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Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
185
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Posted - 2014.10.07 23:40:00 -
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Diana;
I will hold to my promise to you on this matter, please inform me via evemail when my attendance shall be required, and inform his Lordship Draconis of the plan. "I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all." |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1306
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Posted - 2014.10.08 01:39:00 -
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Thank you, Ms. Shahni, I really appreciate what you are doing! |
Ria Nieyli
21466
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Posted - 2014.10.08 08:01:00 -
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Oooh, a secret! Tell me, tell me! I want to know too. Mirrored eyes |
Ragnos Nahmed
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.10.08 09:39:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Hedion University Dictionary wrote: philanthropy |f+¬-êlan++r+Öpi| noun [ mass noun ] the desire to promote the welfare of others, expressed especially by the generous donation of money to good causes.
Stress added. Thank you! That is exactly what my point is! Thus my calling it a philanthropic endeavor. It is not for my own glorification or benefit. It is because I am interested in the welfare of those who have been charged to me. I am responsible for quite a few other persons, in my corporation and my holdings, and thus the entire purpose of this event. For my own monetary income, I run security contracts or other methods in a similar fashion such as hunting non-capsuleer pirates. I am responsible for more than just myself, and have taken that responsibility very seriously. So again, I thank you for defining and reinforcing my point.
As you have previously said a portion of these funds are devoted to your corporate operations. A corporation does not solicit donations to sustain its business. It is a profit generating organization. Either you are not profitable or your are seeking to expand. If the former then investment is unwise, if the latter then it should be sought through bonds with interest paid to investors.
Further, one must question the ability for you to maintain your status of Holder if you have reached the point where you must seek charity to support your charges.
If it is the case that your corporation is self-sufficient and you are able to meet the needs of your slaves without begging for aid then this event seem wholly without merit. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1307
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:17:00 -
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And no, Ms. Sol, I wasn't afraid. Please excuse me for late reply.
I just don't want to... mine Veldspar. As for a date with a woman, there is nothing to be afraid of, because it cannot be a romantic date by definition, just as a date of a man with a man, as compared with a date of a man with a woman. |
Elmund Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:36:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:And no, Ms. Sol, I wasn't afraid. Please excuse me for late reply.
I just don't want to... mine Veldspar. As for a date with a woman, there is nothing to be afraid of, because it cannot be a romantic date by definition, just as a date of a man with a man, as compared with a date of a man with a woman.
An appointment, then. |
Khan Feng Zhou
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:42:00 -
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*Khan is sitting in a rather comfy lounge chair in his captain's quarters, and takes a puff from his rather shortened cigar*
I find it rather convenient that this "Nahmed" person has only posted this one time. Would not surprise me if he was hired to say stuff like that. I admit my saying so is rather ironic as this is my first time posting on the IGS, but I never had reason to before.
*He chuckles and takes another puff from his cigar, allowing the smoke to swirl around his bald head before continuing*
Although, I do not recall seeing this much opposition when reading the forum posts of when my own corporation held this kind of an event last year. And especially from an Amarr. Rather quite the opposite.
My apologies Lord Draconis, but as I am still rather a new capsuleer, such as this Nahmed fellow, I do not have the funds to participate in this event, as much as I want to.
I do, however, wish you the best, and perhaps God will even grant you results akin to those enjoyed by InExile from last year's auction!
*Khan smiles and cuts the transmission* |
Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
64
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:50:00 -
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Ragnos Nahmed wrote: I don't like the fact that you are making money in an easy way, and so I have to sow doubt to try and make you look bad.
Dude, I'm not a big fan of Amarrians. Haven't been one for a while. I've seen their bad side. But I've found this thread rather entertaining, and this Viceroy person seems to genuinely be trying to do some good. And that's saying something, coming from me.
So enough of these derailing posts! I wanna see more bids on Diana Kim. Make her squirm!
*gets out popcorn* "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1307
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Posted - 2014.10.08 11:53:00 -
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Please no? |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
532
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Posted - 2014.10.08 15:07:00 -
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Khan Feng Zhou wrote:I find it rather convenient that this "Nahmed" person has only posted this one time. Would not surprise me if he was hired to say stuff like that. I certainly would have hired him, if I had known what he was about to say!
Many regards Odelya d'Hanguest, Begum etc. pp. |
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Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
66
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:13:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Kale Silence wrote:Make her squirm! Please no?
*Continues eating popcorn* "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
146
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:22:00 -
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Simply as a reminder, amid the many attempts to derail this topic.
