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Budrick3
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:31:00 -
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So I was running this site solo like I have done a thousand times before in the past with no problems and found it to be very difficult this time.
So difficult, I was stuck just repping the final wave and begging for help from my corp m8s because I knew that if I exited bastion mode with 5 sleeper battleships on the field, I would more than likely get popped off the field before I could warp to safety.
THANKS BTW CCP for that stealth buff to sleepers and no documentation in the patch release notes. Almost cost me a couple bill due to your ignorance. (I only learned of it after this awesome experience through the forums and corp m8s).
Anyway, long story short, the final wave (brief reference for you guys)
3x Frigates (Emergent Warden) [scram, web nos] 3x Cruisers (Awakened Warden) [rr] 5x Battleships (Sleepless Warden) [rr]wave...
Took 3 Marauders to break and about 30 to 40 minutes trickling down just the final wave with near perfect skilled characters.
Obviously these sites are meant to be difficult and I have come to the realization that they are perhaps no longer soloable, but in the same breath, it should not take 3 marauders half an hour to just do a single wave. That is very poor isk for the amount of risk divided 3 ways.
I hope that CCP will either rebalance or adjust this particular mission to compensate for this wonderful new NPC content because I doubt anyone will bother running them in the future once they experience the pure hell that is this site. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
707
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:55:00 -
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Your mad you can't solo a C5 site in a battleship and that you had to ask for help from...
a friend....? Yaay!!!! |
Levina Windstar
Mekalon Industry
19
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:08:00 -
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I think what most of the people deplore is that it's another "stealth" patch from CCP that implicate a huge change in WH and spceially the lack of communication from them towards the WH community.
Just look at the Jump distance thread. There were like over 20 Dev replies in less than 24 hours...
It's just frustating and sad but it gives us the impression that CCP doesn't give a **** about WH. |
Aiyshimin
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
125
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:21:00 -
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Can't believe how ******* entitled you sad wankers can be.
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Budrick3
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:47:00 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Can't believe how ******* entitled you sad wankers can be.
I think we're entitled to correct patch notes.
You must have to think to breathe. |
Glyndi
Doom Generation THE H0NEYBADGER
256
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:48:00 -
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Your in a class 5, its supposed to be hard. You've been in WHs soloing sleepers that have been bugged/broken.
Yeah it's **** that it wasn't in the notes because they 'forgot' to put it in. Roll with the punches man, there are other more efficient ways to do sites... |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
826
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:51:00 -
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That is an interesting wave assuming the stats haven't changed with the RR fix.
What your instincts tell you to do and what you should actually do is different due to the mixture of resists and size of target - even though they'd have the most incoming RR the resists on the frigs are enough lower they are actually the easiest target if you can fully apply damage to them.
It looks like worst cases your dealing with less than 1600dps tanked so it should be possible to do it with 2 decently fit/skilled marauders unless the stats have changed with the update - the frigs are about half that but obviously harder to apply damage on. |
Budrick3
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
52
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:56:00 -
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Glyndi wrote:Your in a class 5, its supposed to be hard. You've been in WHs soloing sleepers that have been bugged/broken.
Yeah it's **** that it wasn't in the notes because they 'forgot' to put it in. Roll with the punches man, there are other more efficient ways to do sites...
I guess the biggest thing that I am getting at is the ISK / RISK.
Not to beat a dead horse and continue to harp on HS incursion runners and null sec ratters, but there is a significant difference in ISK per hour with the recent changes.
This is the main point that I am trying to get at. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
716
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:01:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Glyndi wrote:Your in a class 5, its supposed to be hard. You've been in WHs soloing sleepers that have been bugged/broken.
Yeah it's **** that it wasn't in the notes because they 'forgot' to put it in. Roll with the punches man, there are other more efficient ways to do sites... I guess the biggest thing that I am getting at is the ISK / RISK. Not to beat a dead horse and continue to harp on HS incursion runners and null sec ratters, but there is a significant difference in ISK per hour with the recent changes. This is the main point that I am trying to get at.
You really presented it in an odd way.
Corbexx should still be compiling isk worth of sites in wormholes still.
