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Sorila Renne
Bullets And Tears The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 21:24:00 -
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Hi Everyone, Please correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but was the prospect not the first of a new line of T2 or T3 mining ships that they were going to be releasing? Has there been any more word regarding any other new roll outs that I somehow missed? If I'm in error I'm sorry for the confusion and thanks in advance for any information anyone here might have regarding this issue. |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 21:25:00 -
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The prospect is tech 2. And no CCP has mentioned no plans to add more mining ships. Come play Crink, over 130 billion in prizes paid out already!
Join the channel 'crink' in game or visit http://crink.corelicorp.net to play. |
Roderick Raholan
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.30 21:29:00 -
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Sorila Renne wrote:Hi Everyone, Please correct me if I'm remembering this incorrectly, but was the prospect not the first of a new line of T2 or T3 mining ships that they were going to be releasing? Has there been any more word regarding any other new roll outs that I somehow missed? If I'm in error I'm sorry for the confusion and thanks in advance for any information anyone here might have regarding this issue.
I think just the mention of new T2 or a T3 mining ships has players across EVE frothing at the mouth for one reason or another... The Prospect was introduced as an Expedition Frigate, I don't recall anything about new T2's or a T3 mining vessel, but then again I might be completely wrong... I think they just wanted to make it easier and well safer in a way to go into null or wormholes, harvest resources and get it back to your base instead of using a venture. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.09.30 21:35:00 -
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lol T3 mining ship. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked, you sissies. Check out the first ever military cap! Everything for the state ........... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374461&find=unread |
Sorila Renne
Bullets And Tears The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 21:40:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:lol T3 mining ship.
What'd be wrong with a T3 mining ship? I think it's really sad that the progression for the most basic of professions is so short compared to EVERY other profession in Eve. Even the Capital progression turns from Mining ship to command ships which just end up squatting in POS's until they have the unfortunate fate of getting bumped out. Even when you look at Exhumers compared to mining barges, the price difference is NOT in line with the difference in ship bonuses. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.09.30 21:42:00 -
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I'm sure all the suicide gankers in hisec would just love it if CCP released a T3 Mining Barge.... CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 22:04:00 -
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I hate the dirty miners as much as the next person, but have to admit that a T3 mining ship from ORE would be kinda interesting.
I imagine it would cover all the mining related tasks. A sub for mining links, survivability, cap, cov-ops, ore hold, and efficiency, etc... With such a shiny ship I believe less people would become bot aspirant and actually pay attention as to not lose their Veldspar sucking boat. And Bob forbid, they might actually interact with the rest of EVE.
Fun for the miner, the ganker, and the whole family! |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.09.30 22:41:00 -
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There should be a t3 miner. At least one of the subsystems should give a t3 the ability to mine gas efficiently. As hell you need gas to make t3 stuff anyway. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.09.30 22:41:00 -
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I want a pirate faction barge....
Can't be as specialized as T2 ofcourse. I mean Skiff and drones are cool. But pirates are bound to have some crazy configuration. With guns n stuff. Yeah. 425mm railguns would be a good start. Do it like this:
When ORE saw miners moving into ever bigger ships to mine, they saw an opportunity and released their Mining Barges and Exhumers to a wider audience. The massive increase in mining yield these ships provided quickly made them the mining-ship of choice in regulated empire space. The more unsavory elements in EVE however refrained from leaving their adapted battleships and opted for even more specialization instead. Although these "mining ships" lack the firepower of their combat-oriented forefathers, their legacy can still catch a capsuleer off-guard. |
Sorila Renne
Bullets And Tears The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 22:48:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:I want a pirate faction barge....
Can't be as specialized as T2 ofcourse. I mean Skiff and drones are cool. But pirates are bound to have some crazy configuration. With guns n stuff. Yeah. 425mm railguns would be a good start. Do it like this:
When ORE saw miners moving into ever bigger ships to mine, they saw an opportunity and released their Mining Barges and Exhumers to a wider audience. The massive increase in mining yield these ships provided quickly made them the mining-ship of choice in regulated empire space. The more unsavory elements in EVE however refrained from leaving their adapted battleships and opted for even more specialization instead. Although these "mining ships" lack the firepower of their combat-oriented forefathers, their legacy can still catch a capsuleer off-guard.