The bidding stands at:
(Female Date Volunteers) Diana Kim - 25m - Ria Neiyli Lasairiona Raske Literia Shalee Lianne - 100m - Johanesse Utsukushi Shi
(Male Date volunteers) Vulxanis Viceroy - 25m - Karynn Denton Eran Mintor - 25m - Havoj Marcus Gord
(Non-date Volunteers) Aldrith Shutaq - 105m - Foley Aberas Jones
And to answer the question previously, the split will be 80/20. As this is not an attempt at begging, merely an attempt to make things run smoother and more quickly with the raised funds, and the ultimate purpose is to raise money for the corporation, with the philanthropic works on the side. If you have further questions regarding my comments, you are welcome to ask me in a message, but I will no longer be explaining on the public forum.
For those of you who still wish to bid, please keep in mind the closing time will be on Saturday at 20:00. Thank you. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Johanesse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:26:00 -
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As a retired member of the Federal Navy I hereby bid 30 million for Diane Kim. I am sure it will be a pleasureable experience. |
Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
66
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:29:00 -
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Johanesse wrote:As a retired member of the Federal Navy I hereby bid 30 million for Diane Kim. I am sure it will be a pleasurable experience.
Hehe I would pay to see that! "Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |
Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
185
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Posted - 2014.10.08 16:45:00 -
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I will be there to Witness for Diana Kim (some call it a Chaperone?) to make sure that neither party leave such an event as meeting her for a date in a state in which was unintended by the spirit of this exersize.
Despite some people's apparent assumptions, this isn't a paid hunting trip or prostitution exersize.
I would have expected better, really... but I find myself often dissapointed by those outside of the Kingdom. "I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all." |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
147
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Posted - 2014.10.08 17:35:00 -
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Arista Shahni wrote:I will be there to Witness for Diana Kim (some call it a Chaperone?) to make sure that neither party leave such an event as meeting her for a date in a state in which was unintended by the spirit of this exersize.
Despite some people's apparent assumptions, this isn't a paid hunting trip or prostitution exersize.
I would have expected better, really... but I find myself often dissapointed by those outside of the Kingdom.
This is absolutely not paid hunting or prostitution in even the slightest sense. If it was, I would most certainly not be having volunteers, nor have instigated such a scheme in the first place.
I did clarify this in the clauses, allowing the volunteer great control over what they are willing to provide boundary-wise, but regardless, thank you for reiterating this. If security is requested on behalf of one of the volunteers, I will be more than happy to provide such. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Johanesse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.10.08 17:44:00 -
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Arista Shahni wrote:I will be there to Witness for Diana Kim (some call it a Chaperone?) to make sure that neither party leave such an event as meeting her for a date in a state in which was unintended by the spirit of this exersize.
Despite some people's apparent assumptions, this isn't a paid hunting trip or prostitution exersize.
I would have expected better, really... but I find myself often dissapointed by those outside of the Kingdom.
I am an officer (retired) and a gentleman. Ms. Kim has nothing to fear except, perhaps, herself.
Will you also ensure my safety? Which I assume is vouchsafed, in all events, by the sponsor of this exercise. |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
147
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Posted - 2014.10.08 17:45:00 -
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Johanesse wrote:Arista Shahni wrote:I will be there to Witness for Diana Kim (some call it a Chaperone?) to make sure that neither party leave such an event as meeting her for a date in a state in which was unintended by the spirit of this exersize.
Despite some people's apparent assumptions, this isn't a paid hunting trip or prostitution exersize.
I would have expected better, really... but I find myself often dissapointed by those outside of the Kingdom. I am an officer (retired) and a gentleman. Ms. Kim has nothing to fear except, perhaps, herself. Will you also ensure my safety? Which I assume is vouchsafed, in all events, by the sponsor of this exercise.
All provided security upon request of either party will be to ensure the pleasantness for both involved, not simply one side. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Arista Shahni
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.10.08 18:27:00 -
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Johanesse wrote:Arista Shahni wrote:I will be there to Witness for Diana Kim (some call it a Chaperone?) to make sure that neither party leave such an event as meeting her for a date in a state in which was unintended by the spirit of this exersize.
Despite some people's apparent assumptions, this isn't a paid hunting trip or prostitution exersize.
I would have expected better, really... but I find myself often dissapointed by those outside of the Kingdom. I am an officer (retired) and a gentleman. Ms. Kim has nothing to fear except, perhaps, herself. Will you also ensure my safety? Which I assume is vouchsafed, in all events, by the sponsor of this exercise.
Perhaps if you read what you have quoted, you shall see the answer to your question is already there.
"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also. -áAnd as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all." |
Erin Savonarola
House Savonarola
23
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:10:00 -
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Khan Feng Zhou wrote: I find it rather convenient that this "Nahmed" person has only posted this one time. Would not surprise me if he was hired to say stuff like that. I admit my saying so is rather ironic as this is my first time posting on the IGS, but I never had reason to before.
