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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 14:50:00 -
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It seems that raven pilots no longer need to fit warp scramblers to their ships.
Yesterday during a fleet engagement I was engaging multiple targets approx 120-130km away from the gate.A raven using javelin bane torpedos fired 2 volleys on me or more.The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.The whole time these missiles were hitting me i was engaged to warp having started to warp from an aligned postion but not at max speed prior to the first volley of torpedos hitting me.
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven.
Whenever posts are made about the overpowerment of torpedo ravens the usual suspects make long whining posts about how torps can only hit at very limited ranges and thus can justify their extreme damage since they only hit close range.Well this latest experience shows them to be wrong.
What is the point of flying turret battleships when torpedo ravens can hit for full damage at 150km and knock u out of warp into the bargain?
Where is the turret battleship that does the same damage at 150km as it does at 40km?
This is bull**** CCP sort it the **** out.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.11 14:55:00 -
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There are multiple reason why this happened:
- Lag
- Minmatar recon had you webbed
- Lag and torps bumped you
- Lag and damage got screwed and torps hit you for more than the usual damage
The last one happens pretty often to turrets users. They hit for normal damage and a second later they kill a freighter with 3-4 hits (Farjungs movie).
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IizzaBatch
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Posted - 2006.08.11 14:55:00 -
[3]
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2006.08.11 14:59:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Ginger Magician
It seems that raven pilots no longer need to fit warp scramblers to their ships.
Yesterday during a fleet engagement I was engaging multiple targets approx 120-130km away from the gate.A raven using javelin bane torpedos fired 2 volleys on me or more.The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.The whole time these missiles were hitting me i was engaged to warp having started to warp from an aligned postion but not at max speed prior to the first volley of torpedos hitting me.
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven.
Whenever posts are made about the overpowerment of torpedo ravens the usual suspects make long whining posts about how torps can only hit at very limited ranges and thus can justify their extreme damage since they only hit close range.Well this latest experience shows them to be wrong.
What is the point of flying turret battleships when torpedo ravens can hit for full damage at 150km and knock u out of warp into the bargain?
Where is the turret battleship that does the same damage at 150km as it does at 40km?
This is bull**** CCP sort it the **** out.
For some reason, I just can't see what the problem is. You got shot down, and we're all happy about it. Please continue with the current mode of operation.
Because I said so...
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Kaar
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
You got shot down, and we're all happy about it. Please continue with the current mode of operation.
QFT 
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Nar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:00:00 -
[6]
Haha, this thread made my day. 
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Electric Six
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:04:00 -
[7]
have some cheese!
Nice to see you getting a taste of your own medicing, lol, ya big stabbing, logging, newbganker! |
valerydarcy
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:09:00 -
[8]
PWND! lmao- quality.
Ravens 4tw! 
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Nidhoggur
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:19:00 -
[9]
...Why would someone do this to themselves?
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Phenom Fighter
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Phenom Fighter on 11/08/2006 15:19:46
dude, lagg man... blame it on the lagg 
Your overview might of been screwed ?? I dunno, but got nout to do with the raven, he was probs just laughing at you badly mate. gutted
EDIT: Are you suppose to be posting this in ships and fittings cat?
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DRMALIKIA
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:21:00 -
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HA HA HA!!!! I love the fact that no matter what, someone always grips about the other guy. Normally it is the missiles users whining because they can't instantly hit like turrets do, and now you have a turret user whining because he got hit by missiles.
Honestly it is nice for a change to hear it the other way around. Go RAVEN PWNAGE. This made my day as well.
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Levon Bedros
Caldari
Pokemons
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:23:00 -
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The Uber PvPer of Doom got killed, The omgwtfbestbbqer of all times got roasted?
This CAN NOT be!
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:23:00 -
[13]
I'm speechless. I really have nothing to say. I'm just laughing my head off.
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher
The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:27:00 -
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And you had how many warp core stabs?
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:28:00 -
[15]
Classic
<Hammerhead> TomB is doing the nerfing
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Eleni Shakira
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:31:00 -
[16]
I can cut the irony in this thread with floss.
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:45:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Matrix Aran
And you had how many warp core stabs?
I can only see 3 on the battleclinic killmail from yesterday, so some of them must have survived
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:00:00 -
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Btw torps dont bump you and stop you warping since about 2004/05.
What a muppet.
CEO - Art of War
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:17:00 -
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Looking for frentix? Mail me. |
Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:19:00 -
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ya good stuff here.
heard of the new t2 torps that go long range :P... duuuuu.
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:21:00 -
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Yes all have a good laugh.Only to be expected.But nevertheless i was bumped out of warp by these torpedos and it wasnt funny for me.I lost a full set of 425 tech 2 rails which arent cheap.
