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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.06 12:13:00 -
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The new developer site is now live and running! If you're a third party developer then you'll want to keep an eye on this site in the future. Read all about it here. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3533
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Posted - 2014.10.06 12:46:00 -
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As a note, the developers license is placeholder while on Sisi. We will have that when we go to TQ. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @CCP_FoxFour |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.06 13:23:00 -
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nom nom nom! Looking forward to checking this stuff out when I don't have to work!
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.06 13:47:00 -
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When logging into the developers site if you get told your account is not valid please check you have verified your email address, even if you think you have please double check.
To check if your email address is verified please go to: https://secure.eveonline.com/AccountManMenu.aspx
You should see a green check mark by your email address. If you do NOT see that, go here: https://secure.eveonline.com/EditAccountInfo.aspx and click the Verify e-mail address button.
Then try logging into the developers site again.
If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card? CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @CCP_FoxFour |
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Bloemkoolsaus
Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.10.06 14:01:00 -
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I was starting to get excited!!
But then;
CCP FoxFour wrote:If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?
I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen
Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us! |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3536
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Posted - 2014.10.06 14:03:00 -
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Bloemkoolsaus wrote:I was starting to get excited!! But then; CCP FoxFour wrote:If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card? I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us!
This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :( CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @CCP_FoxFour |
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Darkblad
Hilfe is like free Entertainment
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Posted - 2014.10.06 14:08:00 -
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http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=developers.testeveonline.com
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EMT Holding
EMT Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.06 14:32:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Bloemkoolsaus wrote:I was starting to get excited!! But then; CCP FoxFour wrote:If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card? I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us! This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :( Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development? |
Fireborn ETF
Ida Tech
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Posted - 2014.10.06 14:58:00 -
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Great work guys!
Can we maybe have Callback URL setting as a list of allowed callback URLs, so we can use different callbacks for different oauth token request scenarios?
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CCP raRaRa
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.06 15:13:00 -
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Darkblad wrote:http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=developers.testeveonline.com Sad Panda
No need for sad panda!
I went to CCP Tier's desk and this is what I found on his screen:
CCP raRaRa // [url]http://twitter.com/ccp_rarara[/url] Web Developer |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3536
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Posted - 2014.10.06 15:16:00 -
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Fireborn ETF wrote:Great work guys! Can we maybe have Callback URL setting as a list of allowed callback URLs, so we can use different callbacks for different oauth token request scenarios?
Unfortunately no, if you really do need multiple callback URLs you will need to create multiple client IDs.
There are other options however. We do NOT strip out extra URL parameters. So you could include an extra parameter to indicate a proper redirection. The state parameter is also available. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @CCP_FoxFour |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
3536
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Posted - 2014.10.06 15:16:00 -
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EMT Holding wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Bloemkoolsaus wrote:I was starting to get excited!! But then; CCP FoxFour wrote:If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card? I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us! This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :( Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development? EDIT: I did have a credit card assigned to my account but since I started paying with PLEX, that information was removed as I "cancelled" the recurring payment. Are you now indicating that I have to add this information back on for a month and leave it just to see whatever is hidden behind your application management page?
Having used a credit card in the past should be all you need. Even having just bought a PLEX instead of subscription should be enough. CCP FoxFour // Game Designer // @CCP_FoxFour |
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1124
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Posted - 2014.10.06 15:56:00 -
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EMT Holding wrote: Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development?
I think that the reason is quite simple.
If the account you're using has a transaction with a credit card then they can claim that they at least have a theoretical legal ability to know who you are.
Which in turn makes life much easier for the Devs in their conversation with the legal team.
At least that's my somewhat qualified guess ;)
CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
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Jezza McWaffle
Pandora Sphere Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.10.06 15:57:00 -
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Why is a credit card required instead of a debit card or alternative form of online payment like Paypal? Its a stupid idea. C6 Wormhole blog http://holelotofwaffle.wordpress.com/ |
Althalus Stenory
Flying Blacksmiths
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:09:00 -
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this... rocks ? Oh god, there are no words to say it with enough strength lol :D :D :D *excited*
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1124
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:20:00 -
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Jezza McWaffle wrote:Why is a credit card required instead of a debit card or alternative form of online payment like Paypal? Its a stupid idea. Debit could work, but not paypal since it's not trackable.
edit: 'legally trackable' CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
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Kossaw
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:22:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card?
Great, I happen to have a credit card and yes I've paid you with it ...
But I fail to say ANY valid reason why you should demand that I have one so that I can use this site. Not everyone has a credit card, and there are some pretty valid reasons for not having one. Already on day one somebody has hit this issue.
