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Veskrashen
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:12:00 -
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bp920091 wrote:The problem isnt missions, the problem is that R8/32 moons are needed for reactions, and they are NOT universal, and very very regional (specifically R8, but R32 moons arent much better), and the POSs needed to react the materials are NOT plug and play. Caldari and Gallente POSs are about the only ones that can react to any reasonable degree. Minmatar and Amarr POSs do not have the CPU needed.
CCP, if you want to do this, you NEED to make ice and all moon minerals universal. To do otherwise will annihilate the T2 market. Hi. Just thought I'd point out that there are moons in 0.1-0.4 space, that you can buy moongoo off the market, and that reaction towers can be anchored anywhere - including highsec.
In short, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from sourcing the stuff you need to build and maintain the stuff you want. And sourcing raw materials to build your stuff will take far less jump-capable logistics capacity than moving finished goods around. We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..." |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1954
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:13:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:bp920091 wrote:MeBiatch wrote:bp920091 wrote:Well, we've got to expect that these changes are going to happen. CCP is blindly rushing into the future with a goal in mind, and doesnt care about the collateral damage that it'll cause in the process (collateral damage = anyone in 0.0 that's not in a major coalition, and anyone involved with the T2 market (including consumers)), Never mind that the real issue wont be dealt with (major coalitions and supercaps) without obliterating every other group that could be affected by their changes first.
These changes go through, my JF and 2 cyno accounts are going unsubbed, as there's no point for them anymore. They'll resub once CCP stares at the shambles of the T2 market, upon realization that the workaround pre-JF was to use carriers with industrials, and that most of the supply of R8/32 minerals will vanish (not all, most).
-$45/month for you CCP, great job.
How'd that anomaly nerf go for for greyscale? work out as intended? how about the refusal to listen to community feedback, saying that "we know what we're doing, it'll be fine," turning 95% of 0.0 into a wasteland. you now it would not be so bad if at the same time CCP added missions to outposts... that would help with the density problem faced with the current pve meta of 0.0 The problem isnt missions, the problem is that R8/32 moons are needed for reactions, and they are NOT universal, and very very regional (specifically R8, but R32 moons arent much better), and the POSs needed to react the materials are NOT plug and play. Caldari and Gallente POSs are about the only ones that can react to any reasonable degree. Minmatar and Amarr POSs do not have the CPU needed. CCP, if you want to do this, you NEED to make ice and all moon minerals universal. To do otherwise will annihilate the T2 market. No, it won't. What it'll do is create haves and not haves, which creates feuds. Which is good.
cant you use WH and stuff like that as a way to import those materials... or get a corp that will import them for you for a fee?
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
444
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:14:00 -
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Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Are you seriously blaming the the players for playing the game as it is designed? Given that the players decide what goals to pursue and how, yes. I think it's entirely appropriate to do so. We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..." |
smokeydapot
MSE-corp Northern Associates.
12
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:15:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Looking forward to getting this significant set of improvements for Nullsec released!
Big thanks to the whole CSM for their help with this process so far and the good work I know they'll continue to do as we consult with them going forward.
I want to remind people that this is just one step. We're not expecting it to fix everything overnight but it will be a very valuable step forward that we will keep building upon.
CCP Greyscale wrote:Black ops we will look at again, definitely. Can't say what we'll decide, but it's clear from the discussion thus far that they need another pass.
To quote a previous dev from a news story iGÇÖve just been reading I donGÇÖt hold my breath for future iterations of this GÇ£featureGÇ¥ this is also based on previous years of experience with eve and the devs of old and new.
previous dev wrote:Without the time or resources to properly do so, many things were left half-delivered, to be iterated upon later GÇô which never happened. CCP has an extensive track record of promising to return to features and never doing so
News article
My confidence is at an all time low in the belief that this "feature" will be visited upon any time within the next 5 years and they where working on 6 month schedules.
I see a future of battle rorqs and mass black ops fleets it looks funny but an industrial and a T2 BS projecting force rarther than capitals no that just sounds wrong to me.
If your really set on hitting jump drives hit them ALL before we end up with more "unintended gameplay".
