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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.12 17:35:00 -
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Hello again, CCP (and anyone else who is interested)!
I've been working on this idea for a few months now. It developed from a small thought I entertained into a full-blown concept- and though I have no way to predict how this will be taken by you all, I feel like it is an important thing that, if brought into EVE, could breathe new life into one of the original tenants of New Eden's narrative.
Project Galileo
For simplicity's sake, the plan has been split into three sections:
Agents and Missions ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OO7JxbJNlRW5dQdevAzuDnuBz6r5oGfsnx2Yfm1AdJg/edit?usp=sharing ) This is the 'setup' part of the plan, along with a couple of extraneous ideas that may or may not work parallel to it. Epic Arc 'Grey Soul' ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AiAsyQkcqLz7ZyxATfxslfwBwnql27-AhTg_JIGVtuw/edit?usp=sharing ) This part is extremely important- and I think some of you might really like its story- it's got EOM, Sansha's Nation, Sleeper Drones, and, of course, ancient Jovian tech- in addition, it has a special mechanic involving a unique implant, along with its own specific rewards (and another side idea that could be very interesting to see). Genolution 'Galilean' JD-67 ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CSB3KT4-FXHFMfoWKTWyp6PTLdwe3oS8nPUE8T4qStA/edit?usp=sharing ) This is the crux of the hybridization (Galileo) plan- it includes the mechanics, a special implant, a new icon, and lore to back it all up- it's much more than just a technical explanation- you may like reading it!
Each of the above are links to public documents detailing each of the parts in detail; if I were to post it all at once here, I doubt anyone would take the time to read it (the other option would be to make multiple posts, one for each part, but I don't think I should do that). They aren't just boring text documents, either- I put a good amount of work into them to make them engaging, something you want to read.
(also, there are pictures~GÖ¬ )
And along with all of this, I've written a significant amount of background into the plan- don't worry, it doesn't conflict with anything- and it's all included in part three.
This would mean a lot for the story of New Eden; we haven't had any sort of progression for the Jovians for years at this point- and though it feels like CCP Seagull and most of the rest of CCP is turning from the backstory progression to a more 'emergent gameplay' theme, where only capsuleers create content, I can't help but feel that it would be wasteful, if not disrespectful to some of the game's original ideas, to turn away from this completely.
Please take the time to look through and consider this: the Jovians have been put on the back burner for a long time, and I feel that something like this could help to breathe new life into them.
Thank you for reading- especially you CCP'ers- I wonder how this will turn out
EDIT: I had to add the links as their URLs- for some reason, they wouldn't work with the normal integration the forums use.
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven." GÖâ-áJovian Proverb-áGÖâ |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:42:00 -
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Any proposal that adds more PvE content will always get a +1 from me, especially when it pertains to Agents and Missions..
CCP definitely needs to look into this.
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2014.10.12 22:53:00 -
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+1 for me as well. And kudos on the well-presented idea! I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
John Selth
Constantine. Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:49:00 -
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You just did CCPs job for them +1 |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:52:00 -
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Nice work. +1 "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives"-á |
Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:59:00 -
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I like the addition of new stories and context to eve universe, and I +1 this for all the effort you've put in. But many people feel strongly about Jovians, because some see it as a good thing there is a part of this 'mystical' faction in New Eden which is, and will always be out of reach for the capsulers. I'm sitting on the fence on this one, as I do like the proposition of new stories and pve contents but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to make it Jove based, even only for the sake of keeping Jovians a mystical entity they are now. |
Nex Killer
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:04:00 -
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omg do this!!! |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:22:00 -
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Pookoko wrote:I like the addition of new stories and context to eve universe, and I +1 this for all the effort you've put in. But many people feel strongly about Jovians, because some see it as a good thing there is a part of this 'mystical' faction in New Eden which is, and will always be out of reach for the capsulers. I'm sitting on the fence on this one, as I do like the proposition of new stories and pve contents but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to make it Jove based, even only for the sake of keeping Jovians a mystical entity they are now. I too, worry about how closely tied the jove are in this. I would strongly support a moderate re-write to change it to the jovian founded, and still mysterious SoCT. That crazy bag FC with the silly things on the hull that shouldn't but just did. |
Big rEy
Navy reiNforcements
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:23:00 -
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do it ccp, do it! hmm |
gawrshmapooo
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:49:00 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:50:00 -
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@Pookoko
Believe me, I know what you're saying- the Jovians are what got me interested in eve to begin with, and I've always loved the mystery behind them. That's why I've made sure this idea doesn't get rid of that; although it does involve the Jovians, this plan doesn't directly reveal anything over-the-top or tell us what the directorate is currently doing- we don't go into their space or anything like that, but they, for some reason (a reason we don't know), decide to establish limited contact with us capsuleers (not the empires) and bring those who are completely loyal to them a little closer.
I love the Jovians as the mysterious 'fifth point of the star'- but the thing is, if they aren't mentioned at all, anywhere, it's more like they're being forgotten than like they're hiding something from us- we haven't heard head nor tail of them for over 5 years now. I would never want them to just disappear entirely- and I doubt anyone you or anyone else would either
@James
Mostly the same thing I said above- and as for the SoCT, I love them, but it his is a part where I actually do feel pretty strongly that the Jovians are the best option: the SoCT isn't a Jovian faction as it stands today- it has many secretive programs, but for the most part, save for the 'Book of Emptiness' a while back, they do not focus on the problems the Jovian race faces. The idea of the implant in the first place is that the Galileo project conceived it for the specific purpose of removing the threat of the Jovian disease- and if you read the 'narrative' section in part three, it wouldn't make sense for the SoCT to have started this; the Jovians gave the empires a specific tool in YC27, one we all use today, and that tool is what allowed them to create the JD-67.