That would be pretty cool. Converted BC or BS hulls as mining barges hehe. I know it'd just be a huge target, but I'd love an orca class mining vessel. I know that'd be a botter's dream, so just don't allow them in Hisec like supers and other like sized capital ships. Everyone's fair game in Nullsec. |
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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:08:00 -
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Sorila Renne wrote:Solecist Project wrote:lol T3 mining ship. What'd be wrong with a T3 mining ship? I think it's really sad that the progression for the most basic of professions is so short compared to EVERY other profession in Eve. Even the Capital progression turns from Mining ship to command ships which just end up squatting in POS's until they have the unfortunate fate of getting bumped out. Even when you look at Exhumers compared to mining barges, the price difference is NOT in line with the difference in ship bonuses.
Your progression is into a Rorqual. That is surely significant enough. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Sorila Renne
Bullets And Tears The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:15:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Sorila Renne wrote:Solecist Project wrote:lol T3 mining ship. What'd be wrong with a T3 mining ship? I think it's really sad that the progression for the most basic of professions is so short compared to EVERY other profession in Eve. Even the Capital progression turns from Mining ship to command ships which just end up squatting in POS's until they have the unfortunate fate of getting bumped out. Even when you look at Exhumers compared to mining barges, the price difference is NOT in line with the difference in ship bonuses. Your progression is into a Rorqual. That is surely significant enough.
Except as I mentioned earlier, the orca and the Rorqual are command ships, not mining ships. Command ships for Mining vessels unlike command ships for combat vessels cannot also take part in the activity that they boost, IE command combat ships can take part in combat, but Rorqual's or Orca's can't mine & boost. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:22:00 -
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Many of the cruiser level recon have drone mining bonus. We just don't use them as such, mostly because drones and cloaks don't really go together. Adding a role bonus to the pilgrim to include mining lasers would fill this out, even if it's a slim chance anyone ever used it. They also fit in the idea of the Prospect which is a mining ship able to move with the black ops bridge mechanic but of course Black Ops logistics are kind of dead due to the intell system called local. I've seen situations where I could recon mine and even move the stuff I was gathering to and from high sec to one jump. It all requires that I don't need to in order for it to work though. |
Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:30:00 -
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During the lead up to the release of the Prospect, there was a lot of requests for additional Expedition Frigates, one each specialized for gas and ice mining. In one of the threads (can't remember if it was Dev blog, F&I, or test server feedback) CCP Fozzie made the comment that an ice mining Expedition Frigate was a definite possibility. Other than that, there wasn't any other mention of more t2 mining ships, frigates or otherwise. As for T3 industrial ships, so far as I know those have always just been pure speculation and dreaming on the part of the players. But, I haven't been around that long so don't quote me on that |
Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
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Posted - 2014.09.30 23:59:00 -
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https://twitter.com/EVE_CSM/status/516043445748903936
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.10.01 01:16:00 -
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lol antibumping.
Every ganker will love this ship.
I wonder how hard it will make miners rage when they realise that they lose a week of skilling when they lose their t3 ............................................
OMG THE FORUMS WILL BE FULL OF TEARS !!!! Horrible thought, tbh. :/
Good night. (:
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Lucrii Dei
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
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Posted - 2014.10.01 01:29:00 -
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Because T3's are made with reverse engineered sleeper technology and sleepers have no need for ores. GöÇGòó The Explorer I GöÇGòó The Explorer II (Coming Soon!)
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2014.10.01 01:35:00 -
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More T3 ship types in general would be great, why stop at mining ships? I mean, I can't wait to gank a few myself but, why should CCP add those before combat frigates, battleships, battlecruisers, hell even capitals? On the other hand, they really need to do a balancing pass on the ones we already have before they go diving in the deep end of adding more. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Angeal MacNova
LankTech
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Posted - 2014.10.01 01:46:00 -
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Based on some of the posts, do people not realize where the ammo, ships, modules, etc. found for sale on the market come from? Do they honestly think that their buying of equipment off the market is the same as buying gear from an NPC vendor? |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2014.10.01 01:49:00 -
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Angeal MacNova wrote:Based on some of the posts, do people not realize where the ammo, ships, modules, etc. found for sale on the market come from? Do they honestly think that their buying of equipment off the market is the same as buying gear from an NPC vendor?