Waits for the tears of the HTFU crowd |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
351
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:15:00 -
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Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Are you seriously blaming the the players for playing the game as it is designed? Just because you don't understand why the design created the Eve of today, doesn't mean that it's not the root cause. Everything that exists today in nullsec is the inevitable result of how nullsec works and how people work. And now you're pouring cement into the mix. Well, no. See, the game is designed as we know it right now. You guys can blob at your hearts content as of today.
With the changes, and more to the point, the question being asked, Grayscale's reply is correct. Why should CCP tell you how to adapt to the changes and play the game? Get your alliance leaders to figure that bit out for you. Shed weight if you need to, and move on. Adapt and survive, or die out is what he is saying.
This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
855
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:15:00 -
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Veskrashen wrote: reaction towers can be anchored anywhere - including highsec.
Um, no. Both miners and reactors are restricted to 0.4 or below. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
93
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:16:00 -
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Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Are you seriously blaming the the players for playing the game as it is designed? Just because you don't understand why the design created the Eve of today, doesn't mean that it's not the root cause. Everything that exists today in nullsec is the inevitable result of how nullsec works and how people work. And now you're pouring cement into the mix.
No, he's blaming you for voluntarily playing an aspect of it while simulataneously suggesting its not worth it and theres better to be had elsewhere.
He's calling you out on such a b.s. statement. Just far more eloquently and with fewer words.
"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |
Innominate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
595
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:17:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Well, no. See, the game is designed as we know it right now. You guys can blob at your hearts content as of today. With the changes, and more to the point, the question being asked, Grayscale's reply is correct. Why should CCP tell you how to adapt to the changes and play the game? Get your alliance leaders to figure that bit out for you. Shed weight if you need to, and move on. Adapt and survive, or die out is what he is saying.
We can blob just fine after the changes, just the mechanics for doing so change slightly. In fact, the added difficulty in doing so is easily offset by guess what? Adding more people.
Nobody is asking him to figure it out for us, we know how, we can and will adapt to them. The problem is that Greyscale literally does not understand his own changes.
Nobody is complaining about the long distance force projection. The problem lies in all of the other backdoored changes that ruin life in nullsec even for those who never leave their home constellation. |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
445
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:18:00 -
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Querns wrote:Veskrashen wrote: reaction towers can be anchored anywhere - including highsec.
Um, no. Both miners and reactors are restricted to 0.4 or below. Ah - didn't realize that about reactors. Been a while since I've run a POS.
Oh well - guess there's absolutely nowhere outside of Sov Null to source moongoo or do reactions. We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..." |
Kirasten
No Vacancies
95
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:20:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:McBorsk wrote:218 pages? Calm down, people. I am calm and im trying my best to prvide reasonable comprimises
How many times can I say it. CCP will not compromise. Coming up with new ideas at this point isn't doing anything. They don't care. It doesn't matter how articulate your argument is, this is exactly what they want to do. Everyone crying over how hard their life will be doesn't make them want to change their mind, it makes them assured that these changes are exactly what they want. |
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Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
351
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:20:00 -
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Innominate wrote:Erufen Rito wrote:Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
With the changes, and more to the point, the question being asked, Grayscale's reply is correct. Why should CCP tell you how to adapt to the changes and play the game? Get your alliance leaders to figure that bit out for you. Shed weight if you need to, and move on. Adapt and survive, or die out is what he is saying. Nobody is asking him to figure it out for us, we know how, we can and will adapt to them. The problem is that Greyscale literally does not understand his own changes. I will let you figure out the inconsistency with your statement.
The original question posed content creation from CCP after the changes. Grayscale's answer stands. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1954
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:20:00 -
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Kirasten wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Asteroid VeIdspar wrote:I may be late with my input. I really hope all these lvl 4 mission runners, who praise this change, hop in their golems and invade nullsec for so much needed content after "the power projection nerf". Also on the side note I remember there was the CFC backed event of bringing highsec players into nullsec. Huge fleets were assembled, so much tidi and then... there was Vee with his gate camp and hundreds of wrecks around him. He said something like that "I'm amazed how these developers have so little idea about how their own game operates". Ironic is that the o.o empires are built off the back of former lev IV mission runners doing annoms in thier carriers... So i really do hope that come patch day the proletariat rise up against thier bourgeoisie masters. I don't think you understand the definition of irony.
inconceivable There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
785
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:21:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Stay focused everyone. Keep the balanced ideas coming in. If we work hard CCP will meet us half way with changes we can all agree on.
