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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.13 01:34:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Do Care Bears Exist ? After giving this a lot more thought than it deserves, I can answer the question by simply adding possessive context to the OP
Replacement OP wrote: Do I Care Bears Exist
The correct answer would likely be relative to your Latitude, and proximity to Bears.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
484
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Posted - 2014.10.13 01:42:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.
As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.
So..
Do Care Bears Exist ?
In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.
Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?
Yes "Care Bears" exist it is even included in the lore of Eve Online as seen in this chronicles. So Care Bears as a living creature exists in the New Eden Cluster. Here is a select part of the chronicle describing a "Care Bear" in the EVE universe.
Quote: They passed a massive glass cage filled with hundreds of fuzzy, pink teddy bears, their eyes and mouths grotesquely large. "We ... wuv ... you," they intoned in a choir of childlike voices. "Will ... you ... wuv ... us? We ... wuv ... you", over and over.
As you can see they exist and their description fits that of a "Care Bear". Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt! |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:42:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote: Do I Care Bears Exist
Only as a trade item and not even that if they poop in my cargo bay. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
6449
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Posted - 2014.10.13 02:46:00 -
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I care and I'm a bear, but I'm not a carebear. Figure that one out.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs Independent Operators Consortium
329
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:04:00 -
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Confirming. I"m fat, I'm furry and I shoot rainbows out my stomach. |
Nevil Oscillator
16
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Posted - 2014.10.13 03:56:00 -
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Toriessian wrote:Confirming. I"m fat, I'm furry and I shoot rainbows out my stomach.
So it's true then. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2053
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Posted - 2014.10.13 04:50:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:It seems that some players who prefer outlaw type activities refer to other players as care bears, possibly as some self ego boosting fantasy where they are one of the dangerous ones.
As far as I can tell there is little if no industry that isn't actually part of the logistic support for the combat efforts of capsuleers.
So..
Do Care Bears Exist ?
In terms of Eve, there are a few economic facts I am curious about.
Is the player driven market really entirely isolated ? and is that for better, worse and more or less realistic ?
"Carebear" is a pretty ironic term, anymore, considering that most of them are vile, repulsive, angry little critters that are quick to threaten real-life violence and harass "outlaw type", but just as quickly offended by alleged "bullying" (aka: killing spaceships in a game about killing spaceships).
The word used to mean something good. Back in the heady days when Chribba was the standard to which all Carebears sought to measure themselves by. Now, though? No..... pirates are usually much nicer people. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Valkin Mordirc
303
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:02:00 -
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Some people refer to carebearing as someone who only does Missions/Indy and the such, however I would say that isn't really a carebear.
You can do your best to avoid PVP all you want, and you would never be a carebear in my book. When you start whining and complaining about how you were ganked and how unfair it is that your maximum yield hulk was destroyed by a couple of catties, is when you venture into Carebearness.
I would say it's not Risk Aversion, that makes someone a carebear,
It's the mindset of thinking that you should be risk free, and deserve to be risk free, that makes you a carebear, (IE the many many carebears that thinking ganking and bumping should have harsher punishment)
The idea that the game should hold your hand, that makes you a carebear, (People who never learn from mistakes, never learn how to D-scan, and the such)
And the people that attach real life feelings to their pixilated spaceships. Or attach a certain moral high-ground against other activities (White-Knighting, or freaking out when they lose their ultra special meta-4 Hurricane)
EDIT: I would also say, that the term of a Carebear has Evolved within the community and has multiple definitions, it all depends on the group you are asking. #DeleteTheWeak |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2053
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:06:00 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: And the people that attach real life feelings to their pixilated spaceships.
I hold memorial services for every Ferox I lose in glorious battle. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Maekchu
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
76
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:17:00 -
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Yes, they exist.
Now can I have free stuff? |
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Nevil Oscillator
16
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Posted - 2014.10.13 05:23:00 -
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Maekchu wrote:Yes, they exist.
Now can I have free stuff?
Yes, you just need to find a blue wreck with something in it. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6452
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Posted - 2014.10.13 07:15:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:The blue doughnut. They all treaty'd everyone else, and no one will fight.