Are you implying that a few miners in high sec getting ganked will somehow adversely affect the market to the point of total collapse? Cuz, people do mine in low and null you know, we don't need you as much as you think we do. And there are so many high sec miners, ganking them all is way too much effort. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
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Posted - 2014.10.01 02:05:00 -
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Sorila Renne wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Sorila Renne wrote:Solecist Project wrote:lol T3 mining ship. What'd be wrong with a T3 mining ship? I think it's really sad that the progression for the most basic of professions is so short compared to EVERY other profession in Eve. Even the Capital progression turns from Mining ship to command ships which just end up squatting in POS's until they have the unfortunate fate of getting bumped out. Even when you look at Exhumers compared to mining barges, the price difference is NOT in line with the difference in ship bonuses. Your progression is into a Rorqual. That is surely significant enough. Except as I mentioned earlier, the orca and the Rorqual are command ships, not mining ships. Command ships for Mining vessels unlike command ships for combat vessels cannot also take part in the activity that they boost, IE command combat ships can take part in combat, but Rorqual's or Orca's can't mine & boost. Wrong.. Orcas and Rorqs can mine... with mining drones :) |
Kizmin Rider
Control-Space DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2014.10.01 02:34:00 -
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Don't worry. When off grid mining boosts are finally removed, Rorquals and Orca's will certainly take part in the action |
Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.01 06:01:00 -
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We already got 4 T2 mining ship, a capital mining ship and a booster mining ship... Plus we got the tier 1 versions as well which are quite good compared to the difference between combat T1 and T2 ships.
The cloak effect on the Prospect is pretty awesome, especially for quiet wormhole mining, but I feel it's a little overkill... Cloaking device on a mining ship... But that's just me. |
Chinwe Rhei
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.01 06:31:00 -
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We already got 3 t2 mining barges and a t2 mining frigate, i think that's plenty. I don't think there needs to be a t3 one, frankly it's just ganker bait and t3 ships in general were a terrible ideea, because they reduce the diversity of ships flown and the variety of tactics employed with one configurable "jack of all trades".
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.10.01 07:05:00 -
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Kizmin Rider wrote:Don't worry. When off grid mining boosts are finally removed, Rorquals and Orca's will certainly take part in the action
orcas might, rorquals won't.
the difference in boosts vs the difference in value simply isn't worth using rorqual boosts. even more so in it's current ****** "sitting duck" iteration. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
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Posted - 2014.10.01 07:39:00 -
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a simple mining T3 subsystem should solve missing T3 ships CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2014.10.01 07:55:00 -
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There are several subsystems missing from the line-up originally unveiled at FanFest. Two of those would make T3 mining a reality. A mining laser sub - let's say 4 possible turret Hardpoints and a yield bonus for them - 30% per level perhaps? (equivalent to 10 mining lasers, a little better than old style Battleship mining). A Cargo sub - I believe that they have already shown art assets for the Caldari one at least - given the potential punch of a T3 with a cargo sub, not to mention the potential for nullification and cloaks it probably can't be larger than about 5k m3... |
Dave Stark
7009
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Posted - 2014.10.01 08:15:00 -
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Jacob Holland wrote:There are several subsystems missing from the line-up originally unveiled at FanFest. Two of those would make T3 mining a reality. A mining laser sub - let's say 4 possible turret Hardpoints and a yield bonus for them - 30% per level perhaps? (equivalent to 10 mining lasers, a little better than old style Battleship mining). A Cargo sub - I believe that they have already shown art assets for the Caldari one at least - given the potential punch of a T3 with a cargo sub, not to mention the potential for nullification and cloaks it probably can't be larger than about 5k m3...
5k m3 would be more than enough for a mining ship. especially if you're using low yield fast cycle time miner IIs rather than strip miners. |
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
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Posted - 2014.10.01 12:16:00 -
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The fact of the matter is that Mining as an activity is a small part of Eve and it already has the appropriate ships for the job covered. Anything they add would just be a more efficient mining ship which is just pointless.
If you want to progress from the task of mining you can look into POS management or even running a corp of miners and handling the business end. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5590
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Posted - 2014.10.01 12:19:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:...handling the business end.
Phrasing. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
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