Its annoying niggles like this which spoil the game for many and they deserve either to be sorted out or posted about on patch notes so that all players can have access to the correct info about the game.
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fmercury
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:21:00 -
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I don't think you'll find much sympathy here.
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Deimos Dentel
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Yes all have a good laugh.Only to be expected.But nevertheless i was bumped out of warp by these torpedos and it wasnt funny for me.I lost a full set of 425 tech 2 rails which arent cheap.
And a full set of best named stabs by the looks of things. I bet those aren't cheap either.
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:26:00 -
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Torps DO NOT bump you and make you fail to warp, they "used" to yes, but not fo a LONG time, unless this happened about a year or more ago and you decided to post about it now.
Oh and those big balls of light traveling towards you ever so slowly from 200k, those are torps, best to warp BEFORE they hit you
CEO - Art of War
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:28:00 -
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since i plan to start training for a raven, its nice to know that there are still bugs like this one 
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CrayC
Gallente
CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:30:00 -
[26]
When I read the title of this topic, I was like "omg h4x".
Now I'm like "omg so what?"...
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:31:00 -
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Mate think before u post.My speed was almost at warp around 100m/s in a megathron without any speed boosters.AFter torpedos hit me the first time my speed fell back to 24m/s.How do u explain this?
No other ship was closer than 100km to me at the time also.And cloaked ships can neither bump u nor lock u without decloaking.
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Deimos Dentel
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:32:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Mate think before u post.My speed was almost at warp around 100m/s in a megathron without any speed boosters.AFter torpedos hit me the first time my speed fell back to 24m/s.How do u explain this?
Karma?
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:33:00 -
[29]
Lag spike?
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Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
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Dixon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dixon on 11/08/2006 16:35:25
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Mate think before u post.My speed was almost at warp around 100m/s in a megathron without any speed boosters.AFter torpedos hit me the first time my speed fell back to 24m/s.How do u explain this?
No other ship was closer than 100km to me at the time also.And cloaked ships can neither bump u nor lock u without decloaking.
karma...
EDIT: damn you Deimos Dentel!
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:36:00 -
[31]
;),
its lag dude,
just lag - :P
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Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Mujun Kross
Gallente
Vogon Deconstruction Fleet
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:39:00 -
[32]
Its not a bug...as usual when things go badly for ginger he comes on the forums and makes stuff up so that his story sounds better. The simple truth is he misjudged the torps as standards and did not realize that they were moving as fast as a cruise msl.
funny as hell to be honest
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
There are multiple reason why this happened:
- Lag
- Minmatar recon had you webbed
- Lag and torps bumped you
- Lag and damage got screwed and torps hit you for more than the usual damage
The last one happens pretty often to turrets users. They hit for normal damage and a second later they kill a freighter with 3-4 hits (Farjungs movie).
being webbed makes you warp faster
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Serna
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:43:00 -
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He's just ****ed because now he's actually the victim. heh
Oh and a day before this..
2006.08.08
Victim: Ginger Magician
Alliance: None
Corp: Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Destroyed: Megathron
System: Hagilur
Security: 0.4
Destroyed items:
Electron Blaster Cannon II
Electron Blaster Cannon II
Electron Blaster Cannon II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I
Large Armor Repairer II
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Electron Blaster Cannon II
Electron Blaster Cannon II
Sensor Booster II
Void L, Qty: 350 (Cargo)
Void L, Qty: 197
Void L, Qty: 197
Void L, Qty: 197
Void L, Qty: 197
2006.08.08
Victim: Ginger Magician
Alliance: None
Corp: Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Hagilur
Security: 0.4
2006.08.08
For your termination of Ginger Magician we have
paid you the bounty that was set to his head:
101,230,001 ISK
And if that wasn't bad enough, he tries to be brave with his alt i'm guessing..
2006.08.08 00:11:00
Victim: Sprungle Spormen
Alliance: None
Corp: Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Destroyed: Armageddon
System: Hagilur
Security: 0.4
Destroyed items:
'Accord' I Core Compensation
Small Shield Extender II (Cargo)
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I (Cargo)
Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 1000 (Cargo)
Uranium Charge S, Qty: 760 (Cargo)
Sensor Booster II
Tachyon Afocal Maser I
Tachyon Afocal Maser I
Tracking Computer II
Medium Anode Particle Stream I
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Microwave L (Cargo)
Microwave L (Cargo)
Microwave L (Cargo)
Radio L (Cargo)
Radio L (Cargo)
Radio L (Cargo)
Multifrequency L
Lead Charge S, Qty: 80 (Cargo)
Lead Charge S, Qty: 80 (Cargo)
Lead Charge S, Qty: 40 (Cargo)
Lead Charge S, Qty: 40 (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 42 (Cargo)
Sabretooth Light Missile, Qty: 300 (Cargo)
Sorry for such a long post.. just like seeing people get what they deserve. 
