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YuIia
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:29:00 -
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The problem seems like its a client bug or eve server issue, not ddos. Let me explain:
At work I have to play eve off the wifi, and I get socked closed every 5mins on it because the connection ping spikes every so often. The issue is that eve immedietly kicks you out when this happens instead of waiting for your client to respond and catch up. I can play battlefield 4 on 64 player servers off this wifi connection and only get a tiny ping spike when this happens, but when I run eve I get socket closed every single time.
At home, on my lan and good connection I only get socket closed every few nights, and that may be from the ddos CCP is reporting, but the real problem is the fact the server will disconnect you the very second your ping fluctuates instead of waiting for your connection to catch up.
CCP I would like you to be honest and explain to your players that there is a client/server issue that started with one of these expansions a few months ago. Before this I never had any reoccuring socket closed problems. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:31:00 -
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Its at the ISP level
I can assure you "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Pen Ris
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you CCP, is that you? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:33:00 -
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Did you try turning it off and then back on again? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:35:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you
Opinion and conjecture.
Post facts to have your comment have any relevance.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
765
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:39:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Well, actually, I have researched a bit about the "socket closed" on my side, since I have noticed it in other "connection sensitive" applications that I use. Yes, it's true that the error is appearing more frequently in the last couple of months, but at least in my case it's not CCP's or ISP's fault (well, mostly ). Most of the times it's the DNS. I have been switching my DNS configuration and testing out different servers with different results until I've finally switched to Google's public DNS (I don't like it, but it seems the most stable at the moment). "Socket closed" is now mostly gone for me.
Of course, your cause of socket closed could be entirely different. o.0 |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
707
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:40:00 -
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funny, I've been running 2 clients at the same time and one will "socket closed" and the other will stay connected
admittedly my connection craps out for a brief moment every now and then, and the one that stays connected hasn't tried to do anything during that. it seems that as long as you don't interact with the client at all it stays connected for a fairly long time, where if you try to do something and it doesn't get a response it will DC you.
and yes, every socket closed I've had it seems something has messed up in the middle somewhere, although more often than not it is closer to my end than anything else. I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me! In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod - Mara Rinn |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:40:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Opinion and conjecture. Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid. Someone should mention this to the OP |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:45:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Miko Jin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Opinion and conjecture. Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid. Someone should mention this to the OP
What? You don't blindly trust an NPC Forum Alts's assessment of the 'Closed Socket' "problem"? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2014.10.17 17:45:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Miko Jin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Opinion and conjecture. Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid. Someone should mention this to the OP
I agree. |
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:05:00 -
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I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local. Disclaimer: My opinion does not necessarily reflect that of my corp or alliance. My opinion is my own, and if you don't like, that is your problem. |
YuIia
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:07:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local.
If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:14:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Opinion and conjecture. Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid.
Said the person who didn't post any data or facts. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:15:00 -
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YuIia wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local. If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve.
Its not just 5 people in local... Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:16:00 -
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It's just all the coal piling up in the socks. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:16:00 -
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YuIia wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local. If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve.
I have a colleague that I used to work with complaining of a similar issue and after a lot of investigation it boiled down to him having his modem/router on the opposite side of a wall to his microwave oven and every time the oven was used he got dc'd but he didn't realise until he moved his modem/router. Maybe it can be as simple as that or could be your isp/route.
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Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:17:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Miko Jin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Opinion and conjecture. Post facts so your comment has relevance. Posting without any data or facts to back up your comment makes you look stupid. Said the person who didn't post any data or facts.
Troll somewhere else. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:20:00 -
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Stick your finger in the socket to stop it from closing. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
YuIia
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:22:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:YuIia wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local. If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve. I have a colleague that I used to work with complaining of a similar issue and after a lot of investigation it boiled down to him having his modem/router on the opposite side of a wall to his microwave oven and every time the oven was used he got dc'd but he didn't realise until he moved his modem/router. Maybe it can be as simple as that or could be your isp/route.
Regardless of the issue I'm having with my wifi, my point is that other online games can stay connected during my ping fluctuations on the wifi, however eve will socket close every single time. I really cant remember a time I lagged out in eve for more than a few seconds, because when that happens its always socket closed even on my good wired in connection.
I am not seeing it as a coincidence that other games can stay connected and eve can't for only the last few months.
