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Hevymetal
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
347
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:48:00 -
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I personally believe it will reusher in a old mechanic once allowed many years ago that will add many more points of potential conflict and fun if implemented correctly.
If only to travel from pont A to B with no potential for offensive or defensive actions while enroute, then meh, nothing much will change. The noobs will drool seeing a ship they have never witnessed in operation.
But if capitals are given the green light for Hi-sec operations, offensive and defensive what a fun and exciting change of pace and strategy. Of course Concord will have to upgrade their weapons as well to prevent the asshats from smartbombing or DD at Jita 4-4. No longer will Large POSes be safe in Hi-sec because noone can muster the resources or be bothered to waste the hours required to take it down. Industrialists and researchers would open up a giant potential lootpile to dedicated POS bashing corps. Corps under a wardec would no longer have their most valuable assests out of reach in Hi-sec.
The battlefields would potentially be anywhere. No longer would Hi-sec be limited to minor skirmishes of small ships between warring corporations. Imagine a 200+ fleet fight including caps happening in Amsen, Jita or any other Hi-sec system.
Do you think it will happen again? (capitals allowed in Hi-sec)
To what extent? What do you think the ramifications would be? |
Paranoid Loyd
2154
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:49:00 -
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"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Eldwinn
SomeWhat SophiSticateD Shadow Cartel
27
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:52:00 -
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Hevymetal wrote:
Do you think it will happen again? (capitals allowed in Hi-sec)
Nope. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
6718
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Posted - 2014.10.08 21:54:00 -
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Eldwinn wrote:Hevymetal wrote:
Do you think it will happen again? (capitals allowed in Hi-sec)
Nope.
No..
To all the goons and CFC still crying over the proposed power projection changes: CCP is not trying to ruin the game, they are trying to ruin your game. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10716
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Posted - 2014.10.08 22:26:00 -
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I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Hicksimus
Torgue
346
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Posted - 2014.10.08 22:31:00 -
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Finally I would be able to mine in peace. Do you have it? |
Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
162
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:15:00 -
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CCP said in that capital jump devblog said capitals in highsec would be looked at later.
So.... Maybe. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10720
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:17:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:CCP said in that capital jump devblog said capitals in highsec would be looked at later.
So.... Maybe. *scratches head* I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
162
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:21:00 -
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Yeah sorry... for some reason I'm gibberishing it a lot today. I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10720
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:23:00 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Yeah sorry... for some reason I'm gibberishing it a lot today.
No kiddin' ....... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2154
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:24:00 -
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I think reverse safariing a capital would be an outstandingly good time. Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10720
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:26:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:I think reverse safariing a capital would be an outstandingly good time. OMG PSYCHOTIC MONK!! :O I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
80
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:27:00 -
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Actually, OP is right imho. Caps in highsec is probably going to happen. Think about why caps were kicked out of highsec in the first place: CCP introduced Jumping and in an effort to mitigate power projection, made highsec off-limits to them. I mean, yes there were other considerations, but I think that was the primary one. I've tried tanking CONCORD with a well fit Phoenix... yes it takes longer than a normal ship, but it doesn't make a huge difference. More and more CONCORD shows up. It's expensive. Post jump changes, I really don't see any reason to maintain the cap ban. I would bet that not long after the jump changes are made, CCP allows caps in highsec again. In fact, I would bet CCP is already thinking in that direction. Thus, this is an absolutely valid topic for conversation.
Just my 2 ISK I am a meat popsicle.-á |
Amonios Zula
Aeon Ascendant
31
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:30:00 -
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Caps in highsec eh, bump bump Gank! and people who have no business flying caps will lose them |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11490
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:35:00 -
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I think you should be required to leave the kiddie pool to play with the big toys, but whatevs. Twitter: @EVEAndski
"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -á-á - Abrazzar |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1704
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:44:00 -
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Aside from the whole fighters thing and how thoroughly undesirable it would be to have carebears running level 4s.in chimeras, I don't think anyone wants to have to deal with neutral triage carriers. I mean obviously you'd kill some occasionally, but I think that would be a new level of "welp, we're going to die". |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10730
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Posted - 2014.10.08 23:56:00 -
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If capitals would be allowed in highsec ... ... that's a templar. It's an amarr fighter used by carriers. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
969
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:24:00 -
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Pretty sure the idea was for caps to be able to use null and lowsec gates, not hisec. People can read and write, but they're still mostly illiterate.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Paranoid Loyd
2157
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:50:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:People can read and write, but they're still mostly illiterate.
Pot meet kettle.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
89
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Posted - 2014.10.09 00:52:00 -
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Oh sure lets put caps in HS
As a matter of fact send it all to hell in a hand basket and allow CSAA in HS . Just imagine all the baby titans growing up.
We will all be sitting in MOMs and Titans and pointing and laughing at the guy that brought a BS to the fight.