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Mate think before u post.My speed was almost at warp around 100m/s in a megathron without any speed boosters.AFter torpedos hit me the first time my speed fell back to 24m/s.How do u explain this?
No other ship was closer than 100km to me at the time also.And cloaked ships can neither bump u nor lock u without decloaking.
cloaked ship bumbed inbetween cloak cycles ... now thats some skills :)
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:47:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
How did you see your speed? Doesn't it just say "Warping"? Just curious.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Serna
Sorry for such a long post.. just like seeing people get what they deserve.
I'd wipe that, killmails aren't allowed on the forum.
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:53:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 11/08/2006 16:54:19
U can see your speed on the speedometer it only says warping when u reach warp speed.
And Sprungle is my apprentice not my alt.And yes I have suffered a few losses lately but I have also killed a lot too.C'est la vie.
U can ask The Imperial Commonwealth about those kills btw.They took rather a lot of em
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:06:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 11/08/2006 16:54:19
U can see your speed on the speedometer it only says warping when u reach warp speed.
And Sprungle is my apprentice not my alt.And yes I have suffered a few losses lately but I have also killed a lot too.C'est la vie.
U can ask The Imperial Commonwealth about those kills btw.They took rather a lot of em
it says Warping from the time you give the warp command till the warp ends. if you hover your mouse oveer the speed bar, then you see your actual speed in the readout.
btw you made thinkgs up or were no paying attention. there would be more ppl complaining if what you say were true ...
Originally by: JP Beauregard
The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls.... 
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Nebuli
Caldari
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:10:00 -
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Just out of interest has ANYONE else ever had (since it was removed) a torp bump them and make them suddenly slow down?
Couldnt begind to count the amount of torps I have been hit by, but NEVER had this happen, since it was fixed it simply doesnt happen anymore.
"IF" your speed did suddenly decrease it was NOT due to the missiles hitting you.
And please, if youre going to whine about something at least find something worthwhile and truthfull to complain about, seriously.
CEO - Art of War
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:14:00 -
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Used to think Ginger Magician was a bit of a git to be honest. However, now that he's posted this SOLELY for our amusement, I've decided there must be a least a BIT of a nice bloke about him...
...or at least a comedian.
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Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:21:00 -
[42]
torps dont bump. period.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:40:00 -
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while jave torps do seem a mite over powered (not much of a penalty in using them perhaps?) there is a turret version in tech2 ammo. Aurora for example, does the damage of gamma (second highest damage laser ammo) at ranges beyond radio (furthest range laser ammo) for penalty of sucky tracking, which doesnt matter much at range. So there is a turret BS that can do same damage at 150km as it does at 40km.
Originally by: Tuxford
Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us 
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:47:00 -
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Sucky tracking makes a hell of difference my friend.The damage will be considerably reduced compared to what u would normally do at close range u can be sure of that.And bad tracking makes small ships almost impossible to hit unless they are stationary.
I think that what happened to me may have been due to lag.There was a fair number of ships in this encounter and also fighter drones and there was lag.
The problem is that lag is never taken into account in server logs or petitions.All that happens is that they say "the logs accurately reflect waht happened in this combat"
but we all know that logs dont show lag so what?
Over the years i have lost a fair number of bs to lag and one pod so its been quite a painful experince for me.Carebears who only engage in combat once in a blue mooon can never understand what pvpers have to go through in this game.
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:04:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Carebears who only engage in combat once in a blue mooon can never understand what pvpers have to go through in this game.
And PVPers who decide to engage targets at ranges under 150KM without 8 warpcore stabs can only laugh at that statement. I'm sorry Ginger but when you get torpedoed at 150km you just deserve to be laughed at
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:05:00 -
[46]
You got ownt :D
stop complaining allready ^^
Originally by: The Wizz117
jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:33:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
<Original (first) post>
You were most probably desynced. A Megathron with no nanofibers takes about 12 seconds with perfect skills to get to warp from 0 m/s to 85% speed, assuming alignment is not needed. In this time the two Megathrons hitting you should be able to cycle at least 3 volleys. The only odd thing is that the really messy killmail found on Battle Clinic would have us believe the Raven did most damage.
Regardless, assuming that the two unaccounted for low slots did not contain any 1600mm plates (in which case the speed-up process would actually take longer) and that they didn't quite start doing damage before the first volley of torps hit - they should be able to kill you before you're up to warp speed.