You're new here aren't you. CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1954
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:22:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Stay focused everyone. Keep the balanced ideas coming in. If we work hard CCP will meet us half way with changes we can all agree on. You're new here aren't you.
nah I remember him from the Frege days and Mad pact There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
137
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:23:00 -
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Innominate wrote:Erufen Rito wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Well, no. See, the game is designed as we know it right now. You guys can blob at your hearts content as of today. With the changes, and more to the point, the question being asked, Grayscale's reply is correct. Why should CCP tell you how to adapt to the changes and play the game? Get your alliance leaders to figure that bit out for you. Shed weight if you need to, and move on. Adapt and survive, or die out is what he is saying. We can blob to our heart's content after the changes, just the mechanics for doing so change slightly. Nobody is asking him to figure it out for us, we know how, we can and will adapt to them. The problem is that Greyscale literally does not understand his own changes.
Good luck scrambling your subcap fleets all over the far reaches of your space. Gonna take a heck of a lot longer than hotdropping. And the people going after you might just bring their own caps, knowing yours wont be able to respond. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
247
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:23:00 -
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Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Are you seriously blaming the the players for playing the game as it is designed?
Yea, cause CCP knew you were going to be such coward carebears and make half of the player base blue and the other half treaty.
Yea that was designed into the game wasn't it GOON.
They knew you were scared little girls, coddling your capitals, crying when you get attacked all over the forums. |
smokeydapot
MSE-corp Northern Associates.
12
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:24:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Stay focused everyone. Keep the balanced ideas coming in. If we work hard CCP will meet us half way with changes we can all agree on. You're new here aren't you.
Aahh the optimistic noob I remember the day when I was one of them, It was a sunny Saturday afternoon and.................... |
Yroc Jannseen
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:26:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Are you seriously blaming the the players for playing the game as it is designed? Yea, cause CCP knew you were going to be such coward carebears and make half of the player base blue and the other half treaty. Yea that was designed into the game wasn't it GOON. They knew you were scared little girls, coddling your capitals, crying when you get attacked all over the forums.
You do realize goons conquered half the galaxy right?
How many times can you defeat the same people?
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
93
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:26:00 -
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Innominate wrote:The problem is that Greyscale literally does not understand his own changes.
The vast majority of people seem willing to wager he literally does.
Unless you have some info on his personal plans we're not privy to?
Perhaps some NDA violating info one of your little friends fed you? "The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:27:00 -
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smokeydapot wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Stay focused everyone. Keep the balanced ideas coming in. If we work hard CCP will meet us half way with changes we can all agree on. You're new here aren't you. Aahh the optimistic noob I remember the day when I was one of them, It was a sunny Saturday afternoon and....................
You're the problem N3, just bio and game fixt. |
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
168
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:27:00 -
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Innominate wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote: That's a question I'd suggest you ask your leaders, not us.
Are you seriously blaming the the players for playing the game as it is designed? Just because you don't understand why the design created the Eve of today, doesn't mean that it's not the root cause. Everything that exists today in nullsec is the inevitable result of how nullsec works and how people work. And now you're pouring cement into the mix.
