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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.13 20:46:49 -
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Is there any way to boost faction standings without actually running missions?? If I understand this correctly even the Data Center Agents require standings to be a certain level before they become available. I've already trained Diplomacy IV.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:26:17 -
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if you don't want to run missions what is the problem with slightly low amarr standings?
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:28:38 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:if you don't want to run missions what is the problem with slightly low amarr standings?
Gate guns in Low Sec are a pain in the ass...
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2014.10.13 21:38:20 -
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99.9% sure lowsec gate guns have nothing to do with faction standings. Hell with that level of standings nothing will even happen to you in amarr highsec.
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
- Mara Rinn
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:08:49 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:99.9% sure lowsec gate guns have nothing to do with faction standings. Hell with that level of standings nothing will even happen to you in amarr highsec.
They shoot suspects all the time or sometimes? I ask because I wasn't being shot last night but today... I am. Standings seemed to be the most likely culprit but I'm honestly not 100% sure which is the reason for this post. Thanks for the feedback.
Perhaps I've asked the wrong question...
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:15:00 -
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Low sec gate guns don't care about sec status, they will shoot at the aggressor assuming the aggressor is shooting an illegal target.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:15:45 -
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Low sec gate guns don't care about sec status, they will shoot at the aggressor assuming the aggressor is shooting an illegal target.
If you were suspect and shot first they will shoot at you, if you shot second, they will not shoot at anyone (You are a legal target).
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:32:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Low sec gate guns don't care about sec status, they will shoot at the aggressor assuming the aggressor is shooting an illegal target.
If you were suspect and shot first they will shoot at you, if you shot second, they will not shoot at anyone (You are a legal target).
My understanding is that if you aggress a target they start shooting... once you warp off grid and come back they should stop shooting, yes? It was working that way last night but it's different today which prompted me to look at my standings.
My Amarr standings are -3.76 and when I am getting shot anytime I land on grid with a gate gun, to include station guns. Whether or not I've actually shot anyone doesn't seem to matter. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:32:48 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Low sec gate guns don't care about sec status, they will shoot at the aggressor assuming the aggressor is shooting an illegal target.
If you were suspect and shot first they will shoot at you, if you shot second, they will not shoot at anyone (You are a legal target).
My understanding is that if you aggress a target they start shooting... once you warp off grid and come back they should stop shooting, yes? It was working that way last night but it's different today which prompted me to look at my standings.
My Amarr standings are -3.76 and I am getting shot anytime I land on grid with a gate gun, to include station guns. Whether or not I've actually shot anyone doesn't seem to matter.
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:34:02 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Low sec gate guns don't care about sec status, they will shoot at the aggressor assuming the aggressor is shooting an illegal target.
If you were suspect and shot first they will shoot at you, if you shot second, they will not shoot at anyone (You are a legal target).
My sec status is 3.0. I was asking about faction standing.
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:36:34 -
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So, if I understand you guys correctly... Security Status and Faction Standing should not acquire aggression from gate guns? I've heard a few different versions of this information including this post. Any links to a definitive source?
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.13 22:43:04 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:My sec status is 3.0. I was asking about faction standing.
I meant faction standings, my mistake, I have not experienced what you speak of and the alt I used for this had terrible standings to Caldari and most of my time was spent in Caldari space.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.13 23:24:01 -
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From my understanding it sounds like you had a Criminal timer active and as long as you remained within range of the guns, that timer will continue to renew itself. Even if you warp off and then return before the timer is completed, the guns will renew their attack on you, thus extending the timer.
Having an active Criminal flag will incur Gate and Station Gun attacks in low sec. Suspect flag will not.
Course I could be wrong about that.
However I do know for a fact that your Amarr Faction standing of -3.76 isn't the problem. In fact Faction standings have no relevance in low security systems. Neither does Security Status.
DMC
The Plan | California Eve Players | Proposal
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.10.14 00:13:40 -
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I asked around, got some legit info and turns out it was a bug. I logged out and logged back in... crisis averted. :D
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.14 20:06:27 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:From my understanding it sounds like you had a Criminal timer active and as long as you remained within range of the guns, that timer will continue to renew itself. Even if you warp off and then return before the timer is completed, the guns will renew their attack on you, thus extending the timer.
Having an active Criminal flag will incur Gate and Station Gun attacks in low sec. Suspect flag will not.
Course I could be wrong about that.
However I do know for a fact that your Amarr Faction standing of -3.76 isn't the problem. In fact Faction standings have no relevance in low security systems. Neither does Security Status.
DMC
Gate guns only aggress in lowsec if you aggress a non-legal target. If you warp away and warp back, gate guns stop shooting at you. |
Bagatur I
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.21 10:17:07 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:So, if I understand you guys correctly... Security Status and Faction Standing should not acquire aggression from gate guns? I've heard a few different versions of this information including this post. Any links to a definitive source?
if your faction standing is below -5, you become shoot-on-sight for the faction - the gate/station guns will shoot you pretty soon after a warning (something like blahblahblah we dont like you) and if you linger in their space, like do a mission, faction police will show up and shoot you. if you dont feck around and just fly through/dock/undock quickly, guns usually dont have enough time to start shooting you.
Faction police dont scram you, so you can run away. However I tried shooting them when they were already shooting at me, and it warned me about shooting a peaceful target. wth? how are they peaceful when they are shooting at me?
But you say your faction standing is only -3.76, so I am not sure who and why is shooting at you. |
Beness
Vojtech Fekete
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Posted - 2014.10.22 18:56:11 -
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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:Is there any way to boost faction standings without actually running missions?? If I understand this correctly even the Data Center Agents require standings to be a certain level before they become available. I've already trained Diplomacy IV.
Missions are the only way I'm aware of for boosting faction standings.
As you continue to damage your faction standings, keep in mind The Plan, which is also good reading for understanding how things interact. |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.10.23 02:58:55 -
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Bagatur I wrote:Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:So, if I understand you guys correctly... Security Status and Faction Standing should not acquire aggression from gate guns? I've heard a few different versions of this information including this post. Any links to a definitive source? if your faction standing is below -5, you become shoot-on-sight for the faction - the gate/station guns will shoot you pretty soon after a warning (something like blahblahblah we dont like you) and if you linger in their space, like do a mission, faction police will show up and shoot you. if you dont feck around and just fly through/dock/undock quickly, guns usually dont have enough time to start shooting you. Faction police dont scram you, so you can run away. However I tried shooting them when they were already shooting at me, and it warned me about shooting a peaceful target. wth? how are they peaceful when they are shooting at me? But you say your faction standing is only -3.76, so I am not sure who and why is shooting at you.
it was a bug... relogged and it stopped happening
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