Please explain. WTB : An image in my signature |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:30:00 -
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umm... Whee!
https://github.com/fuzzysteve/eve-sso-auth
May be of interest to people. Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1125
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:31:00 -
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Kossaw wrote:
But I fail to say ANY valid reason why you should demand that I have one so that I can use this site.
It's very simple. They want to know who you are before your get full access. Linking an account to a credit card is the easiest way to do this.
And if they want to have this information out, without having to develop a more complex solution, this is the way.
CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
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EMT Holding
EMT Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:31:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:EMT Holding wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Bloemkoolsaus wrote:I was starting to get excited!! But then; CCP FoxFour wrote:If you still cannot log into the developers site, have you paid us at least once with a credit card? I don't have a creditcard, and I am not going to get one. Creditcards are (at least in my country) expensive and clumsy in comparison with other (more modern) methods of online payment. Just having one costs me money, even when I don't use it. I have no need for a creditcard so getting one just for this is silly for me, and thus that won't happen Does this mean I will not be able to get access to this, or is it a temporary requirement? I make and run quite a few applications for my alliance and the features planned for the SSO and CREST would be really really really useful to us! This requirement is not going away. Sorry. :( Why? What reason do you have for requiring a valid credit card for 3rd party development? EDIT: I did have a credit card assigned to my account but since I started paying with PLEX, that information was removed as I "cancelled" the recurring payment. Are you now indicating that I have to add this information back on for a month and leave it just to see whatever is hidden behind your application management page? Having used a credit card in the past should be all you need. Even having just bought a PLEX instead of subscription should be enough. Turns out the account I was trying to use it on has never had a credit card tied to it. Activated with a GTC and then always "paid" with PLEX. Tried another account that does have a CC linked and that worked fine.
As Kossaw said though, I fail to see any good reason why you're demanding the use of a credit card before being allowed access to whatever dev tools you'll hide behind it. |
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.06 16:33:00 -
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Added developers.testeveonline.com to my RSS reader. (yes, i'm old fashioned, wanna fight about it)
Happy to hear that CCP is shifting CCP Foxfour to do API stuff full-time, too! This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Kossaw
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.06 17:54:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:Kossaw wrote:
But I fail to say ANY valid reason why you should demand that I have one so that I can use this site.
It's very simple. They want to know who you are before your get full access. Linking an account to a credit card is the easiest way to do this. And if they want to have this information out, without having to develop a more complex solution, this is the way.
How about you let CCP answer instead of putting words into their mouth.
WTB : An image in my signature |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.06 18:04:00 -
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What do I do with this client ID and secret key? Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.10.06 19:11:00 -
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I have created a developer account and an app. But I am now seeing this error:
{"error":"invalid_client", "error_description":"Unknown client"}
when I redirect to this URL:
https://login.eveonline.com/oauth/authorize?response_type=code&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost%3A7888%2Fevesso%2Fcallback&client_id=18b71af765a34073bf1e2d1d434d99a3&scope=&state=non-unique%20state Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.10.06 19:20:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:What do I do with this client ID and secret key? Docs were hard to find and should (imo) be linked to from the applications page https://developers.testeveonline.com/resource/single-sign-on Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
Fireborn ETF
Ida Tech
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Posted - 2014.10.06 19:25:00 -
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It is not on Tranquility yet, try using these instead for all the OAuth steps:
https://sisilogin.testeveonline.com/oauth/authorize https://sisilogin.testeveonline.com/oauth/token https://sisilogin.testeveonline.com/oauth/verify |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
3964
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Posted - 2014.10.06 19:44:00 -
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In case my earlier post wasn't obvious:
https://github.com/fuzzysteve/eve-sso-auth is a php implementation of the oauth login required for using this SSO. It has some twiddly bits, in that it pulls the character's corp and alliance as well, and sticks it in a database. However, that's not a requirement. Stripping it out is easy.
The code should be simple enough to read, even if you don't read PHP.
You send someone to devlogin.php
you have it send them back to devauthcallback.php (the url must match what you put in for the application.)
It sets up the DB entries if they're needed, and then redirects the user to another page, with a php session configured. Woo! CSM 9! http://fuzzwork.enterprises/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2014.10.06 22:30:00 -
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Another SSO example: https://github.com/jgoldshlag/edk_eve_sso (my EDK plugin for using SSO to authenticate comments) CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
402
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Posted - 2014.10.07 05:18:00 -
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I built a demo app in node.js if anyone wants to use it as a starting point: https://github.com/plato-cambrian/eve-sso-demo Hopefully someone can make a passport.js extension for EVE, it's quite widely used Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.07 08:00:00 -
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Indeed, not supporting DirectDebit or PayPal as verification is fail. When will people learn that in many parts of the world they are uncommon (and unecessary)? The necessary data about ownership is passed in these methods just as well. iveeCore: PHP library for calculation of industrial activities, now with Hyperion support |
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