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Nikolai Olerie
Touring New Eden Haven.
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:01:00 -
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First off, hello all! I'm a newbie here and in EVE, so bear with me if I say something foolish. That said, let's get down to business.
I have a bit of a project I'm trying to work on, and the idea is this: I would like to be able to solo exploration sites (low and null), but with a fit that will allow me a chance to turn the tables on a ganker that warps in on me. I understand that my best option would, of course, be to fit stabs and just run, but I want to try something different. I'll admit that imagining the look on a pirate's face when his juicy target turns and opens fire is... appealing.
So far, my idea of the basic requirements of such a fit would be as follows:
-1 high slot for cov ops cloaking device
-1 Mid for analyzer
-1 Mid for scram (I don't expect explorer gankers to fit stabs, but maybe I'm wrong? the scram is mostly to turn off MWD)
Beyond these basic necessities, the other modules would be specific to the strategy I'm employing.
At the moment, I'm playing around with fits on a Stratios. My thinking so far has led me to focus on neuts and/or ewar, and let drones do the hitting. My primary concern with that is, of course, missile and projectile turret ships.
At this point, I'm hoping you may have suggestions for tactics/fits/different ships to use for this crazy scheme; either that, or just a solid indication that what I'm trying to do is absolute madness, and should be stopped before my insanity infects others.
TL;DR- I would like to fit an exploration ship in a way that allows it to run exploration sites AND fight back against gankers.
Thanks in advance for whatever help you can provide!
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Nikolai Olerie
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:01:48 -
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First off, hello all! I'm a newbie here and in EVE, so bear with me if I say something foolish. That said, let's get down to business.
I have a bit of a project I'm trying to work on, and the idea is this: I would like to be able to solo exploration sites (low and null), but with a fit that will allow me a chance to turn the tables on a ganker that warps in on me. I understand that my best option would, of course, be to fit stabs and just run, but I want to try something different. I'll admit that imagining the look on a pirate's face when his juicy target turns and opens fire is... appealing.
So far, my idea of the basic requirements of such a fit would be as follows:
-1 high slot for cov ops cloaking device
-1 Mid for analyzer
-1 Mid for scram (I don't expect explorer gankers to fit stabs, but maybe I'm wrong? the scram is mostly to turn off MWD)
Beyond these basic necessities, the other modules would be specific to the strategy I'm employing.
At the moment, I'm playing around with fits on a Stratios. My thinking so far has led me to focus on neuts and/or ewar, and let drones do the hitting. My primary concern with that is, of course, missile and projectile turret ships.
At this point, I'm hoping you may have suggestions for tactics/fits/different ships to use for this crazy scheme; either that, or just a solid indication that what I'm trying to do is absolute madness, and should be stopped before my insanity infects others.
TL;DR- I would like to fit an exploration ship in a way that allows it to run exploration sites AND fight back against gankers.
Thanks in advance for whatever help you can provide!
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Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:39:00 -
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Anyone who tries to catch you running any sort of site will either not be alone or flying a ship to target your weaknesses. Your best bet is to fit either a full PvP fit and go PvP or go full PvE and evade/hide/run when hostiles are trying to catch you. You can gimp your PvE fit to PvP but you won't do either well. |
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
87
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Posted - 2014.10.17 19:39:16 -
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Anyone who tries to catch you running any sort of site will either not be alone or flying a ship to target your weaknesses. Your best bet is to fit either a full PvP fit and go PvP or go full PvE and evade/hide/run when hostiles are trying to catch you. You can gimp your PvE fit to PvP but you won't do either well. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
558
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:14:00 -
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Taking a quick peek at your employment record, I can see that your character is barely over a month old. With this in mind, let me give you some seemingly harsh, yet sincerely well-intentioned, advice.
1. If you have already purchased said Stratios, leave it docked somewhere in hisec for at least a year while you train up your combat and support skills. Expensive faction cruisers are notoriously easy to lose by pilots who think that being able to undock in one is the same as being able to properly fly one.
2. Go buy a T1 exploration frigate and spend some time running sites in hisec. You need lots of practice both probing down the sites and hacking the containers, and doing it in the relative safety of hisec is a great place to start.
3. After said hisec practice, give losec a try. Now, you'll have to run your probes and hack the containers all while watching both local and your directional scans. The key to not being gank-bait in an exploration site is to know that someone is going to be joining you before they land on grid if at all possible.
4. After you've got some practice running sites in losec, pick up a T1 ship of your choosing and practice PvP-ing in it. Expect to die a lot, so pick something not horrible expensive.
