tech are somehow enemies or threats that need to be contained instead of possible partners and accomplices that would help their efforts, so that shouldn't surprise me. |
Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
268
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:50:00 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:The Angel Cartel continues to flood the empires with illegal and harmful drugs developed by the Serpentis.
Just want to pull you up on an inaccuracy here; these products are not harmful.
To address the topic:
Personally, I would only ever pay heed to a Shaman or Khargai trained in the arts of astral divination when it comes to discussing what the future holds. Everything else is just gossip and amateur speculation. Karynn Denton Caravan Master
Drug-dealing, frigate-fighting, Rifter-rolling Thukkervixen |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
164
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:20:00 -
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Karynn Denton wrote:these products are not Oh really? A slight overdose of the stuff that the Serps sold in our camp could kill a trimevaarwhatwasit... never mind... the intaki cow, and yet, people used it as a currency and cherished it. Why? Because those who *actually* injected that didn't care even for a briefest second if that was harmful or not. Rush was *now*. The rest was *after*.
That's how it really works.
Hehe
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1286
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:39:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote: Grind me a sample and send it to me for analysis.
How about you instead come to my quarters with sample for me to grind, and I will even SHOW you how we Caldari can grind. |
Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:24:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: Grind me a sample and send it to me for analysis.
How about you instead come to my quarters with sample for me to grind, and I will even SHOW you how we Caldari can grind. Young lady, this is not the place to be propositioning men for sex. Take it to a private channel. As bad as the Gallente, I swear.... |
Tabris Katz
New Moon Harvesters
23
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Posted - 2014.10.03 00:05:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:I also believe that the Empires should also step up efforts to expand into previously unexplored space to gather materials to feed their own R&D. Considering that the Angel Cartel and Sansha both scavenge Jovian tech and the Guristas and Mordu's Legion likely also scavenge technology from now-extinct civilisations, it would be foolish if the Empires didn't do the same thing. Moreover, this would also provide opportunities for capsuleers. They can pay us to collect tech for them.
It also baffles me that Concord explicitly discourage capsuleers from plundering Ghost Sites. You would think that it's a better idea to pay us to plunder them and forward to Concord information about whatever the owners were up to, so as to be better informed when deciding how best to proceed with the arms race. Then again, Concord seems to think that users of 'immortal' tech are somehow enemies or threats that need to be contained instead of possible partners and accomplices that would help their efforts, so that shouldn't surprise me.
I agree with you on all your points, the empires should be trying to recover these lost technologies before the pirate factions are able to. With that I know of a source of ancient and highly advanced empires are all willing to pay a high price for, sleeper libraries from wormholes. All sleeper drones drop immense reservoirs of information upon their destruction. I know that all the empires are willing to pay good prices for these databases and we should all strive to recover as many as possible in hopes it can turn the tides.
As for Ghost Sites, I also agree that is confusing that Concord would prohibit capsuleers from exploiting them. Could you imagine what the empires could do if they got their hands on covert research databases recovered from them? Yet, sadly this is not the case. All we can do sell it back to the pirates and bit our tongues. |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2014.10.03 01:08:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote: Grind me a sample and send it to me for analysis.
How about you instead come to my quarters with sample for me to grind, and I will even SHOW you how we Caldari can grind.
We will instead face each other in a public and neutral coffeeshop and have a grind-and-brew out. |
Ria Nieyli
21421
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:16:00 -
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I believe that Kim was suggesting that she'd want to...
Actually, nevermind. Mirrored eyes |
Tyrel Toov
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:31:00 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:
As for Ghost Sites, I also agree that is confusing that Concord would prohibit capsuleers from exploiting them. Could you imagine what the empires could do if they got their hands on covert research databases recovered from them? Yet, sadly this is not the case. All we can do sell it back to the pirates and bit our tongues.
Well I agree that it's awfully silly to tell Capauleers "don't do this thing." I'm fairly sure CONCORD is capable of monitoring and archiving any and all important data we capsuleers come across. After all, they supply the clones and the capsules. It's not to far fetched that they would be able to run a copy of our memorys and knowledge for their own purposes. Maby they want to keep the data out of the hands of the empires themselves, so they have more of an edge... |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
97
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Posted - 2014.10.03 06:54:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:I believe that Kim was suggesting that she'd want to...
Actually, nevermind.
Not interested. Getting plugged into a capsule and firing missiles and autocannon rounds at will feels much, much better anyway. |
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