That does not make him any less correct. For someone that claims multiple dukedoms, Vulxanis sure does have financial issues. This is actually the second 'fundraiser' he's held. If I were bidding, I would want to know a bit more about where my money was going. |
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Havohej
41
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:19:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Eran Mintor - 25m - Havoj
You misspelled my callsign. It's Havohej.
30 Million for Diana Kim.
Strike us like matches, 'cause everyone deserves the flames. [url]http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/[/url] |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
147
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:24:00 -
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Havohej wrote:Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Eran Mintor - 25m - Havoj
You misspelled my callsign. It's Havohej.30 Million for Diana Kim.
My apologies. Thank you for the clarification. I shall edit that. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
147
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:28:00 -
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Erin Savonarola wrote:Khan Feng Zhou wrote: I find it rather convenient that this "Nahmed" person has only posted this one time. Would not surprise me if he was hired to say stuff like that. I admit my saying so is rather ironic as this is my first time posting on the IGS, but I never had reason to before.
That does not make him any less correct. For someone that claims multiple dukedoms, Vulxanis sure does have financial issues. This is actually the second 'fundraiser' he's held. If I were bidding, I would want to know a bit more about where my money was going.
You are welcome to bid on myself to have that conversation if you are so inclined. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Ragnos Nahmed
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:29:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:And to answer the question previously, the split will be 80/20. As this is not an attempt at begging, merely an attempt to make things run smoother and more quickly with the raised funds, and the ultimate purpose is to raise money for the corporation, with the philanthropic works on the side. If you have further questions regarding my comments, you are welcome to ask me in a message, but I will no longer be explaining on the public forum.
So you freely admit that these funds are meant to A) support a for-profit venture where you and your corporation will receive said profits and your benefactors may deposit a warm feeling into their bank accounts, and B) go towards caring for your charges because you are either unwilling or unable to provide for them without help?
These questions are of a serious nature because they both call into question the legitimacy of your business and your capabilities as a Holder. Somebody with pure intentions would make every effort to address these concerns. Likewise, somebody only seeking to fleece the generous would make every effort to avoid questions and public disclosure. |
Johanesse
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:47:00 -
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Havohej wrote:Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Eran Mintor - 25m - Havoj
You misspelled my callsign. It's Havohej.30 Million for Diana Kim.
I note that my bid of 30 million isk was previously placed at 2014.10.08 16:26.
Mr. Havohej's was placed at 2014.10.08 19:19, several hours later.
I assume, therefore, that my bid takes precedence and controls, being the first bid of that amount, as is customary in auctions.
Please confirm.
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Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
147
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:48:00 -
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Johanesse wrote:Havohej wrote:Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Eran Mintor - 25m - Havoj
You misspelled my callsign. It's Havohej.30 Million for Diana Kim. I note that my bid of 30 million isk was previously placed at 2014.10.08 16:26. Mr. Havohej's was placed at 2014.10.08 19:19, several hours later. I assume, therefore, that my bid takes precedence and controls, being the first bid of that amount, as is customary in auctions. Please confirm.
It is confirmed. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Havohej
41
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:49:00 -
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I didn't see that bid.
40 Million, Diana Kim. Strike us like matches, 'cause everyone deserves the flames. [url]http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/[/url] |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
536
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Posted - 2014.10.08 19:54:00 -
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Vulxanis Viceroy wrote:Erin Savonarola wrote:Khan Feng Zhou wrote: I find it rather convenient that this "Nahmed" person has only posted this one time. Would not surprise me if he was hired to say stuff like that. I admit my saying so is rather ironic as this is my first time posting on the IGS, but I never had reason to before.
That does not make him any less correct. For someone that claims multiple dukedoms, Vulxanis sure does have financial issues. This is actually the second 'fundraiser' he's held. If I were bidding, I would want to know a bit more about where my money was going. You are welcome to bid on myself to have that conversation if you are so inclined. How do you expect a person who cannot even manage a cattle-market (or a capsuleer auction) to oversee a holding? The tattoo on my arm is worth more than a meeting with Vulxanis, the Beggar Lord. And I not talking about financial matters here...
Many regards Odelya d'Hanguest, Begum etc. pp.
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Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
274
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Posted - 2014.10.08 20:29:00 -
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Erin Savonarola wrote:If I were bidding, I would want to know a bit more about where my money was going.
I don't give a hoot, I'm gonna date a Lord! Karynn Denton Caravan Master
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Erin Savonarola
House Savonarola
26
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Posted - 2014.10.08 20:54:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:How do you expect someone who cannot even manage a cattle-market (or a capsuleer auction) to oversee a holding? The tattoo on my arm is worth more than a meeting with Vulxanis, the Beggar LordGÇöidealistically spoken, and financially...
Many regards Odelya d'Hanguest, Begum etc. pp. If you were not so rabidly anti-Imperial, you would be a fascinating woman to speak with. |
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