But CCP needs to make wormhole stuff a little more valuable. Yaay!!!! |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1890
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Posted - 2014.10.02 20:40:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Your mad you can't solo a C5 site in a battleship and that you had to ask for help from...
a friend....?
Clearly he's mad because the change was unannounced. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect to be informed when a change like this happens. +1 |
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
3826
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Posted - 2014.10.02 21:58:00 -
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Levina Windstar wrote:I think what most of the people deplore is that it's another "stealth" patch from CCP that implicate a huge change in WH and spceially the lack of communication from them towards the WH community.
Just look at the Jump distance thread. There were like over 20 Dev replies in less than 24 hours...
It's just frustating and sad but it gives us the impression that CCP doesn't give a **** about WH. are you fkn kidding me? ccp replied immediately in the first thread to pop up, explained what happened, pointed to the relevant notes in the patch notes and apologized for it not being clearer regarding sleepers.
it's not their fault you lemmings cant read and just keep spawning new whine threads about it.
oh and OP, just run garrisons like everyone else, there's no RR apart from frigs. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
Budrick3
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
52
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:09:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Levina Windstar wrote:I think what most of the people deplore is that it's another "stealth" patch from CCP that implicate a huge change in WH and spceially the lack of communication from them towards the WH community.
Just look at the Jump distance thread. There were like over 20 Dev replies in less than 24 hours...
It's just frustating and sad but it gives us the impression that CCP doesn't give a **** about WH. are you fkn kidding me? ccp replied immediately in the first thread to pop up, explained what happened, pointed to the relevant notes in the patch notes and apologized for it not being clearer regarding sleepers. it's not their fault you lemmings cant read and just keep spawning new whine threads about it. oh and OP, just run garrisons like everyone else, there's no RR apart from frigs.
I'm sorry I don't read every post on the forums. I generally just look at the patch notes, and dev blogs. In the future I'll read every forum post before creating a thread.
My bad, I missed that memo.
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Kynric
Sky Fighters
194
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Posted - 2014.10.02 22:33:00 -
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The real tragedy is this gentleman spent the better part of an hour baiting (intentional or not) and apparently nobody noticed. I must scout harder space the last few days has seemed empty. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
3827
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:31:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Levina Windstar wrote:I think what most of the people deplore is that it's another "stealth" patch from CCP that implicate a huge change in WH and spceially the lack of communication from them towards the WH community.
Just look at the Jump distance thread. There were like over 20 Dev replies in less than 24 hours...
It's just frustating and sad but it gives us the impression that CCP doesn't give a **** about WH. are you fkn kidding me? ccp replied immediately in the first thread to pop up, explained what happened, pointed to the relevant notes in the patch notes and apologized for it not being clearer regarding sleepers. it's not their fault you lemmings cant read and just keep spawning new whine threads about it. oh and OP, just run garrisons like everyone else, there's no RR apart from frigs. I'm sorry I don't read every post on the forums. I generally just look at the patch notes, and dev blogs. In the future I'll read every forum post before creating a thread. My bad, I missed that memo. maybe read the one with a DEV tag on it if youre after DEV responses.... Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2324
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Posted - 2014.10.02 23:50:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:maybe read the one with a DEV tag on it if youre after DEV responses....
Especially if it has been pretty much at the top of the page all day and called "CCP what did you do to sleepers..."
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Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
926
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Posted - 2014.10.03 03:17:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote: it's not their fault you lemmings cant read
http://puu.sh/bXaXc/43eef9b01d.png
not everyone spend as much time on the forums as us :/ "Jack Miton liked your forum post:" |
F3X5ON
Zero Fun Allowed
13
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Posted - 2014.10.03 05:45:00 -
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Budrick3 wrote: Almost cost me a couple bill due to your ignorance.
It was not CCP that was ignorant friend. |
Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
165
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:17:00 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Can't believe how ******* entitled you sad wankers can be.
I might not agree with his post, but at least he can present his argument without descending to your level Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1592
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Posted - 2014.10.04 02:03:00 -
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Alright, removed some non-constructive and off-topic comments from this thread. Keep it polite, on topic, and refrain from name calling and inappropriate commentary. Thanks!
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