They are just enjoying licking each others bung. Yeah, all those BL dreads were here to play, and vince draken's boys are deploying so they won't have to travel too far to play and dance with us after the patch. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Chemma Chi
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.10.13 07:32:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Maekchu wrote:Yes, they exist.
Now can I have free stuff? Yes, you just need to find a blue wreck with something in it.
Which brings me back a few hours - I was flying through space in a brand new Slasher and I see a blue wreck, industrial. There was a brand new Slasher inside. Coincidence? |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10870
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Posted - 2014.10.13 07:42:00 -
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Chemma Chi wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Maekchu wrote:Yes, they exist.
Now can I have free stuff? Yes, you just need to find a blue wreck with something in it. Which brings me back a few hours - I was flying through space in a brand new Slasher and I see a blue wreck, industrial. There was a brand new Slasher inside. Coincidence? The plot thickens..... I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Nevil Oscillator
16
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:10:00 -
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Chemma Chi wrote: Which brings me back a few hours - I was flying through space in a brand new Slasher and I see a blue wreck, industrial. There was a brand new Slasher inside. Coincidence?
2500 m2 No coincidence, it's probably the only thing they left behind. . No offence, I love my Slasher, it's called Uzi Ships are really difficult to move about, even shuttles take some doing
I mean from a trade point of view 2500m3 what is worth less ISK than a T1 ship per cubic meter ?
Although I haven't actually done that calculation with anything bigger than a frigate.
Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
484
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:23:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Chemma Chi wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Maekchu wrote:Yes, they exist.
Now can I have free stuff? Yes, you just need to find a blue wreck with something in it. Which brings me back a few hours - I was flying through space in a brand new Slasher and I see a blue wreck, industrial. There was a brand new Slasher inside. Coincidence? The plot thickens.....
Inside the slasher that was inside the indy wreck is a slasher BPC. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt! |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1561
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:25:00 -
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...A BPC with perfect stats... someone must have carebeared over it! |
Chemma Chi
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:47:00 -
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The Illuminati are here in New Eden, I tell you! |
Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
176
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Posted - 2014.10.13 08:50:00 -
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There are carebears, nullbears and pewkitties. All are equally annoying. Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10872
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:09:00 -
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Mithandra wrote:There are carebears, nullbears and pewkitties. All are equally annoying. What's a PewKitty? Sounds so cute... xD I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
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Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
177
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:22:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Mithandra wrote:There are carebears, nullbears and pewkitties. All are equally annoying. What's a PewKitty? Sounds so cute... xD
Someone who complains that there's not enough pew, doesn't like the pew that there is, thinks fights should always be on their terms, thinks that unless you are shooting someone in the face you are not playing eve, will debate the relative values of a single midslot for hours on end. The list is endless but those are the highlights Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:47:00 -
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David Therman wrote:Yes. There was an occasion not long ago where someone in my corp finally got up to Exhumers, and bought himself a Mack. A couple of days later, he promptly got ganked in it... when he posted the loss-mail, it was simply 2 strip-miner's, a couple of mining upgrades and, if I remember correctly, 1 adaptive field. No rigs, no shield extenders, on a Mack. I felt like banging my head on the wall... which I did, when I found out he'd posted a thread on here (GD, of all places) about "miners not having enough protection". And this was someone who has been active for a few months at the very least.
I'd say that fits the definition of a "care-bear".
He sounds more like a blathering incompetant moron to me... |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
872
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:36:00 -
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Mithandra wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Mithandra wrote:There are carebears, nullbears and pewkitties. All are equally annoying. What's a PewKitty? Sounds so cute... xD Someone who complains that there's not enough pew, doesn't like the pew that there is, thinks fights should always be on their terms, thinks that unless you are shooting someone in the face you are not playing eve, will debate the relative values of a single midslot for hours on end. The list is endless but those are the highlights I actually find these to be the most annoying, since not only do you have to put up with whatever it is they're whining about, but you also have to try and make sense (in futility) of their multiple incompatible and hypocritical points of views that are obvious to everyone except themselves.