5. By the time you've done all of those things, a year will probably have passed and you'll likely have both the character skillpoints and the personal experience to fly a Stratios as you suggested.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but EvE is harsh. You can't just jump into shiny, expensive ships as a new player and expect them to live. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:14:29 -
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Taking a quick peek at your employment record, I can see that your character is barely over a month old. With this in mind, let me give you some seemingly harsh, yet sincerely well-intentioned, advice.
1. If you have already purchased said Stratios, leave it docked somewhere in hisec for at least a year while you train up your combat and support skills. Expensive faction cruisers are notoriously easy to lose by pilots who think that being able to undock in one is the same as being able to properly fly one.
2. Go buy a T1 exploration frigate and spend some time running sites in hisec. You need lots of practice both probing down the sites and hacking the containers, and doing it in the relative safety of hisec is a great place to start.
3. After said hisec practice, give losec a try. Now, you'll have to run your probes and hack the containers all while watching both local and your directional scans. The key to not being gank-bait in an exploration site is to know that someone is going to be joining you before they land on grid if at all possible.
4. After you've got some practice running sites in losec, pick up a T1 ship of your choosing and practice PvP-ing in it. Expect to die a lot, so pick something not horrible expensive.
5. By the time you've done all of those things, a year will probably have passed and you'll likely have both the character skillpoints and the personal experience to fly a Stratios as you suggested.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but EvE is harsh. You can't just jump into shiny, expensive ships as a new player and expect them to live.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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Paranoid Loyd
2276
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:22:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Sound advice
Heed this man's advice.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
2483
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:22:46 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Sound advice
Heed this man's advice.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp The Bastion
356
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:41:00 -
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You should also listen to this man above me. |
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp The Bastion
366
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Posted - 2014.10.17 20:41:36 -
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You should also listen to this man above me. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5819
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Posted - 2014.10.17 21:19:00 -
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Fyi, iv been playing over a year and I wouldn't feel comfortable in a stratios out in low or null but would hunt one mercilessly if I thought I could catch it. great advice above , heed it. =]I[= |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6427
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Posted - 2014.10.17 21:19:25 -
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Fyi, iv been playing over a year and I wouldn't feel comfortable in a stratios out in low or null but would hunt one mercilessly if I thought I could catch it. great advice above , heed it.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Nikolai Olerie
Touring New Eden Haven.
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Posted - 2014.10.17 21:24:00 -
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I'd like to apologize ahead of time for any lapses in grammar or spelling, as I'm replying from my phone.
To begin with, I would like to thank you all for your sound advice, and reassure you (or disappoint any pirates among you) that I have no expectation of attempting this with my current skills and experience. Mostly, I'm curious as to whether the idea is even viable. I truly have no idea; as you have (accurately) pointed out, I lack the skills and practical experience to make any educated assuptions.
This is what I propose: treat the concept as nothing more than a thought experiment. If you were to attempt such a thing, how would you go about it? Or are we to agree that this is a fool's errand, and trying to fit for exploration and pvp is simply a matter of being poorly equipped for two tasks instead of properly equipped for one, as has been suggested.
To be honest, I had feared that might be the case. |
Nikolai Olerie
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.10.17 21:24:13 -
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I'd like to apologize ahead of time for any lapses in grammar or spelling, as I'm replying from my phone.
To begin with, I would like to thank you all for your sound advice, and reassure you (or disappoint any pirates among you) that I have no expectation of attempting this with my current skills and experience. Mostly, I'm curious as to whether the idea is even viable. I truly have no idea; as you have (accurately) pointed out, I lack the skills and practical experience to make any educated assuptions.
This is what I propose: treat the concept as nothing more than a thought experiment. If you were to attempt such a thing, how would you go about it? Or are we to agree that this is a fool's errand, and trying to fit for exploration and pvp is simply a matter of being poorly equipped for two tasks instead of properly equipped for one, as has been suggested.
To be honest, I had feared that might be the case. |
Paranoid Loyd
2283
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Posted - 2014.10.17 21:27:00 -
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Wow, nice to see a noob with a head on his shoulders, it is rare.
As mentioned it is advisable to go one way or the other. A jack of all trades will always be beat by a specialized hunter. One answer is with friends. You are the bait in your brick tanked Stratios and your friends are close by waiting for someone to take it. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Paranoid Loyd
2483
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Posted - 2014.10.17 21:27:58 -
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Wow, nice to see a noob with a head on his shoulders, it is rare.