The irony of a sandbox is that sometimes bullies come out to play as well. Some leaders are bullies and some are not. Now, CCP could go all out and remove any mechanic bullies might use and abuse but in so doing they would remove the sandbox. CCP is trying to avoid removing the sandbox and yeah, this hurts, but it hurts a heck of a lot less than other options... like, say, removing jump drives completely. |
Sigras
Conglomo
914
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:27:00 -
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Athay Huren wrote:Megarom wrote:TDLR; I think there is a better model for that mathemathics involved. how about this TimeDrawsNigh wrote:Counter proposal for the jump delay timer. Link below is a google excel doc. of cumulative delay timer that incrementally gets longer with each jump. http://bit.ly/1rOpzTsItGÇÖs a logarithmic scale. So when you jump you get two timers. First timer is the jump drive timer; the second timer is jump drive activation delay. The jump drive timer is a base 30 minutes and every time you make a jump it will record the amount and add +1 to the "Jumps Made Since Timer Began" value. The jump drive timer will reset back to 30 min every time you make a new jump. The jump drive activation delay is the timer you get once you have jumped. ItGÇÖs the time you have to wait till the next jump can be made. The equation for this is below. http://i.imgur.com/EQpv4Cv.pngThe principal of what happens here is that your delay timer gets bigger with each jump. The increment between each subsequent timer gets smaller, causing the graph to plateau out into a logarithmic curve. Eventually after so many jumps the delay timer will reach the same value as the jump drive timer, at which point itGÇÖs better with it out entirely and then start the process over. Initially we found a problem with the function where doing three really short distance jumps would make the times later overall shorter but that has been fixed with the GÇ£Jump Amount Modifier.GÇ¥ So e.g. Jump 1 > 4.19 LY > delay timer of 6.42min > cumulative time 6.42min Jump 2 > 4.7 LY > delay timer of 9.72 min > cumulative time 16.14min Jump 3 > 4.206 LY > delay timer of 11.73 min > cumulative time 27.86min Jump 5 > 4.564 LY > delay timer of 13.28 min > cumulative time 41.14min Jump 6 > 1.855 LY > delay timer of 14.15 min > cumulative time 55.29min Notice the increase in time getting smaller but the time overall still get longer. Bit like the diminishing returns of stacking nerf. This Post and Equation was worked on by Sieonigh and myself. Edit: We made this formula under the assumption that Jump Freighters and Rorquals do NOT have the 90% reduction, rather we think Black Ops should have this reduction (which we're implementing). No!
the point of this change is that you get a bigger penalty for traveling several jumps all at once but little to no penalty for staying local.
traveling 6 jumps from deklien to defend your summer home in fountain should incur a penalty measured in days or at least tens of hours.
you want short travel times for fights? you sacrifice security and attack the people right near you.
you want security? you sacrifice the ability to quickly get to fights...
gone are the days where you could have your cake and eat it too... they never should have existed in the first place |
smokeydapot
MSE-corp Northern Associates.
14
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:27:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Yea, cause CCP knew you were going to be such coward carebears and make half of the player base blue and the other half treaty.
Yea that was designed into the game wasn't it GOON.
Why have a standing system if it never gets used ?????
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
1115
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:29:00 -
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Kirasten wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:McBorsk wrote:218 pages? Calm down, people. I am calm and im trying my best to prvide reasonable comprimises How many times can I say it. CCP will not compromise. Coming up with new ideas at this point isn't doing anything. They don't care. It doesn't matter how articulate your argument is, this is exactly what they want to do. Everyone crying over how hard their life will be doesn't make them want to change their mind, it makes them assured that these changes are exactly what they want.
You havent been playing long enough then. I have seen them make reasonable compromises. Ive seen them make unreasonable ones too. They have given us ample time to give feed back on the changes. So you can continue to be negative or post constructively like many others and work with them. CCP will listen, sadly a lot of changes happen because too much of the player base is silent. |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
351
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:29:00 -
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smokeydapot wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Stay focused everyone. Keep the balanced ideas coming in. If we work hard CCP will meet us half way with changes we can all agree on. You're new here aren't you. Aahh the optimistic noob I remember the day when I was one of them, It was a sunny Saturday afternoon and.................... *skill training complete chime* Oh hey! Mining III finished! Time for IV! This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:30:00 -
[4496] - Quote
smokeydapot wrote:Arsine Mayhem wrote:Yea, cause CCP knew you were going to be such coward carebears and make half of the player base blue and the other half treaty.
Yea that was designed into the game wasn't it GOON.
Why have a standing system if it never gets used ?????