There is nothing strange about this. The only thing strange is the way your client reacted to the hits, but my guess is that the speed-down you experienced was in fact you entering your pod with graphics and stuff stuttering from desync. It happens.
In this patch, torps don't even bump my interceptors more than a few millimeters per second.
Dark skies torn apart
Heavens open before me
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Wireknight
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:53:00 -
[48]
Oh man, EVE 2006 really *is* a disaster for you!
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Gredgelock
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:54:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Its annoying niggles like this which spoil the game for many
change your pad and get over it.. lost an apoc with named repairer and named hardeners. not to mention all the tachs i had from a corp mate shootin a sentery on a lvl 4 extraviganza. could not warp for 3 min while getting hit.. dont see me crying. its a game with monopoly money.
Baby
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Eepzy Nimbles
Nimbles Covenant
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:55:00 -
[50]
I've had this happen to me before (although no missiles were involved). It is lag.
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M00dy
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:58:00 -
[51]
Could of been a corpse.
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Foulis
Minmatar
Chosen Path
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:59:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: murder one
You got shot down, and we're all happy about it. Please continue with the current mode of operation.
QFT
/signed
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Cake > Pie - Imaran
Cathath > Imaran - Cathath
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Boobies
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Archilies
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:02:00 -
[53]
hold up!
What were you doing in a fleet engagement?
Recruitment Thread
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Xendie
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:06:00 -
[54]
lol couldnt have happened to a more deserving person
Quote:
Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:21:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Yes all have a good laugh.Only to be expected.But nevertheless i was bumped out of warp by these torpedos and it wasnt funny for me.I lost a full set of 425 tech 2 rails which arent cheap.
Its annoying niggles like this which spoil the game for many and they deserve either to be sorted out or posted about on patch notes so that all players can have access to the correct info about the game.
Mehehehehhe....
Mehehehehehe! Awwh, poor baby.
Dont fly what you cant afford to lose. Dont cry about it when you do. File a bug report if your that arsed about it, but dont post on the general forums, you jus get laughed at.
Izo Azlion.
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:37:00 -
[56]
Put a torp launcher on your mega Ginger then you can 'warp scramble' them whilst sniping!
I taught darth everything he knows.
Including the velcro boots trick.
dbp
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:45:00 -
[57]
Geez that lost couldn't have cost you more 100M ISK, quit whining =/
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Carnye Dubro
Caldari
Legion Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:48:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Archilies
hold up!
What were you doing in a fleet engagement?
lol... it sounds more like the fleet was engaging HIM...
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Eudyptes sclateri
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:01:00 -
[59]
Originally by: M00dy
Could of been a corpse.
That made me laugh. Reminded me of the story about a covert ops ship that got decloaked by a corpse.
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MrCjEvans
Caldari
Shinra
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:04:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
It seems that raven pilots no longer need to fit warp scramblers to their ships.
Yesterday during a fleet engagement I was engaging multiple targets approx 120-130km away from the gate.A raven using javelin bane torpedos fired 2 volleys on me or more.The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.The whole time these missiles were hitting me i was engaged to warp having started to warp from an aligned postion but not at max speed prior to the first volley of torpedos hitting me.
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven.
Whenever posts are made about the overpowerment of torpedo ravens the usual suspects make long whining posts about how torps can only hit at very limited ranges and thus can justify their extreme damage since they only hit close range.Well this latest experience shows them to be wrong.
What is the point of flying turret battleships when torpedo ravens can hit for full damage at 150km and knock u out of warp into the bargain?
Where is the turret battleship that does the same damage at 150km as it does at 40km?
This is bull**** CCP sort it the **** out.
Its just your lack of experience mate, i would put money on the torps bumped you, why on earth you waited for the first lot of torps to hit you if you was primary i have no idea.
Primary - as in you would have seen them all with red boxes around then as to tell you they had initiated hostile actions, as soon as the turret ships hit you, you should have done one.
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Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:08:00 -
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TORPS DONT BUMP.
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Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:13:00 -
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you need to read what you posted.
First you say "The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.", then you say "I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven."
Which is it, a torpedo raven or multiple BS's? And I have news for you, 150km is nothing now.
A megathron slinging spike has an optimal range of 208 km, effective of over 230 if you are competent with railguns (I am and I'm only about 1.1 years old). Ravens with tech ii torps have less range and the torps travel 6km/s so the death happens much faster. I am pretty sure a raven can hit from even further than 150 with tech ii gear.
A tech 1 megathron has > 150km range and can do quite a bit of damage with some magfield stab II's. The sniping tech ii megathron has a dps higher than almost any other ship though it has some other issues, like very low punch.