OR
how about a no |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
881
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:03:00 -
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Large POSes were never safe in Hi Sec.
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45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
99
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:45:00 -
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Nope |
Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2014.10.09 01:52:00 -
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Capital ship Drag racing... would be cool
Something like this....
Requirements to enter the race:
You need to buy a pit-stop hanger, Space station is located in the drag race zone. You need to skill train Drag racing skills, in order to do so you need to have a sponsor team, & also buy a license.
Also your ship needs to be fitted with all Deadspace Drag Racing Modules. You can buy these at your pit-stop hanger(station), well you exchange a normal deadspace module for a drag racing type. These modules will only work in the drag race. They have extra abilities, when overheated... increased ship speed, weapons overdrive (weapons fire at insane rates) . Yes you can shoot the other persons Capital ship, in doing so it will slow them down.
Additional Notes:
The track is setup in High-sec, anyone that decides to cross the track at any point while the drag race is active will be instantly destroyed. The killmail will come up on the billboards located in the area. Bumbing players onto the track is aloud, for added fun.
Sponsor team:
These dedicated players get a automatic free ticket to the event, so they can watch the action. Not only do they get to watch the event take place. They also get the chance to attack the losing ship as it crosses the finish line. Anyone that does so is free game to be killed by the other sponsor team. The winning ship is immune to damage.
In order to become part of a Sponsor team, you need to run missions for the Pirate faction that runs this drag race event. These Missions, will reward tokens that work as currency in order to get your Sponsor license agreement charter. You just need to hand this in & choose what team you want to Sponsor.
The winning team, if they destroy the other Capital ship, all modules that didn't get destroyed the Pirate faction gets them all back & you get the value worth in ISK.
Spectator mode:
The Pirate faction likes to make ISK, so they sell Tickets so you can watch the event Live on twitch. Can't have everyone at the event. This ticket you can buy with ISK, all you need to do is activate the ticket by logging into the Live feed / subscribe. Not only do you get to watch the event Live, you also get to place a BET on who will win just before you activate the ticket. So if your team you have selected wins, you get the amount of ISK back that was placed into the kitty.
Sponsor teams, The Drag race team & anyone that buys a ticket to the event, they get access to buying the Deadspace modules from the Pirate Faction LP store. Only these players can see them. These are the same modules that players gave the Pirate Faction for the Deadspace Drag Racing Modules. The window on getting these items is rather small. These items become soulbound, also since these Pirates like to see pvp, If you have them installed you are marked for pvp at all times. |
James Nikolas Tesla
The True Patriots of New Eden
174
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Posted - 2014.10.09 02:42:00 -
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If caps are allowed in HiSec, we might actually see a Rorqual in a belt. CODE is just a bunch of pirates; smart, organized pirates. It doesn't help to rage at them because that is exactly what they want. Dust yourself off and get back on your feet, you don't even have to talk to them. |
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
52
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Posted - 2014.10.09 03:10:00 -
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James Nikolas Tesla wrote:If caps are allowed in HiSec, we might actually see a Rorqual in a belt.
Yep, and C.O.D.E. in the same belt....in a titan with a doomsday....for the lolz |
Galphii
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
272
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Posted - 2014.10.09 04:34:00 -
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Caps in Highsec would be okay with some alterations. Things like * Pegging the aggression time to the mass of the ship i.e. capitals would have a 2-5 minute de-aggression time to jump or dock. * CONCORD gets dreadnaughts for faster takedowns * Reduce the sensor strength on caps by 30%-50% * Consider every highsec system to be cyno-jammed. * Stacking penalty for remote reps. * Remove ewar immunity from supercaps but replace with +10 warp core strength
etc. X |
Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
969
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Posted - 2014.10.09 04:55:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Chopper Rollins wrote:People can read and write, but they're still mostly illiterate. Pot meet kettle.
Implying literacy involves the ability to read and write. That might be the modern intellectually impoverished definition, but literacy involves a familiarity with literature and the ability to read critically, these protect the individual from being sold ideas that have been invalidated and allow complex communication with very few words. Imagine having to explain what a pyrrhic victory is instead of using the two-word phrase.
"We are going to allow capital ships to use gates in lowsec/nullsec,... "
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/long-distance-travel-changes-inbound/
You're a damn kettle. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Paranoid Loyd
2159
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Posted - 2014.10.09 05:03:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:You're a damn kettle.
I read the Devblog and so did the OP. If you would have used your superior skills in literacy you would have been able to understand that. He presented a what if scenario, you didn't even read the OP. That was my point. Kettle.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
10
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Posted - 2014.10.09 05:06:00 -
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Kettle corn is delicious. Tyyler DURden says "use soap" |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16984
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Posted - 2014.10.09 05:55:00 -
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Mining carriers... AFK mining carriers everywhere....
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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