As mentioned it is advisable to go one way or the other. A jack of all trades will always be beat by a specialized hunter. One answer is with friends. You are the bait in your brick tanked Stratios and your friends are close by waiting for someone to take it.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
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To mare
Advanced Technology
371
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Posted - 2014.10.18 04:31:00 -
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it's really hard (if not impossible) to fit covert cloak + probe launcher + data analizer on a stratios pvp fit, you have the slots but you really lack the cpu, even if you faction/deadspace fit you need CPU modules and they cripple your pvp abilities. so as the other said already pick one path, fit for pve and run or you fit for pvp but then it will be almost impossible to pve in that ship |
To mare
Advanced Technology
378
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Posted - 2014.10.18 04:31:01 -
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it's really hard (if not impossible) to fit covert cloak + probe launcher + data analizer on a stratios pvp fit, you have the slots but you really lack the cpu, even if you faction/deadspace fit you need CPU modules and they cripple your pvp abilities. so as the other said already pick one path, fit for pve and run or you fit for pvp but then it will be almost impossible to pve in that ship |
Balrog Valarauko
Occupational Hazzard The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2014.10.18 06:38:00 -
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You don't always have to settle with a pure PvE or PvP fit, or a gimpy mixture of both.
Remember there is such a thing as a Mobile Depot which will allow you to refit as the need arises. Carry the extra modules around with you. That way, you can do your PvE thang, but if you feel threatened or notice a hostile presence in the area you can attempt to refit to a more aggressive setup.
You can also sit in sites and pretend you're PvE'ing away, but fit a full gank setup and try to bait attackers.
Definitely heed the previous advice from others here as well, but otherwise your idea is certainly feasible.
If you're looking for specific fitting layouts, I suggest scouring the killboards out there and finding pilots who get lots of kills in them, then seeing if you can find one of their loss mails so you can see how they're fit. After you've seen how experienced pilots fit them, you can then take that knowledge and come up with your own setup that suits your needs and agrees with your skills. |
Balrog Valarauko
Occupational Hazzard The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.10.18 06:38:41 -
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You don't always have to settle with a pure PvE or PvP fit, or a gimpy mixture of both.
Remember there is such a thing as a Mobile Depot which will allow you to refit as the need arises. Carry the extra modules around with you. That way, you can do your PvE thang, but if you feel threatened or notice a hostile presence in the area you can attempt to refit to a more aggressive setup.
You can also sit in sites and pretend you're PvE'ing away, but fit a full gank setup and try to bait attackers.
Definitely heed the previous advice from others here as well, but otherwise your idea is certainly feasible.
If you're looking for specific fitting layouts, I suggest scouring the killboards out there and finding pilots who get lots of kills in them, then seeing if you can find one of their loss mails so you can see how they're fit. After you've seen how experienced pilots fit them, you can then take that knowledge and come up with your own setup that suits your needs and agrees with your skills. |
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Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
337
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Posted - 2014.10.18 08:02:00 -
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I use a Stratios in low sec (WH hacking sites) relatively often and the only reason I use a Stratios instead of a cov ops frigate is because I run combat sites in it as well as relic and data and look for Mordu's cruisers/frigates in belts. Speaking of which you forgot to add in a second -1 high for probe launcher.
I don't expect to fight anything in my PvE Stratios (even with almost 100 mil SP) and wipe any rats that point me off the field asap and get well off the warp in when taking acceleration gates. The upside is that for anything that is not anomalies any would-be ganker is going to have to probe you out. Do yourself a favor and add probes to your overview and scan for probes within close range of you while running sites with anyone in local. The more probes there are on shorter scans the less time you have to get moving. As soon as you see one combat or even a core from someone else kill or burn off from any rats that have you pointed double time and get out of there or at least get aligned. Whoever is probing you is trying not to spook you by spiking local until they have you. Stay cloaked until the coast is clear. Don't worry about trying to beat a PvP ship in a PvE ship, their entire fit is devoted to killing you, the same can not be said of you. If you want to fight the guy(S) coming for your ship then by all means do so, but fit for PvP before you do.
All that being said, if you happen across someone running relic and data sites in a cov ops (or T1) frigate there is a good chance you can pop him quickly while he's busy hacking cans if you're in a Stratios and any risk to you is very low, just watch local for revenge site invasion. I've done it a couple of times and they make for easy (possibly lucrative) prey if they are careless, don't be caught out being careless. Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification. |
Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
340
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Posted - 2014.10.18 08:02:18 -
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I use a Stratios in low sec (WH hacking sites) relatively often and the only reason I use a Stratios instead of a cov ops frigate is because I run combat sites in it as well as relic and data and look for Mordu's cruisers/frigates in belts. I tend to stay out for long periods of time across multiple regions using wormholes to move around and so I carry extra supplies and modules for refits as needed. Speaking of which you forgot to add in a second -1 high for probe launcher.