Raven is not an I-Win button. You need to re-examine your tactics, like taking on multiple BS by yourself. That's pretty fsking stupid.
Oh, by the way, sometimes even you will lose a fight in PvP. Get used to it. If you beat multiple BS by yourself, I'd get concerned that maybe what you fly is overpowered.
-Kal
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Kyguard
LFC
3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:14:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Double TaP
TORPS DONT BUMP.
Yes they do, Ginger died and Ginger can't die without it being a SPLOITZ!
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Kyguard
LFC
3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:18:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Fuglife
Put a torp launcher on your mega Ginger then you can 'warp scramble' them whilst sniping!
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Zed Nash
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:20:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
It seems that raven pilots no longer need to fit warp scramblers to their ships.
Yesterday during a fleet engagement I was engaging multiple targets approx 120-130km away from the gate.A raven using javelin bane torpedos fired 2 volleys on me or more.The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.The whole time these missiles were hitting me i was engaged to warp having started to warp from an aligned postion but not at max speed prior to the first volley of torpedos hitting me.
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven.
Whenever posts are made about the overpowerment of torpedo ravens the usual suspects make long whining posts about how torps can only hit at very limited ranges and thus can justify their extreme damage since they only hit close range.Well this latest experience shows them to be wrong.
What is the point of flying turret battleships when torpedo ravens can hit for full damage at 150km and knock u out of warp into the bargain?
Where is the turret battleship that does the same damage at 150km as it does at 40km?
This is bull**** CCP sort it the **** out.
No sympathy.......
You know what's BS? A stabbed out Mega sniping newbies at gates that turns tail and runs whenever anyone even remotely competent comes along.
You got caught, your stab-whoring didn't save you this time. Poor you.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:22:00 -
[66]
LMAO sooo hard right now!!! MUHAHA
I think caps is useful at times like these.
Careful ginger - dont want to end up drunk from all that whine :) Might lose concentration .
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uraniumcore1
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:36:00 -
[67]
ginger
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:40:00 -
[68]
Can we get this stickied?
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Misinformed soldier
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:40:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Carebears who only engage in combat once in a blue mooon can never understand what pvpers have to go through in this game.
You got your arse handed to you, deal with it without the "OMFG 27 space mermaids tricked me and blew me up in warp!!11!!111!!11oneelevenoneeleven."
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:43:00 -
[70]
Hey kids! It's cool to have a go at Ginger Magician!
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babylonstew
Caldari
Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:44:00 -
[71]
if he was using defenders it could have dropped his speed, has done so to me in the past.
and lmao, sniper raven kills mega T lol
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Cetshwayo
Fortunis Novum
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:45:00 -
[72]
For more ****s and giggles, please tell us about the time with the invincible Assault Frigate again?
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tilt sedron
Caldari
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:52:00 -
[73]
Edited by: tilt sedron on 11/08/2006 20:55:05
Is it possible that you are complaining about my Raven?
Quote:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=corp&name=mentally%20unstable%20enterprises&id=508917&page=1&filter=losses#mail
So you have never heared anything about long range T2 Torps ?
Torps that lower your speed ... that's ridiculus. You must have lowered your speed yourself.
No I don't have the new scrambling and webing torpedos yet.
But I guess with all those warp core stabs you are using, not even the scrambling torps can scramble you.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:53:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Waxau on 11/08/2006 20:53:45
oooh i havent heard about the assault frig story : whats that about?
*Waxau sits down in the circle
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Sanctus Gabriel
Mordu's Elite
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:55:00 -
[75]
too damn funny
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:07:00 -
[76]
a couple of ginger posts, including the invincible AF one. Easy to find, just look for the subjects that are all in CAPS.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=286866
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=225417
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=153976
and yes the tracking penalty sucks on tech2 turret ammo. thats why you switch if they get close....
Originally by: Tuxford
Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
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Cetshwayo
Fortunis Novum
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:09:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Waxau
Edited by: Waxau on 11/08/2006 20:53:45
oooh i havent heard about the assault frig story : whats that about?
*Waxau sits down in the circle
The one I remember (there might be another one as this one happened to my gang and I) is when me and another corpmate in regular T1 cruisers and my ex-CEO in his Ishkur went for a pirating rampage. We came across Ginger in his Raven. Our little gang got him (after him warping all over the place naturally ) but he made my and my corpmate in our cruisers warp out.
My ex-CEO proceeded to kill the Raven with his Ishkur. I think at some point another Raven came by and proceeded to lay into Ginger as well after he made the cruisers warp out but he kept shooting the Ishkur rather than the other Raven. Try as he might have, Ginger could not beat it down. He then went on the forums about it I believe.
