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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:26:00 -
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Many have experienced increased spurious disconnects in the past two weeks (myself included).
Are these apparent DDoS attacks a manifestation of "every action a consequence"? I honestly don't know, but I do find the timing interesting...
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:27:00 -
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Feyd, lots of love and all that, but this is going to get locked at warp speed. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Jurgen Strottenpotten
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:28:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Many have experienced increased spurious disconnects in the past two weeks (myself included). Are these apparent DDoS attacks a manifestation of "every action a consequence"? I honestly don't know, but I do find the timing interesting... F
I don't think there's any connection to anything. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:31:00 -
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Posting this now, to gather people who are angry about the extended downtime?
You're just risking getting permabanned too... ... which isn't helpfull at all....
Imagine CCP simply went on a widespread banning spree ... ... locking out everyone who even remotely seems to try to hurt them. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread |
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:32:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Are these apparent DDoS attacks a manifestation of "every action a consequence"?
Victim blaming and click baiting. Never stop, Feyd. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:36:00 -
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Quote: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
11. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including support ticket responses and emails) received from any member of CCP staff.
23. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
32. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1445
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:37:00 -
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So, there is no correlation with the timing of the recent swath of disconnects, with other events in your view?
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
5614
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:38:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So, there is no correlation with the timing of the recent swath of disconnects, with other events in your view?
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Well, you'd have to show what event you think the DDoS attacks are correlated with. "It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9945
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:40:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So, there is no correlation with the timing of the recent swath of disconnects, with other events in your view?
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I doubt it.
The guys doing this are also doing it to every Blizzard game, Destiny, Guns of Icarus, Steam, and half a dozen odd other things. They're far too indiscriminate for this to be targeted due to a specific reason. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:40:00 -
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Imagine the sh*t storm happening if CCP reverted on those actions and decisions to avert more ddos attacks(if that's the case for them). If CCP gave in then everyone and their grandma would ddos until they got their way with whatever issue they had. "We don't negotiate with terrorist"
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Jurgen Strottenpotten
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:40:00 -
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Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:Rumor mongering I said there's no connection. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1447
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:41:00 -
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I actually wasn't aware others were getting zapped. Thanks for the correction.
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10210
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:42:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So, there is no correlation with the timing of the recent swath of disconnects, with other events in your view?
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I pointed out some time that the first DDOS in the last months was at the time of the last big swoop of permabans on the 10th of September.
Like... literally when people realised they got permabanned.
I asked people here or ingame about the last attack before that, but got no response. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread |
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
randomly named no tax corp v2
16
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:46:00 -
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Who knows? Plenty of people have pointed to Somer, but look at all the borderline deranged people who shoot the Jita monument, or spend countless hours building pointless whine structures out of depots. Any of them could be irrational enough for it.
It could just be the old staple of DDOS: blackmail. All online services that require very high uptime %s get hit by that sooner or later - gambling or online gaming are particularly vulnerable to this (I have some experience of the former, a previous company I worked for had near constant attacks and demands for money). The DDOS episodes are also especially timed for Eve's peak hours, 1900-2100, which maybe points to this. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9945
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:47:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:I actually wasn't aware others were getting zapped. Thanks for the correction.
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Not even going to lie, them doing it to Destiny bothers me more than to EVE. Bungie *can* handle it, for the most part, but it happens at inopportune times.
Was doing a nightfall, had gotten a ridiculously good drop, and poof, disconnect. No loot. I damn near cried. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Dave Stark
7009
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:49:00 -
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there's not enough tinfoil in the world for this thread. |
Adrie Atticus
the shadow plague The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:49:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So, there is no correlation with the timing of the recent swath of disconnects, with other events in your view?
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Yes there is the original group called LizardSquad is still alive and went from "WOO LOOK AT US CRASHING GAMES WITH STREAMERS" to full-on tinfoil of "GAMING COMPANIES ARE EVIL AND NEED TO BE DESTROYED".
So in essence, they became Gevlon Goblin except the target is companies and not an alliance. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10210
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:50:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:there's not enough tinfoil in the world for this thread. Personally I'd just like to know when the last one before the 10th was..... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the newest and sexiest in New Eden Fashion today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1447
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:51:00 -
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So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them?
I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9945
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:51:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote: So in essence, they became Gevlon Goblin except the target is companies and not an alliance.
Well, that's not true.
Lizard Squad is competent. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9946
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:52:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them? I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances... F
Better mousetrap, and all that.
If someone could figure that kind of thing out with any certainty, they'd be Bill Gates rich in a few months. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
GreenSeed
1185
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:53:00 -
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we don't negotiate with terrorists. |
Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
55
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:55:00 -
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More like manifestation of a Vitamin D deficiency. GöÇGòó The Explorer I GöÇGòó The Explorer II (Coming Soon!)
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Hendrick Kion
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:59:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them? I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances... F
Appliances? Like what, a George Foreman Grill? |
Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
251
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Posted - 2014.09.30 13:59:00 -
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Lucrii Dei wrote:More like manifestation of a Vitamin D deficiency. It's hilarious how people avoid the obvious, isn't it? The most sexy piece of clothing New Eden saw to date! The 'Open Avenue' short dress! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461 Join my mailing list, "wemew", for fast and easy future updates! (without the ") |
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
randomly named no tax corp v2
16
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:00:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them? I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances...
I'm curious too, but it sounds like they're very reluctant to give out any details (maybe makes it easier for attackers?).
In one of the other threads, I think CCP Explorer said something like (can't remember exact wording) they've had plenty attacks in the past, but players haven't seen any effect because their defences/methods coped with it.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9946
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:02:00 -
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Hendrick Kion wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them? I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances... F Appliances? Like what, a George Foreman Grill?
For anyone who doesn't have a George Foreman Grill, get one. It is amazing, the only "As seen on TV" product I have ever encountered that lives up to the hype. Exceeds expectations in cooking, and relatively easy to clean as well.
Especially for chicken, OMG it's insane. Steak seasoning, a bit of cinammon sugar, cut it into cubes and cook that ****er up on the G.F., it rocks my socks. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5557
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:08:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hendrick Kion wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So is it that DDoS defense appliances don't work, or these gaming companies just aren't using them? I would be interested to hear what CCP is doing to pro-actively engage a defense against these service interruptions, and if they at least have said appliances... F Appliances? Like what, a George Foreman Grill? For anyone who doesn't have a George Foreman Grill, get one. It is amazing, the only "As seen on TV" product I have ever encountered that lives up to the hype. Exceeds expectations in cooking, and relatively easy to clean as well. Especially for chicken, OMG it's insane. Steak seasoning, a bit of cinammon sugar, cut it into cubes and cook that ****er up on the G.F., it rocks my socks.
Speaking of rocking, I'm no engineer, but rock and roll doesn't seem like a solid foundation to be building a whole ******* city on. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
9946
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:10:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: Speaking of rocking, I'm no engineer, but rock and roll doesn't seem like a solid foundation to be building a whole ******* city on.
Idk, they do have that Japanese anti earthquake architecture, where the building rolls and shifts around in order to dissipate the force of a tremor.
Rock and roll, as it were. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
584
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Posted - 2014.09.30 14:11:00 -
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Yes, but how well does it work against giant robots? I mean that IS the true test, no? |
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