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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2003.10.17 10:55:00 -
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lvl 4 social, 20 charisma, awesome lvl 3 agent. Miner 2 BP mission in 253 missions. cheers :)
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Zvavos d'long
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Posted - 2003.10.17 11:37:00 -
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Way to go dude.
Oh my god they killed - Zvavos
Quote: No one can hear your screams in space
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.10.17 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tharrn on 17/10/2003 11:56:01 Fudge. My Charisma is at 8 (with an Implant), my Social skill at 1 and my agent is (+19% +10%). I bet when I am at mission 620 the system will change and they'll all not count...
Edit: Corp standing at 5.6
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Pirindolo
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Posted - 2003.10.17 13:55:00 -
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hum...what about those people who have completed 400 or 500 missions, with 15+ charisma, 4+ social, amazing standings with the agent, his corp and his faction, and didn't get any BP yet??????????
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2003.10.17 14:09:00 -
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well as people already said before in this thread, any missions completed before about the time of the patch that introduced the implants don't seem to count towards getting a BP . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Coldfire
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Posted - 2003.10.17 17:07:00 -
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how many missions for me with a lvl 3 agent with +4 standing, my charisma is 15 and social is 4
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.17 18:14:00 -
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Social skill lvl5 charisma 20, how about that blueprint?
Convert Stations
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2003.10.18 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sabahl on 18/10/2003 01:09:17 As Morkt pointed out on the channel a few days ago the formula is simply this...
20 / (faction standing increase per mission)
So the best way to find out how many missions you require is to see how much your faction standing increases over about 10 missions (either with faction or with your corporation so you are screwed if you have maxed both already), average it down to standing increase per mission and divide it into twenty. Bingo, you get your result.
Just about worked for me with a 0.073 increase per mission. My agent gave me my Miner 2 BP tonight at mission 274.
And here's soemthing interesting. I don't thinki Charisma does have an effect unless it is a static calculation done by the system when attempting to determine if it should give you a certain mission at a certain number o completions. Why? Because I plugged in a Cha +3 implant at 50 missions completed and I don;t believe the faction increase per mission changed at all.
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Antoinette
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Posted - 2003.10.18 11:58:00 -
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Quote:
20 / (faction standing increase per mission)
oh really, good to know.
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Just about worked for me with a 0.073 increase per mission. My agent gave me my Miner 2 BP tonight at mission 274.
why is my faction standing only increase by 0.024 every mission (measured over 5 missions, only though) ? I have social 4, charisma 10+3, faction is republic, corp republic fleet, the agent is a L3 -15%, and my faction standing was at 4.24 at the start.
it's a huge difference, too huge to be just random.. and if it means everything is gonna be 3 times slower for me than it was for you, it's too unfair
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And here's soemthing interesting. I don't thinki Charisma does have an effect ... Why? Because I plugged in a Cha +3 implant at 50 missions completed and I don;t believe the faction increase per mission changed at all.
but a few percents boost (e.g. +3 / 20 = 15%) could be hard to detect on just 10 missions. (or, there could be bloody rounding taking place somewhere that makes everything happen in steps..) |
Camar
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Posted - 2003.10.18 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Camar on 18/10/2003 17:31:21 If that formula was right, I'd be looking at 400+ missions to get that bp-mission.
But got mine at 272 mission...
My stats was; Charisma 15 (+3 implant) Social 4 Agentquality -14%
...and with the light all life vanished... |
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2003.10.18 21:24:00 -
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Camar - And what was your faction increase per mission? All those stats you posted are irrelevent.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.10.19 18:05:00 -
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My agent standing was maxed out after 5 missions, what are you saying, this would be a bad thing?
Convert Stations
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Camar
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Posted - 2003.10.19 18:44:00 -
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I got about 0.01-0.03 for each mission...
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Julius Caligari
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Posted - 2003.10.19 21:02:00 -
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Got my BP at mission 262. No idea what my factional gain was though.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.19 23:16:00 -
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Quote: I got about 0.01-0.03 for each mission...
That's "faction standing"
You need "agent-standing" which we believe to be roughly equivalent to Corp-standing.
20/agent-standing per mission (or corp-standing per mission)
Problem is that most people max their corp standing at the cap (2x agent level) before they tend to keep track of the increase.
once you are at corp-standing 6 for your level 3 agent you cant work it out anymore as it wont rise again (its capped).
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.10.20 00:51:00 -
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Morkt any idea if the agent's quality (-17% to +17%) changes the amount of corp rating u gain ? cause with social 4 and charisma 14 i get +0.06 per mission from my lvl 3 (poor quality) minmi agent :/
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.20 00:53:00 -
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Just the standing rating as far as we could tell.
Quality didnt seem to affect anything other than ISK reward value from what i can tell.
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Camar
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Posted - 2003.10.20 02:49:00 -
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Ah, sorry Morkt.
Well, after I had declined one mission it would drop to around 5.94.
In general I gained about 0.4 - 0.5/mission.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.20 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 20/10/2003 03:01:30
Quote: Ah, sorry Morkt.
Well, after I had declined one mission it would drop to around 5.94.
In general I gained about 0.4 - 0.5/mission.
You got more than that
we think the minimum you can get is 0.4.
ATEOTD is a bit redundant now as the new mission system is different...
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Attica
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Posted - 2003.10.20 03:02:00 -
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I just got my agent BP reward at mission 258. The agent had no rating such as abysmal or good etc etc. she was just a good agent when I started and I worked her up to Excellent which is as far as she is going to go I think. I have charisma 17 and social 5. I had social 5 before I started with her and got charisma to 17 by about the 120th mission. Hope this helps.
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Camar
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Posted - 2003.10.20 11:47:00 -
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Well, since I can't really remember I won't say for sure, but I do know he gave me very little each time.
I even talked to other players about it and was getting a bit confused about they gaining that much etc etc.
But still, according to a friend who calculated it he was off by 3.8 mission. (Calculations said 268.2)
...and with the light all life vanished... |
Desius
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Posted - 2003.10.21 04:08:00 -
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hmmmm... There has to be some way to figure out the faction gain by using the charisma, social skills, and perhaps agent standing?
I'm one of those people who didn't read this message until I had already maxed out my agent at 10% personal agent faction and 6.0 corporate faction. and that was somewhere around mission #50-60 for him. (started at 4.0 from my level 2 agent's cap)
If I remember correctly the faction gains weren't linear either... they started fairly small and increased as the agent's faction (the one that caps at 10% went up) I've failed one mission due to a bug and it dropped me from 6.0 to 5.92 - the next mission raised me to 5.96, and then somewhere at or above 6.0 so I'm just stuck guessing at this point. (not a big enough data set to figure anything precice)
The only thing I could infer so far would be the number of missions it took to cap at 6.0 originally... 50 missions would be at the .04 range... 60 would've been the 0.0333_ if it was 0.04 - I can look forward to having to do @500 missions???? someone please tell me I'm figuring this wrong. I'd like a chance at an original miner2 BP before they disappear.
for anyone trying to figure gains and for what it's worth, my charisma is 11, social skill 3, agent is +19%/+10% now
someone give me some insights here
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Desius
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Posted - 2003.10.21 22:48:00 -
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Well for some reason my charisma went from 11 to 15 when I plugged in an implant. (see above post) will this maybe lower the number of missions I need to complete to get a blueprint?
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