I don't expect to fight anything in my PvE Stratios (even with almost 100 mil SP) and wipe any rats that point me off the field asap and get well off the warp in when taking acceleration gates. The upside is that for anything that is not anomalies any would-be ganker is going to have to probe you out and often this means many solo or even small gangs will not be able to find you at all. Also know your acceleration gates. When doing a 3/10 that Hyperion on scan is no threat to you even if he can probe you because he can't activate the gate. Do yourself a favor and add probes to your overview and scan for probes within close range of you while running sites with anyone in local. The more probes there are on shorter scans the less time you have to get moving. As soon as you see one combat or even a core from someone else kill or burn off from any rats that have you pointed double time and get out of there or at least get aligned. Whoever is probing you is trying not to spook you by spiking local until they have you. Stay cloaked until the coast is clear. Don't worry about trying to beat a PvP ship in a PvE ship, their entire fit is devoted to killing you, the same can not be said of you. If you want to fight the guy(S) coming for your ship then by all means do so, but fit for PvP before you do.
All that being said, if you happen across someone running relic and data sites in a cov ops (or T1) frigate there is a good chance you can pop him quickly while he's busy hacking cans if you're in a Stratios and any risk to you is very low, just watch local for revenge site invasion. I've done it a couple of times and they make for easy (possibly lucrative) prey if they are careless, don't be caught out being careless.
Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
13
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Posted - 2014.10.20 16:27:00 -
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This thread is hugely depressing and is, to me, a clear symptom of why EVE sucks for new players.
OP comes in with an idea for creating content. Is it a terrible idea? Probably. But s/he has dreamed up something fun to do in the sandbox, and instead of getting advice on how to succeed, he is told the same stuff that I've seen in dozens of other posts. OP is told that s/he is not tall enough to ride the real content.
It boils down to:
- Don't fly ships you enjoy, even if you can afford to lose them
- You aren't allowed to go into nulsec until practicing in lowsec, and before that practicing in hisec
- If you don't have perfect skills don't bother flying anything or trying anything other than mind-numbing risk-free tasks
- Any activity that isn't fail-proof isn't worth pursuing, regardless of fun
- You can't enjoy the game until you have gotten bored of previous activities
I reject these premises not only as a matter on this topic, but because they are acidic to the new player experience. People join EVE because it's supposed to be this open sandbox without an endgame and with endless possibilities. Then as soon as they join the community they're stonewalled by people who believe newbies should be just as bored and bitter as they are.
OP you will probably fail but IMO you should put together an Imicus. Because it is a T1 frigate, people will be willing to drop on you in a relatively weak frigate gank ship. I guess if you have money to burn you could try the Astero instead.
Get your drone skills up to IV (V when you can), field a flight of lights, preferably something like acolytes. Tank the hell out of your ship, even have a terrible double/buffer. You won't have the nav skills to outpilot a competent pirate but you will catch the idiots by surprise. Grab a long point and get ready to unleash drones on whatever lands. Have your damage control going and attempt to kite whatever it is at about 15km while maintaining a point. Pray that your tank outlasts theirs.
Make sure you bring salvage drones to clean up their wrecks.
If you want any additional help, drop me a line in-game. You've just read another amazing post by WiNGSPANTT, the 4th Best Commentator on YouTube!GÇïFollow along with my exploration and stealth bomber adventures on my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/wingspantt |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2014.10.20 16:27:04 -
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This thread is hugely depressing and is, to me, a clear symptom of why EVE sucks for new players.
OP comes in with an idea for creating content. Is it a terrible idea? Probably. But s/he has dreamed up something fun to do in the sandbox, and instead of getting advice on how to succeed, he is told the same stuff that I've seen in dozens of other posts. OP is told that s/he is not tall enough to ride the real content.
It boils down to:
- Don't fly ships you enjoy, even if you can afford to lose them
- You aren't allowed to go into nulsec until practicing in lowsec, and before that practicing in hisec
- If you don't have perfect skills don't bother flying anything or trying anything other than mind-numbing risk-free tasks
- Any activity that isn't fail-proof isn't worth pursuing, regardless of fun
- You can't enjoy the game until you have gotten bored of previous activities
I reject these premises not only as a matter on this topic, but because they are acidic to the new player experience. People join EVE because it's supposed to be this open sandbox without an endgame and with endless possibilities. Then as soon as they join the community they're stonewalled by people who believe newbies should be just as bored and bitter as they are.
OP you will probably fail but IMO you should put together an Imicus. Because it is a T1 frigate, people will be willing to drop on you in a relatively weak frigate gank ship. I guess if you have money to burn you could try the Astero instead.