There might be another story as I've heard of the "invincible Assault ship" before then but this one I remember because it made my corp laugh their arses off.
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tilt sedron
Caldari
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:11:00 -
[78]
[WTS] 1000 units of WX-9000 Javelin Long Range Webbing Scrambling "Freezer" Torpedos
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:12:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Waxau on 11/08/2006 21:14:04
Ah thanks - printing em out into a story book atm.
The kids in the corp will love these when it comes to story time
oh and to stay on topic:
' lol '
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:32:00 -
[80]
Its not our fault you SUCK!
learn2play.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:34:00 -
[81]
Originally by: IizzaBatch
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Trevedian
Amarr
KR0M
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:36:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Nahia Senne
since i plan to start training for a raven, its nice to know that there are still bugs like this one
There is no bug, Ginger always makes whiny posts like this...
After spending the day shooting haulers and noobships someone fires back and kills him... These are SLOW, SLOW, moving torps that kill him from 125 km away... He says "OMG I'm gonna petition" and makes up a story to support his petition to help get his ship and his 425mm II's back, truly pathetic...
When you look bad, don't make urself look worse 
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Ether Bunny
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Posted - 2006.08.11 21:46:00 -
[83]
LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME NOOB
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Radcjk
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:15:00 -
[84]
So ok..laughs and jokes aside, sniper love vs sniper hatred, missle love vissle turret love, etc... any one considerd "Ship out of control" ?
Check the combat log or consider how much damage you took in a volley bro. I know its happened to my cormorant PvE as a newb when I got swamped by rats and in PvP when a caracal took massive damage from a Prophecy BC and an Armageddon BS. So much damage, so quickly, and you're screwed for a good few seconds.
Considering you were in a sniping battleship, which rarely have large tanks on them, I wouldnt be surprised if you lost control of the ship mate.
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Arkanor
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:21:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Yes all have a good laugh.Only to be expected.But nevertheless i was bumped out of warp by these torpedos and it wasnt funny for me.I lost a full set of 425 tech 2 rails which arent cheap.
I love when gatesnipers complain about stuff they lost.
Originally by: Ghosthowl
WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face.
Originally by: HippoKing
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Zed Nash
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Posted - 2006.08.11 22:37:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Radcjk
Considering you were in a sniping battleship, which rarely have large tanks on them, I wouldnt be surprised if you lost control of the ship mate.
Check the killmail.........
His "tank" consisted of a single large repper, completely unhardened and unplated, there were too many stabs to fit much else.........
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Gail Porter
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Posted - 2006.08.11 23:18:00 -
[87]
Originally by: uraniumcore1
ginger
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Drevonion
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Posted - 2006.08.11 23:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
It seems that raven pilots no longer need to fit warp scramblers to their ships.
Yesterday during a fleet engagement I was engaging multiple targets approx 120-130km away from the gate.A raven using javelin bane torpedos fired 2 volleys on me or more.The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.The whole time these missiles were hitting me i was engaged to warp having started to warp from an aligned postion but not at max speed prior to the first volley of torpedos hitting me.
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven.
Whenever posts are made about the overpowerment of torpedo ravens the usual suspects make long whining posts about how torps can only hit at very limited ranges and thus can justify their extreme damage since they only hit close range.Well this latest experience shows them to be wrong.
What is the point of flying turret battleships when torpedo ravens can hit for full damage at 150km and knock u out of warp into the bargain?
Where is the turret battleship that does the same damage at 150km as it does at 40km?
This is bull**** CCP sort it the **** out.
Same frakking thing happened to me and my rapier a few weeks ago, should have been able to get out no sweat!! but the damn missle**** me once, then i hit warp, and couldnt warp, at 120+ which is bogus!
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Dethis
Caldari
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.08.12 00:29:00 -
[89]
IBTL
Haha this thread is great
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Clementina
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.08.12 00:54:00 -
[90]
I wish I could buy Ginger Magician for what he's worth....
And sell him for what he thinks he's worth.
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Arushia
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Posted - 2006.08.12 01:15:00 -
[91]
Congrats to M'8'S on the kill.
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Hellraiza666
Regeneration
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.12 01:15:00 -
[92]
Was an AF involved?
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Mr Sokoloff
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Posted - 2006.08.12 01:19:00 -
[93]
lol man =) Thats Javelin L ammo that owned you
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Kai Jyokoroi
133rd Ghost Wing
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.12 02:48:00 -
[94]
Haha, this guy is my new hero. I've just checked out all his threads and let's face it, he's a living legend.
When someone with more than 100k SP ACTUALLY FIGHTS HIM he ends up with sand in his vagina, leaving him irritable and grumpy.