Y U so SCARED |
TimeDrawsNigh
Vengance Inc. Space Warriors
11
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:30:00 -
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TimeDrawsNigh wrote:Counter proposal for the jump delay timer. Link below is a google excel doc. of cumulative delay timer that incrementally gets longer with each jump. http://bit.ly/1rOpzTsItGÇÖs a logarithmic scale. So when you jump you get two timers. First timer is the jump drive timer; the second timer is jump drive activation delay. The jump drive timer is a base 30 minutes and every time you make a jump it will record the amount and add +1 to the "Jumps Made Since Timer Began" value. The jump drive timer will reset back to 30 min every time you make a new jump. The jump drive activation delay is the timer you get once you have jumped. ItGÇÖs the time you have to wait till the next jump can be made. The equation for this is below. http://i.imgur.com/EQpv4Cv.pngThe principal of what happens here is that your delay timer gets bigger with each jump. The increment between each subsequent timer gets smaller, causing the graph to plateau out into a logarithmic curve. Eventually after so many jumps the delay timer will reach the same value as the jump drive timer, at which point itGÇÖs better with it out entirely and then start the process over. Initially we found a problem with the function where doing three really short distance jumps would make the times later overall shorter but that has been fixed with the GÇ£Jump Amount Modifier.GÇ¥ So e.g. Jump 1 > 4.19 LY > delay timer of 6.42min > cumulative time 6.42min Jump 2 > 4.7 LY > delay timer of 9.72 min > cumulative time 16.14min Jump 3 > 4.206 LY > delay timer of 11.73 min > cumulative time 27.86min Jump 5 > 4.564 LY > delay timer of 13.28 min > cumulative time 41.14min Jump 6 > 1.855 LY > delay timer of 14.15 min > cumulative time 55.29min Notice the increase in time getting smaller but the time overall still get longer. Bit like the diminishing returns of stacking nerf. This Post and Equation was worked on by Sieonigh and myself. Edit: We made this formula under the assumption that Jump Freighters and Rorquals do NOT have the 90% reduction, rather we think Black Ops should have this reduction (which we're implementing).
The proposed formula above has been modified on the Google Docs Spreadsheet with a Black Ops Modifier which is implemented before the Jump Amount Coefficient (a 90% reduction Modifier).
Link to modified formula with Black Ops Modifier: http://imgur.com/GdLdM3R "Darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light." |
Rain6637
Team Evil
20844
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:31:00 -
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this is like... a preemptively redistributed Tidi, with the penalty scaled higher to players who would travel further to cause it. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
smokeydapot
MSE-corp Northern Associates.
14
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:32:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:smokeydapot wrote:KIller Wabbit wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Stay focused everyone. Keep the balanced ideas coming in. If we work hard CCP will meet us half way with changes we can all agree on. You're new here aren't you. Aahh the optimistic noob I remember the day when I was one of them, It was a sunny Saturday afternoon and.................... You're the problem N3, just bio and game fixt.
AAHH I remember the days when I was about a year old as well. It was a Tuesday and I was out scrumping for cars when I realised.......................
Erufen Rito wrote: *skill training complete chime* Oh hey! Mining III finished! Time for IV!
Did I inadvertently give you my API ?? How do you know what skill I just finished training ?? Oh you trying to insinuate I'm a miner through and through. |
Kirasten
No Vacancies
96
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:32:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Kirasten wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:McBorsk wrote:218 pages? Calm down, people. I am calm and im trying my best to prvide reasonable comprimises How many times can I say it. CCP will not compromise. Coming up with new ideas at this point isn't doing anything. They don't care. It doesn't matter how articulate your argument is, this is exactly what they want to do. Everyone crying over how hard their life will be doesn't make them want to change their mind, it makes them assured that these changes are exactly what they want. You havent been playing long enough then. I have seen them make reasonable compromises. Ive seen them make unreasonable ones too. They have given us ample time to give feed back on the changes. So you can continue to be negative or post constructively like many others and work with them. CCP will listen, sadly a lot of changes happen because too much of the player base is silent.
You weren't paying attention to the Hyperion update if you think this is true today. |
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