Get your drone skills up to IV (V when you can), field a flight of lights, preferably something like acolytes. Tank the hell out of your ship, even have a terrible double/buffer. You won't have the nav skills to outpilot a competent pirate but you will catch the idiots by surprise. Grab a long point and get ready to unleash drones on whatever lands. Have your damage control going and attempt to kite whatever it is at about 15km while maintaining a point. Pray that your tank outlasts theirs.
Make sure you bring salvage drones to clean up their wrecks.
If you want any additional help, drop me a line in-game.
You've just read another amazing post by WiNGSPANTT, the 4th Best Commentator on YouTube! GÇï Follow along with my exploration and stealth bomber adventures on my YouTube channel
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Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
340
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Posted - 2014.11.04 23:33:39 -
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I'm not trying to tell anyone not to do anything, I've seen tons of unconventional things work in my time in this game. The OP asked about the viability of his chosen strategy I've simply pointed out potential pitfalls and workarounds to avoid them if he wants to go ahead with his plan.
The biggest thing, which has nothing to do with player age at all, is PvE and PvP fits rarely meld well. The lost web on a Stratios due to your data analyzer can very easily make the difference between a won and lost fight. As I said I carry the pvp fit in cargo and will use it if required (or opportune) but I will always try to avoid a fight when the PvE fit is being used.
That being said if you do get caught in a PvE fit you absolutely should try to fight unless the situation warrants otherwise like you can make it to a gate (with reasonable assumption the other side is clear) or station, but caught out in a site you stand a much better chance of survival if you fight back. Pilots will rarely make mistakes if they are not under pressure of taking damage so don't let them just have free reign. If you didn't get out while fighting back you definitely weren't going to make it by rolling over.
Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.
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Iyokus Patrouette
No Vacancies
190
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Posted - 2014.11.04 23:51:06 -
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A cloaky proteus would be my choice of ship for this task, the only real gamble is that people would be aware a proteus even a cloaky proteus can still pack a punch ( <3 Blasters) and therefore may end up ignoring you or getting help before they come at you.
Whatever ship you decide to try this with a mobile depot, optional fitting choices and an educated guess of what you need to fit for each time can make any ship a potential bait ship.
---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
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Babylon Resurrection
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.11.07 04:45:04 -
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Get in a rookie ship with a probe launcher, cov op, and analyzer, go to null sec where most pods are killed, and make some friendship... if you get into a good corp, you'll learn 10x faster than you'll ever can by playing solo, your corp mates will help you... in the beginning... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2009
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Posted - 2014.11.07 15:46:00 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:Good advice. This, pretty much.
Because EVE is all about the meta-game. This means that:
. If you fly a T1 explo frigate with some teeth, you have a decent chance of being attacked by someone who is 1) alone and 2) expecting a pure explo fit. So you could actually kill him or at least have a good fight.
. If you fly anything more powerful, such as an Astero, any half-competent pirate will either bring friends or attack you with something that has a very high chance of blapping you easily. Because pirates know very well that Asteros - not to mention Stratios or T3s - can be quite tough, and will rarely if ever engage you without overwhelming odds in their favor.
It's the same as in solo PVP, you have the highest probability of getting good fights if you either a) fly something inconspicuous that can be easily underestimated or b) fly something that can handle 2-3 or more opponents at once (usually through speed and maneuverability).
Anyways, don't just take our word for it, fit something not too expensive and go try it yourself! Remember to convo the guy that will (probably) kill you, chances are he'll give you good advice as well.
Have fun!
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
702
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Posted - 2014.11.07 16:31:24 -
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Chance Ravinne wrote:I reject these premises not only as a matter on this topic, but because they are acidic to the new player experience. EvE is indeed a sandbox, and one that new players can enjoy right out of the box.
However, it's also a sandbox with a complex set of rules that is populated by kids bigger than new folks who know the rules better than them.
I don't see anything acidic in this thread, I see people suggesting that the OP take his time, learn the ropes gradually, and then jump into the deeper stuff. That's not acidic, that's prudent. The advice I gave above was based on my own experience in which my corp & I jumped in, time and time again, without really knowing what we were doing. Largely as a result of that, I am the only one of the dozen or so friends I started off playing with still playing. They all got frustrated and quit.
Jumping right into the deep end as you have (rather successfully mind you, I'm a fan of your videos) can be successful. Wildly so even. But in my experience, it has a much greater chance of frustrating new players and driving them off. So, I base my advice to new players on the balance and encourage them to be somewhat patient without flat-out telling them that they're stupid to try. Had the OP replied to my advice specifically indicating that he still wanted to fly the Stratios, I would have gladly told him how best to do it.
Don't mistake experience and prudence for acid.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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