Poor Ginger, want a huggle? Or 3 recon ships uncloaking right in front of you to bump you out of alignment and then putting 9 points on you to make you stop constantly whining? I can arrange either!
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:16:00 -
[95]
"Warping" shows in the speedo from as soon as you activate warp (well it does for me ). If you can see your speed, you aren't warping.
Sounds like somebody got pwned.
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Xirtic Emarfatem
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:17:00 -
[96]
LOL
Most fun I have had or seen in Eve Online forums ever...
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Miklos Atreides
Gallente
Dire Trucking
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:21:00 -
[97]
Whats that I hear? It's a WAAAAAAHHHHMBULANCE
the dominix can do this. but the fitting required is classified =p
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Soviet Orelius
Caldari
Dire Trucking
9th Fleet
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:23:00 -
[98]
Ouch man. They need to fix this ASAP so we can kill you more often.
-Balance and Order-
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Djinn StarScream
Liberty Rogues
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:25:00 -
[99]
 I would have been embaraced from that kill mail.. I mean come on, snipe 170k from gates in Dud and Hag and you actually have to fit a minimum of 3 halycon Warp Core Stabalizers...
LOSER...
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:27:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Sivona on 12/08/2006 03:27:49
Ginger engaged something that wasn't a shuttle?
Oh well back to the shuttle gankage then i guess based on this performance
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TJ HUNT
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Posted - 2006.08.12 03:30:00 -
[101]
Edited by: TJ HUNT on 12/08/2006 03:34:39
Yes this is TJ Hunt. I have hunted and killed Ginger a few times. When he dies he blaims it on the game or warping or how somethings unfair, BULL. Ginger just addmit it when you get killed when you come on here to cry about it, it doesent make you look any better than you already are.
I do agree he is very smart and stealthy however, It takes maybe 10 seconds or longer for torps to go 140k. That is your own bad if you cant get out =P
"As far as why cant turrets hit for the same close as they can far away?"
Ok if you want this then i want torps to hit instantly and still hit while your in warp.... Exactly.
Ginger your a great fighter but dont make a excuse when you get powned, because trust me; it will happen over and over and over again =) Everyone seems to love you....
My honest oppinion only reason your hard to kill is because you shoot from 140K out =) why dont you say it to my face =P
my 2 cents
TJ Hunt
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Recruitor Man
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Posted - 2006.08.12 04:10:00 -
[102]
Ouch No respect 2yrs ago. and Still no Respect today. Ginger Man. Maybe it's time to hang up your warpcore stabbing and sniping ways. And maybe build some kind of long range mining lasers. That way it will remind you of the good old days.
 
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50freefly
Caldari
Purify
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Posted - 2006.08.12 04:15:00 -
[103]
It's just CCP's way of saying 'You suck'.
Originally by: Eight Ace
For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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BustyBounty
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.12 04:21:00 -
[104]
Originally by: jamesw
"Warping" shows in the speedo from as soon as you activate warp (well it does for me ). If you can see your speed, you aren't warping.
Sounds like somebody got pwned.
maybe he hovered the cursor over where you set max speed?
dont post stupid comments if you dont know what your talking about
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Hanns
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.12 05:59:00 -
[105]
Dont sweat it m8, pick yourself up and brush off the dust this kinda thing happens in eve, just think of all the pople you killed who were like "omg i was so into warp when ginger killed me" its all swings and roundabouts, it was probably just lag, mount of times ive died to lag is stupid, and i got podded by NPC's which is even worse!
Originally by: Tuxford
a new retribution bonus. +1 med slot per level
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Duradam
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.12 06:03:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Hanns
just think of all the pople you killed who were like "omg i was so into warp when ginger killed me"
But this is diffrent. I've only lost shuttles and haulers to Ginger, now he's lost a real ship! omg!
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jamesw
Omniscient Order
Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.08.12 06:12:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 11/08/2006 16:54:19
U can see your speed on the speedometer it only says warping when u reach warp speed.
Originally by: BustyBounty
Originally by: jamesw
"Warping" shows in the speedo from as soon as you activate warp (well it does for me ). If you can see your speed, you aren't warping.
Sounds like somebody got pwned.
maybe he hovered the cursor over where you set max speed?
dont post stupid comments if you dont know what your talking about
likewise
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TuRtLe HeAd
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.12 07:48:00 -
[108]
Im with Ginger,
Thats lame
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50freefly
Caldari
Purify
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Posted - 2006.08.12 08:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Im with Ginger,
Thats lame
I'm with lag.
Ginger's lame.