And thank you very much for the feedback, everyone
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven." GÖâ-áJovian Proverb-áGÖâ |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.13 07:45:00 -
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You got my attention at Jove. +1
And the proposal details look good to me. |
Jandor Ikahrus
Emperors of Nowhere
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:18:00 -
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I like all this except for the becoming Jove part of it, seems a bit much. I'd be much more comfortable with it being just some light genetic tampering.
It would also be nice if under certain circumstances you got an offer to repeat the arc (on a suitably rare basis) if only to try and stop every Jove frigate in existence being a ship spinning station trophy.
+1 from me though, overall a good proposal well presented. |
qijong jin
Destructive Silence
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:17:00 -
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Looks good |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
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Posted - 2014.10.13 11:11:00 -
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Player-Made Jovian characters?
interesting... +1 to this idea! Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Commander Sertan
Dirt 'n' Glitter I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2014.10.13 11:48:00 -
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Love it, though becoming half-Jove at the end of it seems like a huge leap. If the Jove have the research, they must experimen . We capsuleers should be that experiment with the implan . Maybe just seeing how splicing human and Jove DNA together will really turn out.
Also, would the agents move around, especially the arc agent? Otherwise it'll all end up on eve-survival and all of the mystery would be gone.
+1 for sure, thoug . |
Odithia
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.13 15:05:00 -
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Seemingly interesting PVE, this can't happen in EVE. Permaban |
Mindseamstress
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:05:00 -
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Needless to say I have been waiting for this since 2003! Besides a Jove story line and race were promised in the original box if my memory doesn't betray me :) We really need this as part of the end game
- Proud CEO |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:06:00 -
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@Jandor:
I see what you mean; having the pilots who use the JD-67 become Jovian completely would be too far of a leap. Instead, this makes the pilots change only partially- they become a synthesis of human and Jovian DNA, a new breed of human life. They never become completely Jovian: One, that would ruin a lot of the mystery and Two, they'd all get the Jovian Disease
And as for the ship, I may be adding another supplementary section to this, regarding the level five agents the Directorate already has
@Commander:
As it is, the Jovians have been testing on us and using us for close to a century- any kinks they wished to work out could have been solved by now- but I like that idea anyhow- it sounds just like the Jovians to disguise the implant as a reward while it's actually an experiment [:p
And as a fun tidbit: I named it 'Galileo' after the astronomer, Galileo Galilei, because he can be seen as the link between earth (humans) and Jupiter (Jovians)
Amendment:
It's come to my attention that the 'lore' pieces I wrote into the third document are not as easily noticed as I had thought they would be (or at least a few people have said so). Here's a link to the lore itself, which I posted in the Fiction sub yesterday:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=379050&find=unread
There's a not-so-subtle link to the history of a very important piece of equipment all of us use in it: Any of you who have read up on the lore as much as I like to will notice
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven." GÖâ-áJovian Proverb-áGÖâ |
Petru Lupescu
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.13 17:28:00 -
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+1
CCP, you created the Joves, use 'em :]
This proposal is well thought out, in line with Eve, and strong. I can only hope it goes somewhere. Very well done, Uriel.
~ Proud Director |
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:07:00 -
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+1 for also having the potential to resemble an 'Engineer'. Now if there was also a 'dark' option to take on the traits of a certain XenomorphGǪ I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:13:00 -
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It would be nice to have different Epic arcs, so you would have the last reward either a bit of Sleeper, Yan Jung, Talocan, Takmahl, or Jove DNA. Or they could have start as one Epic arc, but very early they could be split up into diferent stories and endings. Just some suggestions... Ideas to boost fun factor in Planetary Interaction. |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:29:00 -
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No, if only because screw mission runners.
actually, make it only offered to pilots whoa re -10.0 standings, and havent been in highsec for a minimum of 6 months, you know, so the Jove know they arent still "working for the bad guys" (empires) |
Zmikund
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:01:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:No, if only because screw mission runners.
actually, make it only offered to pilots whoa re -10.0 standings, and havent been in highsec for a minimum of 6 months, you know, so the Jove know they arent still "working for the bad guys" (empires)
typical 0.0 player who thinks everything is about him ... |
Jousake Hiroshi
Partial Safety
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:40:00 -
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Oh my god yes. I've been dying to become a Jove from the day I've joined EVE, and this is would just be amazing... |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2014.10.13 23:14:00 -
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Zmikund wrote:typical 0.0 player who thinks everything is about him ... Is there any other type? I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.14 02:25:00 -
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Jousake Hiroshi wrote:Oh my god yes. I've been dying to become a Jove from the day I've joined EVE, and this is would just be amazing... Well, half-Jove, but your point still stands
And thank you! I hope CCP likes it as much as you and the others do
As for me, the Jovians are what got me interested in playing EVE in the first place!
"A City made of Wood is built in the forest; A City made of Stone is built in the mountains; But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven." GÖâ-áJovian Proverb-áGÖâ |
Billy Hix
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2014.10.14 05:27:00 -
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This is really cool |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2014.10.14 06:10:00 -
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I like this and approve |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.10.15 02:42:00 -
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Zmikund wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:No, if only because screw mission runners.
actually, make it only offered to pilots whoa re -10.0 standings, and havent been in highsec for a minimum of 6 months, you know, so the Jove know they arent still "working for the bad guys" (empires) typical 0.0 player who thinks everything is about him ... jokes on you, even when i made that post i was SYJ, which is a LOWSEC alliance, havent been in null in a long ass time, and even then i stayed mostly in highsec out of boredom |
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