Keep in mind I've been playing since 2010, and on this work connection since then too. This only started happening a few months ago. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
7039
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:24:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Its at the ISP level
I can assure you Opinion and conjecture.
Nope "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Miko Jin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:24:00 -
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YuIia wrote:Miko Jin wrote:YuIia wrote:Iain Cariaba wrote:I play EvE using a shared wifi connection in the building I live in, and hardly ever get closed sockets running multiple clients. Suggest OP's issue is local. If you would have read or understood my post my issue is that my connection has ping spikes every 5-10mins and every single time this happens I get socket closed in eve, however other online games such as battlefield 4 have no problems. Surely a 64 player match of battlefield 4 is more demanding than 5 people in local in eve. I have a colleague that I used to work with complaining of a similar issue and after a lot of investigation it boiled down to him having his modem/router on the opposite side of a wall to his microwave oven and every time the oven was used he got dc'd but he didn't realise until he moved his modem/router. Maybe it can be as simple as that or could be your isp/route. Regardless of the issue I'm having with my wifi, my point is that other online games can stay connected during my ping fluctuations on the wifi, however eve will socket close every single time. I really cant remember a time I lagged out in eve for more than a few seconds, because when that happens its always socket closed even on my good wired in connection. I am not seeing it as a coincidence that other games can stay connected and eve can't for only the last few months. Keep in mind I've been playing since 2010, and on this work connection since then too. This only started happening a few months ago.
There have been numerous other posts with regard to this and I agree it does need a clarification from CCP.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:35:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:There have been numerous other posts with regard to this and I agree it does need a clarification from CCP.
You mean.. like this? Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:38:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Miko Jin wrote:There have been numerous other posts with regard to this and I agree it does need a clarification from CCP.
You mean.. like this? Or like this? "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13657
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:39:00 -
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Miko Jin wrote:
Troll somewhere else.
Play nice and you don't get trolled. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2014.10.17 18:50:00 -
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YuIia wrote: The problem seems like its a client bug or eve server issue, not ddos. Let me explain:
At work I have to play eve off the wifi, and I get socked closed every 5mins on it because the connection ping spikes every so often. The issue is that eve immedietly kicks you out when this happens instead of waiting for your client to respond and catch up. I can play battlefield 4 on 64 player servers off this wifi connection and only get a tiny ping spike when this happens, but when I run eve I get socket closed every single time.
At home, on my lan and good connection I only get socket closed every few nights, and that may be from the ddos CCP is reporting, but the real problem is the fact the server will disconnect you the very second your ping fluctuates instead of waiting for your connection to catch up.
CCP I would like you to be honest and explain to your players that there is a client/server issue that started with one of these expansions a few months ago. Before this I never had any reoccuring socket closed problems.
Your job must not be very important if you can play eve at work. Also why do you play EvE at work, you know? I thought work was supposed to be you know for working?
Oh and on top of that. Work place environments do track where traffic goes to and occasionally will throw out a de-authiticator packet on you to drop your wifi connection. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
2852
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:57:00 -
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Can't you just pay your subs and not log in? You can go without socket closed for months. Try it. Invalid signature format |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
145
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:57:00 -
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Ok riddle me this batman
If you say your problem is based on your crappy connection at work, then with my multiple computers on my network only 1 computer will end up getting socket closed every hour at a specific time and not either of the other 2? "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
11022
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:14:00 -
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YuIia wrote:Regardless of the issue I'm having with my wifi, my point is that other online games can stay connected during my ping fluctuations on the wifi, however eve will socket close every single time. I really cant remember a time I lagged out in eve for more than a few seconds, because when that happens its always socket closed even on my good wired in connection.
I am not seeing it as a coincidence that other games can stay connected and eve can't for only the last few months. Well ... I think it's a noteworthy point.
Not sure it's not intended to kick out people with such spikes, though.
A desync is really bad. Weird things happen then, but you still are in game.
It's better to get kicked when that happens. I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked. - You are my content, my shiny content - you make me haaappy, when skies are greeeeyyy - you'll never know dear, how much I loooooove you - don't you take my content away! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:43:00 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Miko Jin wrote:There have been numerous other posts with regard to this and I agree it does need a clarification from CCP.
You mean.. like this? Or like this? Or like this.
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