Originally by: Eight Ace
For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Crellion
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.12 10:05:00 -
[110]
Tux said in LA that if you reproduce the name GM by your initials or other part of your name in a way that can confuse (potentially) n00bs other than yourself then the value <[heals your speed to 24]> is entered when you are hit by tech II torps.
At the time I thought it was a pleasantry... now I am not so sure...
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:03:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Franky B on 12/08/2006 11:03:15
when ginger joined mental, I never new he had such an awesome fan club.
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xEntriq
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:04:00 -
[112]
Awww, your 7 warpcore stabs and logoff tactics didn't save you this time? Waa-waa 
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Logan Xerxes
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:09:00 -
[113]
Ginger just wants some love and we all love CCP don't we?
"Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confusion."
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The Champion
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:21:00 -
[114]
Edited by: The Champion on 12/08/2006 11:21:57
I bet he hit a corpse :)
and if it was mine iam happy about it :P
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Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.12 11:37:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 12/08/2006 11:41:54
This story made me remember this story.
Not having the I-Win button must suck for you.
For the dangerous big bad player that you are, you can't even take a loss, you have to stop and whine, "wait, i am uber, it must be something else, maybe the player was a hax, maybe the game just hates me, or maybe there were pixies on the wing of my mega ripping my structure".
If you're 12 year old, it's the age, but if you are a grown adult ... it's just sad.
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.12 12:35:00 -
[116]
LOL.A lot of love in this thread
This one must be close to the record. Well life goes on and I am not gonna bother petitioning this loss cause I never get anytbing back when it comes to combat.
Possibly it was just lag/bug or soemthing but there is no doubt that my speed dropped back for some unknown reason and I was neither scrambled nor webbed and at least 20-30seconds elapsed between iniating warp and the destruction of my fine mega.I guess it goes down as one of those unexplsined losses.
Anyway Kills 7000 LOsses maybe 200
Not bad for a warp core *****.
GM out./o
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.12 12:41:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Kaleeb on 12/08/2006 12:44:01
Originally by: Nebuli
Just out of interest has ANYONE else ever had (since it was removed) a torp bump them and make them suddenly slow down?
Couldnt begind to count the amount of torps I have been hit by, but NEVER had this happen, since it was fixed it simply doesnt happen anymore.
"IF" your speed did suddenly decrease it was NOT due to the missiles hitting you.
And please, if youre going to whine about something at least find something worthwhile and truthfull to complain about, seriously.
Yes i`ve been torp bumbed several times over the last few months, while I have never seen my speed drop it often slows my alignment
Originally by: DB Preacher
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Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.12 13:30:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 12/08/2006 13:31:59
Originally by: Ginger Magician
LOL.A lot of love in this thread
This one must be close to the record. Well life goes on and I am not gonna bother petitioning this loss cause I never get anytbing back when it comes to combat.
Possibly it was just lag/bug or soemthing but there is no doubt that my speed dropped back for some unknown reason and I was neither scrambled nor webbed and at least 20-30seconds elapsed between iniating warp and the destruction of my fine mega.I guess it goes down as one of those unexplsined losses.
Anyway Kills 7000 LOsses maybe 200
Not bad for a warp core *****.
GM out./o
Not losing ships to shuttles and n00b ships is really not rocket science.
Having 12-15 sniping points, staying warp aligned and warping at the first sign of trouble is not skill either.
You can say whatever you want, but there is no skill in what you do, so don't whine when you sometimes bite the bullet.
You are no uber pvp-er, you're just a character with 15 mil SP in gunnery that takes great pleasure in popping shuttles 150km away.
The range sucks and you're choice of targets sucks too.
In one of you're former threads i seem to recall how an AF was breaking you're tank because you had him webbed and you were orbiting him while firing heavy blasters in a Megathron. This says everything about you're skill - or better said lack off.
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IamBen
Caldari
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.12 14:13:00 -
[119]
Wait the "best pvper" in eve (according to your bio) got shot down. Uh oh sky falling down.
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Outcast Secundus
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Posted - 2006.08.12 14:50:00 -
[120]
can we get this stickyed?
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nahtoh
Caldari
Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.12 14:57:00 -
[121]
Ah I see the ginger whinger comedy club is doing another outting
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Rofl Waffles
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Posted - 2006.08.13 00:16:00 -
[122]
lol, I see Ginger as the counter-strike "pro" of EvE. WTF WTF WTF I DIED HAXSPLOITS!!!!111!!11 I hate the "pros" that think they should be impossible to kill and if they die it is a hack, exploit, or bug.
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Wispy
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.08.13 01:18:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Outcast Secundus
can we get this stickyed?
I thought long and hard about that, but decided to lock it as an off-topic rant that should have been petitioned or bug reported instead of brought to the forums.
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