Successfully doinitwrongGäó since 2006.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2058
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:49:00 -
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Mithandra wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Mithandra wrote:There are carebears, nullbears and pewkitties. All are equally annoying. What's a PewKitty? Sounds so cute... xD Someone who complains that there's not enough pew, doesn't like the pew that there is, thinks fights should always be on their terms, thinks that unless you are shooting someone in the face you are not playing eve, will debate the relative values of a single midslot for hours on end. The list is endless but those are the highlights
Whoa..... go figure. PvP'ers, in a PvP game, complaining that there's little PvP to be had and most so-called "PvP corps" are full of either risk-averse sissies and/or blobbers.
My alliance is pretty ballsy, when it comes right down to it. We'll fight, outnumbered. We'll fight when WE outnumber you. We'll fight with or without logi/ewar, and we'll fight AGAINST logi/ewar. We've tried arranged fights, and they are usually stupid, boring, or blob-bait. We like winning when the odds are against us and we don't mind losing. What we DO mind are people who run from easy fights and fellow "pirate" corps choosing to dock up. I don't see how that makes us entitled. Again.... this is a PvP game. If you don't want to PvP, that's fine. Just don't call yourself a PvP corp if that's the case. And certainly don't live in lowsec if you don't like the risks involved in doing so. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2058
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:53:00 -
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Hell, the whole reason I put up with all the BS that goes along with being in Tso's, is simply because they're willing to fight outnumbered, and fly expensive-ish ships. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.10.13 14:56:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:I'm an apathetic carebear.
So you're an Idon'tcarebear? A bitter vet trying to start anew. |
Nevil Oscillator
17
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:21:00 -
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I never said this was a ranting thread for listing all the silly names for other players that have ever been used by possibly more than one person if you are lucky but not necessarily. Always remember that mining is a big fat yorkie eating working mans environment. Not for Girls As for Distribution |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2064
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Posted - 2014.10.13 16:44:00 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:I never said this was a ranting thread for listing all the silly names for other players that have ever been used by possibly more than one person if you are lucky but not necessarily.
Nobody cares what you said. You post a crappy thread, you get trolled until your crappy thread gets locked.
Welcome to GD. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Fabulous Rod
Darkfall Corp
60
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Posted - 2014.10.13 18:56:00 -
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Its ironic because EVE is one of the most brainless, low-skill ceiling pvp games in existence where you win fights because you were lucky enough to be in the right ship for the situation.
Its paper rock scissors pvp to the extreme where player skill is usually totally irrelevant.
The penalties for being aggressive acts committed against helpless targets are practically non-existence.
If you think about it, this game attracts the most pathetic individuals who have gotten **** on in other more skill-demanding pvp games. EVE is easy for them and they don't have to risk anything or even be a good player to get kills. Delusions of grandeur set in because of how easy it is for these baddies to kill someone in EVE, and they refer to others as carebears to try to tell themselves they are somehow better than they are. They are the lowest o the low and have to tell this to themselves and others to feel better about themselves, so desperate for someone else to look down upon.
EVE is definitely the cowards pvp game. To real pvp gamers, EVE is a joke. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
812
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Posted - 2014.10.13 19:04:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Most people have no clue of the definition of a carebear.
There are several types of bears who share characteristics.
There's the carebear, which is the broad term ...
The fleetbear ... who whines about the lack of FCs. The nullbear ... who whines about afk cloakers. The gankbear ... like CODE people.
They're all carebears, simply because they're either whiny, cowards or both.
They run big mouths, but in the end have nothing to actually show off, while constantly trying to derail from this very fact.
You can find them easily, because they can not stop talking like big men. Then you make them hide in station all day, because they can not realistically harm you in any way ... and they will smack even more, because it shows them how weak they actually are.
And in case you DO get a hold of them and kill their ships ... ... you can expect even more.
At that point one should feel highly encouraged to post the story in C&P ... ... to make everyone aware of this sad little kid.
Don't forget about the f***bear. Which is just a normal player who has sex with beautiful women all day long.
Basically me. I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon |
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